Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

Doug Hellmann wrote: > There is only one way for a repository's contents to be considered > part of the big tent: It needs to be listed in the projects.yaml > file in the openstack/governance repository, associated with a > deliverable from a team that has been accepted as a big tent member. > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 9:24 AM, Sergey Lukjanov wrote: > Hi folks, > > First of all, let me say that it’s a marketing announcement and as all of > you know such announcements aren’t precise from a technical side. > Personally I’ve seen this paper first time on

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

Thanks Doug. I didn't pick up on your choice of Zane's point #1. If that is how the rest of the TC feels about it, that wfm. I will be submitting a resolution with your wording so clarity is reached and not lost in a mailing list thread in the future when this issue occurs again. Regards

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

Excerpts from Steven Dake (stdake)'s message of 2016-07-28 19:40:29 +: > > On 7/28/16, 12:30 PM, "Davanum Srinivas" wrote: > > >Steven, > > > >Please see response from Doug: > >http://markmail.org/message/yp7fpojnzufb5jki > > Dims, > > Are you implying Doug's position

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

Steve, This thread has degenerated. So my request is to use Doug's post as status quo. If there's disagreement then file for a resolution that suits them -- Dims On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 3:40 PM, Steven Dake (stdake) wrote: > > > On 7/28/16, 12:30 PM, "Davanum Srinivas"

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

If it ever becomes necessary for us to pass a resolution to deal with every disagreement, we might as well all go herd goats. This is a very straightforward situation, which has been blown out of all reasonable proportion through well-intentioned but misplaced concerns. Please, everyone, let's

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

On 7/28/16, 12:30 PM, "Davanum Srinivas" wrote: >Steven, > >Please see response from Doug: >http://markmail.org/message/yp7fpojnzufb5jki Dims, Are you implying Doug's position represents that of the TC? I have read Doug's position, and it completely ignores Zane's

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

Steven, Please see response from Doug: http://markmail.org/message/yp7fpojnzufb5jki If anyone disagrees with that position, please file a resolution. Let's stop this thread now please. Thanks, Dims On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Steven Dake (stdake) wrote: > Dims, > > I

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

Dims, I personally think its the responsibility of the TC to resolve this problem via a resolution. That’s why we elected you folks :) Regards -steve On 7/28/16, 11:09 AM, "Davanum Srinivas" wrote: >Zane, Steve, > >I'd say go for it! Can you please write up a proposal for

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2016-07-28 14:38:12 -0400: > On 28/07/16 14:20, Jay Pipes wrote: > > How would guidance from the TC about what it means for a repo to be > > "part of the OpenStack tent" add clarity for repos that are not trying > > to be part of the OpenStack tent? > > If

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

On 28/07/16 14:38, Davanum Srinivas wrote: Zane, I don't understand why you're directing this reply to me. I *just* made clear that I don't have any interest one way or the other. There's a Spec, Spec was discussed in Weekly Meeting. There's traffic on the ML. I personally was helpful to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 02:29:18PM -0400, Zane Bitter wrote: > On 28/07/16 12:54, Jay Pipes wrote: > >The TC has given guidance on this already: > > > >http://governance.openstack.org/resolutions/20160119-stackforge-retirement.html > > > > > >"In order to simplify software development lifecycle

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

On 07/28/2016 07:21 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > [...] > I think it is a reasonable expectation that teams would want to add > their new repositories to the governance list to have the rights > that go along with that, but I'm not aware of any requirement that > they do so. Reviewing that change

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

Hello, So as some of you might know, I write from a peculiar position. I'm both Kolla core and Intel. I don't like to see where this thread is going to. We are all one community, we are all OpenStack after all. I think what's hurting us here is this sense of competition. I would like to share my

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

Zane, There's a Spec, Spec was discussed in Weekly Meeting. There's traffic on the ML. I personally was helpful to some extent with the beginnning of kolla-kubernetes. So i don't think it's a lack of communication that's to blame. Also if you see the repos, there's not much there... In effect

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

On 28/07/16 14:20, Jay Pipes wrote: How would guidance from the TC about what it means for a repo to be "part of the OpenStack tent" add clarity for repos that are not trying to be part of the OpenStack tent? If it were clear what it means for a repo to be "part of the OpenStack tent" then it

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 2:20 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: > How would guidance from the TC about what it means for a repo to be "part > of the OpenStack tent" add clarity for repos that are not trying to be part > of the OpenStack tent? > > Just curious here... Related, ​Flavio

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

On 28/07/16 12:54, Jay Pipes wrote: The TC has given guidance on this already: http://governance.openstack.org/resolutions/20160119-stackforge-retirement.html "In order to simplify software development lifecycle transitions of Unofficial and Official OpenStack projects, all projects developed

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

How would guidance from the TC about what it means for a repo to be "part of the OpenStack tent" add clarity for repos that are not trying to be part of the OpenStack tent? Just curious here... -jay On 07/28/2016 02:01 PM, Steven Dake (stdake) wrote: Jay, I'll be frank. I have been

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

Zane, Steve, I'd say go for it! Can you please write up a proposal for the TC to consider? (https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/governance) Thanks, -- Dims On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Steven Dake (stdake) wrote: > Jay, > > I'll be frank. I have been

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

Jay, I'll be frank. I have been receiving numerous complaints which mirror Zane's full second understanding of what it means to be an OpenStack big tent project. These are not just Kolla developers. These are people from all over the community. They want something done about it. I agree with

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

On 7/28/2016 11:29 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Fox, Kevin M's message of 2016-07-27 22:56:56 +: I think that would be true, if the container api was opinionated. for example, trying to map only a subset of the openstack config options to docker environment variables. This would

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

I don't see what is unclear about any of it. What exactly is it that you wish Mirantis to state? Zane says there needs to be some guidance from the TC "about what it means for a repo to be part of the OpenStack tent". But the fuel-ccp repos aren't listed in the governance repo, for reasons

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2016-07-28 12:15:34 -0400: > On 28/07/16 08:48, Vladimir Kozhukalov wrote: > > Fuel-ccp repositories are public, everyone is welcome to participate. I > > don’t see where we violate “4 opens”. These repos are now experimental. > > At the moment the team is

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

Jay, That resolution doesn't clarify Zane's argument. Regards, -steve On 7/28/16, 9:54 AM, "Jay Pipes" wrote: >The TC has given guidance on this already: > >http://governance.openstack.org/resolutions/20160119-stackforge-retirement >.html > >"In order to simplify software

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

The TC has given guidance on this already: http://governance.openstack.org/resolutions/20160119-stackforge-retirement.html "In order to simplify software development lifecycle transitions of Unofficial and Official OpenStack projects, all projects developed within the OpenStack project

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

+1 From: Steven Dake (stdake) [std...@cisco.com] Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 9:33 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

Doug, Zane's analysis is correct. I agree with Zane's assessment that TC clarification can solve this situation. Regards -steve On 7/28/16, 9:15 AM, "Zane Bitter" wrote: >On 28/07/16 08:48, Vladimir Kozhukalov wrote: >> Fuel-ccp repositories are public, everyone is

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

Excerpts from Fox, Kevin M's message of 2016-07-27 22:56:56 +: > I think that would be true, if the container api was opinionated. for > example, trying to map only a subset of the openstack config options to > docker environment variables. This would make the containers specific to what >

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

:* Vladimir Kozhukalov [vkozhuka...@mirantis.com] *Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2016 5:48 AM *To:* OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) *Subject:* Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off >1. Alter the miss

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off >1. Alter the mission statement of fuel to match the reality being >published by the press and Mirantis's executive team >2. Include these non-experimental repos in the projects.yaml governance >Repository Frankly, I don’t understa

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

On 28/07/16 08:48, Vladimir Kozhukalov wrote: Fuel-ccp repositories are public, everyone is welcome to participate. I don’t see where we violate “4 opens”. These repos are now experimental. At the moment the team is working on building CI pipeline and developing functional tests that are to be

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

Thanks for the clarity Doug. Regards -steve On 7/28/16, 8:37 AM, "Doug Hellmann" wrote: >Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2016-07-28 16:43:35 +0200: >> On 28/07/16 04:45 +, Steven Dake (stdake) wrote: >> > >> > >> >On 7/27/16, 2:12 PM, "Jay Pipes"

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2016-07-28 16:43:35 +0200: > On 28/07/16 04:45 +, Steven Dake (stdake) wrote: > > > > > >On 7/27/16, 2:12 PM, "Jay Pipes" wrote: > > > >>On 07/27/2016 04:42 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: > >>> On Jul 27, 2016, at 2:42 PM, Fox, Kevin M

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

Hi folks, First of all, let me say that it’s a marketing announcement and as all of you know such announcements aren’t precise from a technical side. Personally I’ve seen this paper first time on TechCrunch. First of all, fuel-ccp-* are a set of OpenStack projects and everyone is welcome to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off 1. Alter the mission statement of fuel to match the reality being published by the press and Mirantis's executive team 2. Include these non-experimental repos in the projects.yaml

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 10:52 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: > On 28/07/16 15:48 +0300, Vladimir Kozhukalov wrote: > >> 1. Alter the mission statement of fuel to match the reality being >>> >> >> published by the press and Mirantis's executive team >>> >> >> 2. Include these

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

On 28/07/16 15:48 +0300, Vladimir Kozhukalov wrote: 1. Alter the mission statement of fuel to match the reality being published by the press and Mirantis's executive team 2. Include these non-experimental repos in the projects.yaml governance Repository Frankly, I don’t understand

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

On 28/07/16 04:45 +, Steven Dake (stdake) wrote: On 7/27/16, 2:12 PM, "Jay Pipes" wrote: On 07/27/2016 04:42 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: On Jul 27, 2016, at 2:42 PM, Fox, Kevin M wrote: Its not an "end user" facing thing, but it is an "operator"

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off >1. Alter the mission statement of fuel to match the reality being >published by the press and Mirantis's executive team >2. Include these non-experimental repos in the projects.yaml governance >Reposito

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

>1. Alter the mission statement of fuel to match the reality being >published by the press and Mirantis's executive team >2. Include these non-experimental repos in the projects.yaml governance >Repository Frankly, I don’t understand what part of the press release contradicts with Fuel

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

On 7/27/16, 2:12 PM, "Jay Pipes" wrote: >On 07/27/2016 04:42 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: >> On Jul 27, 2016, at 2:42 PM, Fox, Kevin M wrote: >> >>> Its not an "end user" facing thing, but it is an "operator" facing >>>thing. >> >> Well, the end user for Kolla

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off Excerpts from Fox, Kevin M's message of 2016-07-27 21:51:15 +: > Its a standard way of launching a given openstack service container with > specified config regardless if its

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

Ok. :) Thanks, Kevin From: Jay Pipes [jaypi...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 3:05 PM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off On 07

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

Excerpts from Fox, Kevin M's message of 2016-07-27 21:51:15 +: > Its a standard way of launching a given openstack service container with > specified config regardless if its backed with a redhat or ubuntu or source > based package set that the Operator can rely on having a standardized >

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

. Best, -jay From: Jay Pipes [jaypi...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 2:12 PM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off On 07/27/2016 04

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off On 07/27/2016 04:42 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: > On Jul 27, 2016, at 2:42 PM, Fox, Kevin M <kevin@pnnl.gov> wrote: > >> Its not an "end user" facing t

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

Excerpts from Ed Leafe's message of 2016-07-27 10:59:06 -0500: > On Jul 27, 2016, at 10:51 AM, Joshua Harlow wrote: > > >> Whether to have competing projects in the big tent was debated by the TC > >> at the time and my recollection is that we decided that was a good thing

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

On 07/27/2016 04:42 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: On Jul 27, 2016, at 2:42 PM, Fox, Kevin M wrote: Its not an "end user" facing thing, but it is an "operator" facing thing. Well, the end user for Kolla is an operator, no? I deploy kolla containers today on non kolla managed

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

On Jul 27, 2016, at 2:42 PM, Fox, Kevin M wrote: > Its not an "end user" facing thing, but it is an "operator" facing thing. Well, the end user for Kolla is an operator, no? > I deploy kolla containers today on non kolla managed systems in production, > and rely on that

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

consumable api to me. Thanks, Kevin From: Jay Pipes [jaypi...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 12:02 PM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

gards -steve > >> >> From: Jay Pipes [jaypi...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 10:36 AM >> To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org >> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is >&g

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 10:36 AM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off On 07/27/2016 10:10 AM, Chris Friesen wrote: On 07/27/2016 09:59 AM, Ed Leafe wrote: On Jul

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

, 2016 10:36 AM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off On 07/27/2016 10:10 AM, Chris Friesen wrote: > On 07/27/2016 09:59 AM, Ed Leafe wrote: >> On Jul 27, 2016, at 10:51 AM, Josh

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

On 07/27/2016 10:10 AM, Chris Friesen wrote: On 07/27/2016 09:59 AM, Ed Leafe wrote: On Jul 27, 2016, at 10:51 AM, Joshua Harlow wrote: Whether to have competing projects in the big tent was debated by the TC at the time and my recollection is that we decided that was

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

On Jul 27, 2016, at 12:10 PM, Chris Friesen wrote: > Maybe it boils down to the definition of "gratuitous" competition. Precisely, which is why we have humans and not computer algorithms to decide these things. -- Ed Leafe

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

On 07/27/2016 09:59 AM, Ed Leafe wrote: On Jul 27, 2016, at 10:51 AM, Joshua Harlow wrote: Whether to have competing projects in the big tent was debated by the TC at the time and my recollection is that we decided that was a good thing -- if someone wanted to develop a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

, 2016 5:30 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 4:44 PM, Fox, Kevin M <kevin@pnnl.gov<mailto:kevin@pnnl.gov>> w

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

On Jul 27, 2016, at 10:51 AM, Joshua Harlow wrote: >> Whether to have competing projects in the big tent was debated by the TC >> at the time and my recollection is that we decided that was a good thing >> -- if someone wanted to develop a Nova replacement, then let them

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

Michael Still wrote: On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 4:44 PM, Fox, Kevin M > wrote: [snip] The issue is, as I see it, a parallel activity to one of the that is currently accepted into the Big Tent, aka Containerized Deployment [snip] This seems

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

From: Michael Still [mi...@stillhq.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 5:30 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 4:44 PM,

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ednesday, July 27, 2016 at 5:30 AM To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) k

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 4:44 PM, Fox, Kevin M wrote: [snip] The issue is, as I see it, a parallel activity to one of the that is > currently accepted into the Big Tent, aka Containerized Deployment [snip] This seems to be the crux of the matter as best as I can tell. Is

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n worse? >Are the technical differences really that far apart to prevent it? > >Does that help to clarify the concern? > >Thanks, >Kevin > > > > > >____ >From: Jim Rollenhagen [j...@jimrollenhagen.com] >Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 3:28 P

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

] Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 3:28 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 09:42:10PM +, Steven Dake (stdake) wrote: > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 09:42:10PM +, Steven Dake (stdake) wrote: > > > On 7/26/16, 2:13 PM, "Jim Rollenhagen" wrote: > > >On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 08:36:01PM +, Steven Dake (stdake) wrote: > >> Dims, > >> > >> The project-config addition was debated by Andreas

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

On 7/26/16, 2:13 PM, "Jim Rollenhagen" wrote: >On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 08:36:01PM +, Steven Dake (stdake) wrote: >> Dims, >> >> The project-config addition was debated by Andreas before this >>partnership >> in this press release was announced and the full intent

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

+1 From: Steven Dake (stdake) [std...@cisco.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 12:47 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 08:36:01PM +, Steven Dake (stdake) wrote: > Dims, > > The project-config addition was debated by Andreas before this partnership > in this press release was announced and the full intent of the project was > understood. The argument I see used in the review is that

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

Dims, The project-config addition was debated by Andreas before this partnership in this press release was announced and the full intent of the project was understood. The argument I see used in the review is that since fuel-ccp not part of Newton, it doesn't need to be in the projects.yaml

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

Steven, fyi, This was debated in the project-config review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/335584/ Thanks, Dims On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Steven Dake (stdake) wrote: > Dims, > > Given the strong language around partnership between Intel, Mirantis, and > Google in

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

Dims, Given the strong language around partnership between Intel, Mirantis, and Google in that press release, and the activity in the review queue (2 pages of outstanding reviews) it seems clear to me that the intent is for this part of Fuel to participate in the big tent. The right thing to do