Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Spec freeze exception] Instance tasks

2014-07-22 Thread Michael Still
Ok, this one has two cores, so the exception is approved. The
exception is in the form of another week to get the spec merged, so
quick iterations are the key.

Cheers,
Michael

On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Kenichi Oomichi
oomi...@mxs.nes.nec.co.jp wrote:

 -Original Message-
 From: John Garbutt [mailto:j...@johngarbutt.com]
 Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 6:54 PM
 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
 Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Spec freeze exception] Instance tasks

 On 18 July 2014 14:28, Andrew Laski andrew.la...@rackspace.com wrote:
  Hello everybody,
 
  I would like to request a spec proposal extension for instance tasks,
  described in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/86938/ .  This has been a 
  long
  discussed and awaited feature with a lot of support from the community.
 
  This feature has been intertwined with the fate of the V3 API, which is
  still being worked out, and may not be completed in Juno.  This means that 
  I
  lack confidence that the tasks API work can be fully completed in Juno as
  well.  But there is more to the tasks work than just the API, and I would
  like to get some of that groundwork done. In fact, one of the challenges
  with the task work is how to handle an upgrade situation with an API that
  exposes tasks and computes which are not task aware and therefore don't
  update them properly. If it's acceptable I would propose stripping the API
  portion of the spec for now and focus on getting Juno computes to be task
  aware so that tasks exposed in the Kilo API would be handled properly with
  Juno computes.  This of course assumes that we're reasonably confident we
  want to add tasks to the API in Kilo.

 I see better task handling as a key to better organising the error
 handling inside Nova, and improving stability.

 As such I am happy to sponsor this spec.

 I also am glad to support this spec.
 This feature will be nice to investigate gate failures in our future.


 Thanks
 Ken'ichi Ohmichi


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Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Spec freeze exception] Instance tasks

2014-07-21 Thread John Garbutt
On 18 July 2014 14:28, Andrew Laski andrew.la...@rackspace.com wrote:
 Hello everybody,

 I would like to request a spec proposal extension for instance tasks,
 described in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/86938/ .  This has been a long
 discussed and awaited feature with a lot of support from the community.

 This feature has been intertwined with the fate of the V3 API, which is
 still being worked out, and may not be completed in Juno.  This means that I
 lack confidence that the tasks API work can be fully completed in Juno as
 well.  But there is more to the tasks work than just the API, and I would
 like to get some of that groundwork done. In fact, one of the challenges
 with the task work is how to handle an upgrade situation with an API that
 exposes tasks and computes which are not task aware and therefore don't
 update them properly. If it's acceptable I would propose stripping the API
 portion of the spec for now and focus on getting Juno computes to be task
 aware so that tasks exposed in the Kilo API would be handled properly with
 Juno computes.  This of course assumes that we're reasonably confident we
 want to add tasks to the API in Kilo.

I see better task handling as a key to better organising the error
handling inside Nova, and improving stability.

As such I am happy to sponsor this spec.

Thanks,
John

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Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Spec freeze exception] Instance tasks

2014-07-21 Thread Kenichi Oomichi

 -Original Message-
 From: John Garbutt [mailto:j...@johngarbutt.com]
 Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 6:54 PM
 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
 Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Spec freeze exception] Instance tasks
 
 On 18 July 2014 14:28, Andrew Laski andrew.la...@rackspace.com wrote:
  Hello everybody,
 
  I would like to request a spec proposal extension for instance tasks,
  described in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/86938/ .  This has been a long
  discussed and awaited feature with a lot of support from the community.
 
  This feature has been intertwined with the fate of the V3 API, which is
  still being worked out, and may not be completed in Juno.  This means that I
  lack confidence that the tasks API work can be fully completed in Juno as
  well.  But there is more to the tasks work than just the API, and I would
  like to get some of that groundwork done. In fact, one of the challenges
  with the task work is how to handle an upgrade situation with an API that
  exposes tasks and computes which are not task aware and therefore don't
  update them properly. If it's acceptable I would propose stripping the API
  portion of the spec for now and focus on getting Juno computes to be task
  aware so that tasks exposed in the Kilo API would be handled properly with
  Juno computes.  This of course assumes that we're reasonably confident we
  want to add tasks to the API in Kilo.
 
 I see better task handling as a key to better organising the error
 handling inside Nova, and improving stability.
 
 As such I am happy to sponsor this spec.

I also am glad to support this spec.
This feature will be nice to investigate gate failures in our future.


Thanks
Ken'ichi Ohmichi


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[openstack-dev] [Nova] [Spec freeze exception] Instance tasks

2014-07-18 Thread Andrew Laski

Hello everybody,

I would like to request a spec proposal extension for instance tasks, 
described in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/86938/ .  This has been a 
long discussed and awaited feature with a lot of support from the community.


This feature has been intertwined with the fate of the V3 API, which is 
still being worked out, and may not be completed in Juno.  This means 
that I lack confidence that the tasks API work can be fully completed in 
Juno as well.  But there is more to the tasks work than just the API, 
and I would like to get some of that groundwork done. In fact, one of 
the challenges with the task work is how to handle an upgrade situation 
with an API that exposes tasks and computes which are not task aware and 
therefore don't update them properly. If it's acceptable I would propose 
stripping the API portion of the spec for now and focus on getting Juno 
computes to be task aware so that tasks exposed in the Kilo API would be 
handled properly with Juno computes.  This of course assumes that we're 
reasonably confident we want to add tasks to the API in Kilo.


Thanks,
Andrew

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