Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Updates to Juno blueprint review process

2014-03-25 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 03/25/2014 01:30 AM, Russell Bryant wrote: > I really don't see why this is so bad. We're using a tool specifically > designed for reviewing things that is already working *really* well, right, for code reviews. > not just for code, but also for TC governance documents. I disagree: that's a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Updates to Juno blueprint review process

2014-03-25 Thread Thierry Carrez
Russell Bryant wrote: > On 03/24/2014 11:42 AM, Stefano Maffulli wrote: >> At this point I'd like to get a fair assessment of storyboard's status >> and timeline: it's clear that Launchpad blueprints need to be abandoned >> lightspeed fast and I (and others) have been sold the idea that >> Storyboa

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Updates to Juno blueprint review process

2014-03-25 Thread Russell Bryant
On 03/25/2014 12:01 AM, Stefano Maffulli wrote: > On 03/24/2014 09:20 AM, Russell Bryant wrote: >> Another critical point of clarification ... we are *not* moving out of >> blueprints at all. We're still using them for tracking, just as before. >> We are *adding* the use of gerrit for reviewing t

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Updates to Juno blueprint review process

2014-03-24 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 03/24/2014 09:20 AM, Russell Bryant wrote: > Another critical point of clarification ... we are *not* moving out of > blueprints at all. We're still using them for tracking, just as before. > We are *adding* the use of gerrit for reviewing the design. That changes things, thank you for the cl

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Updates to Juno blueprint review process

2014-03-24 Thread Joe Gordon
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Steve Gordon wrote: > - Original Message - > > We recently discussed the idea of using gerrit to review blueprint > > specifications [1]. There was a lot of support for the idea so we have > > proceeded with putting this together before the start of the J

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Updates to Juno blueprint review process

2014-03-24 Thread Sean Dague
On 03/24/2014 01:40 PM, Michael Krotscheck wrote: > On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 3:14 AM, Sean Dague > wrote: > > Storyboard remains vaporware. I will be enormously happy when it is not. > > > You could, oh, I dunno, maybe contribute to the codebase. I am _certain_ > that

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Updates to Juno blueprint review process

2014-03-24 Thread Sean Dague
On 03/24/2014 12:20 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: > On 03/24/2014 11:42 AM, Stefano Maffulli wrote: >> On 03/22/2014 03:14 AM, Sean Dague wrote: >>> Honestly, I largely disagree. This is applying some process where there >>> clearly wasn't any before. >> >> We have a different perception evidently. I'm

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Updates to Juno blueprint review process

2014-03-24 Thread Michael Krotscheck
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 3:14 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > > Storyboard remains vaporware. I will be enormously happy when it is not. > You could, oh, I dunno, maybe contribute to the codebase. I am _certain_ that it would make more people happy than calling it vaporware on a public list. Michael

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Updates to Juno blueprint review process

2014-03-24 Thread Russell Bryant
On 03/24/2014 11:42 AM, Stefano Maffulli wrote: > On 03/22/2014 03:14 AM, Sean Dague wrote: >> Honestly, I largely disagree. This is applying some process where there >> clearly wasn't any before. > > We have a different perception evidently. I'm assuming you're > exaggerating for the sake of clar

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Updates to Juno blueprint review process

2014-03-24 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 03/22/2014 03:14 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > Honestly, I largely disagree. This is applying some process where there > clearly wasn't any before. We have a different perception evidently. I'm assuming you're exaggerating for the sake of clarity because assuming there was no process before means tha

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Updates to Juno blueprint review process

2014-03-24 Thread Thierry Carrez
Russell Bryant wrote: > On 03/21/2014 02:55 PM, Stefano Maffulli wrote: >> While I'm here, and for the records, I think that creating a new >> workflow 'temporarily' only until we have Storyboard usable, is a *huge* >> mistake. It seems to me that you're ignoring or at least underestimating >> the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Updates to Juno blueprint review process

2014-03-22 Thread Sean Dague
On 03/21/2014 02:55 PM, Stefano Maffulli wrote: > On 03/20/2014 03:50 PM, Jay Lau wrote: >> It is better that we can have some diagram workflow just like >> Gerrit_Workflow to >> show the new process. > > Indeed, I think it would help. > > While I

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Updates to Juno blueprint review process

2014-03-21 Thread Steve Gordon
- Original Message - > We recently discussed the idea of using gerrit to review blueprint > specifications [1]. There was a lot of support for the idea so we have > proceeded with putting this together before the start of the Juno > development cycle. > > We now have a new project set up,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Updates to Juno blueprint review process

2014-03-21 Thread Matt Van Winkle
lopment Mailing List (not for usage questions)" >mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>> >Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Updates to Juno blueprint review process >This is the part I'm keenly interested in Russell. Once you have some feedback >on things here, >this model of usi

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Updates to Juno blueprint review process

2014-03-21 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: > On 03/21/2014 03:16 PM, Tim Bell wrote: > > > > I am a strong advocate of the Blueprint-on-Blueprints process we > discussed in the operator mini-summit so that experienced cloud > administrators can give input before lots of code is writte

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Updates to Juno blueprint review process

2014-03-21 Thread Russell Bryant
On 03/21/2014 03:16 PM, Tim Bell wrote: > > I am a strong advocate of the Blueprint-on-Blueprints process we discussed in > the operator mini-summit so that experienced cloud administrators can give > input before lots of code is written > (https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/operators-feedback-ma

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Updates to Juno blueprint review process

2014-03-21 Thread Joe Gordon
luePrint Review Process (gerrit?) 2. 3. https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova-specs,n,z Tim > > > -Original Message- > > From: Stefano Maffulli [mailto:stef...@openstack.org] > > Sent: 21 March 2014 19:55 > > To: openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Updates to Juno blueprint review process

2014-03-21 Thread Tim Bell
o:stef...@openstack.org] > Sent: 21 March 2014 19:55 > To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Updates to Juno blueprint review process > > On 03/20/2014 03:50 PM, Jay Lau wrote: > > It is better that we can have some diagram workflow ju

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Updates to Juno blueprint review process

2014-03-21 Thread Russell Bryant
On 03/21/2014 02:55 PM, Stefano Maffulli wrote: > On 03/20/2014 03:50 PM, Jay Lau wrote: >> It is better that we can have some diagram workflow just like >> Gerrit_Workflow to >> show the new process. > > Indeed, I think it would help. > > While I

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Updates to Juno blueprint review process

2014-03-21 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 03/20/2014 03:50 PM, Jay Lau wrote: > It is better that we can have some diagram workflow just like > Gerrit_Workflow to > show the new process. Indeed, I think it would help. While I'm here, and for the records, I think that creating a new wor

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Updates to Juno blueprint review process

2014-03-20 Thread Jay Lau
It is better that we can have some diagram workflow just like Gerrit_Workflow to show the new process. Thanks! 2014-03-21 4:23 GMT+08:00 Dolph Mathews : > > On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Russell Bryant wrote: > >> We recently discussed the i

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Updates to Juno blueprint review process

2014-03-20 Thread Dolph Mathews
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Russell Bryant wrote: > We recently discussed the idea of using gerrit to review blueprint > specifications [1]. There was a lot of support for the idea so we have > proceeded with putting this together before the start of the Juno > development cycle. > > We no

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Updates to Juno blueprint review process

2014-03-20 Thread Solly Ross
l Bryant" To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 11:49:37 AM Subject: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Updates to Juno blueprint review process We recently discussed the idea of using gerrit to review blueprint specifications [1]. There was a lot of support

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Updates to Juno blueprint review process

2014-03-20 Thread Russell Bryant
We recently discussed the idea of using gerrit to review blueprint specifications [1]. There was a lot of support for the idea so we have proceeded with putting this together before the start of the Juno development cycle. We now have a new project set up, openstack/nova-specs. You submit change