Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Dynamic scheduling

2014-05-12 Thread Jay Lau
ks! 2014-04-12 1:00 GMT+08:00 Tim Bell : > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Andrew Laski [mailto:andrew.la...@rackspace.com] > > Sent: 11 April 2014 16:38 > > To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev]

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Dynamic scheduling

2014-04-11 Thread Tim Bell
> -Original Message- > From: Andrew Laski [mailto:andrew.la...@rackspace.com] > Sent: 11 April 2014 16:38 > To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Dynamic scheduling > > On 04/10/14 at 11:33pm, Oleg Gel

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Dynamic scheduling

2014-04-11 Thread Henrique Truta
Is there anyone currently working on Neat/Gantt projects? I'd like to contribute to them, as well. 2014-04-11 11:37 GMT-03:00 Andrew Laski : > On 04/10/14 at 11:33pm, Oleg Gelbukh wrote: > >> Andrew, >> >> Thank you for clarification! >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Andrew Laski > >wro

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Dynamic scheduling

2014-04-11 Thread Andrew Laski
On 04/10/14 at 11:33pm, Oleg Gelbukh wrote: Andrew, Thank you for clarification! On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Andrew Laski wrote: The scheduler as it currently exists is a placement engine. There is sufficient complexity in the scheduler with just that responsibility so I would prefer

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Dynamic scheduling

2014-04-10 Thread Jay Lau
2014-04-11 0:22 GMT+08:00 Sylvain Bauza : > > > > 2014-04-10 16:16 GMT+02:00 Jay Lau : > > >> >> >> 2014-04-10 0:57 GMT+08:00 Susanne Balle : >> >> Ditto. I am interested in contributing as well. >>> >>> Does Gant work with Devstack? I am assuming the link will give me >>> directions on how to tes

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Dynamic scheduling

2014-04-10 Thread Jay Lau
2014-04-11 3:54 GMT+08:00 Steve Gordon : > - Original Message - > > Is it a same thing like openstack-neat project? > > > > http://openstack-neat.org/ > > > > I am curious about why Neat was not accepted previously. > > > > -Hao > > Did anyone ever try to submit it? Looks useful though. >

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Dynamic scheduling

2014-04-10 Thread Steve Gordon
- Original Message - > - Original Message - > > Is it a same thing like openstack-neat project? > > > > http://openstack-neat.org/ > > > > I am curious about why Neat was not accepted previously. > > > > -Hao > > Did anyone ever try to submit it? Looks useful though. > > -Steve

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Dynamic scheduling

2014-04-10 Thread Steve Gordon
- Original Message - > Is it a same thing like openstack-neat project? > > http://openstack-neat.org/ > > I am curious about why Neat was not accepted previously. > > -Hao Did anyone ever try to submit it? Looks useful though. -Steve ___ Ope

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Dynamic scheduling

2014-04-10 Thread Oleg Gelbukh
Andrew, Thank you for clarification! On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Andrew Laski wrote: > > > The scheduler as it currently exists is a placement engine. There is > sufficient complexity in the scheduler with just that responsibility so I > would prefer to see anything that's making runtime d

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Dynamic scheduling

2014-04-10 Thread Sylvain Bauza
2014-04-10 16:16 GMT+02:00 Jay Lau : > > > > 2014-04-10 0:57 GMT+08:00 Susanne Balle : > > Ditto. I am interested in contributing as well. >> >> Does Gant work with Devstack? I am assuming the link will give me >> directions on how to test it and contribute to the project. >> > You can refer to >

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Dynamic scheduling

2014-04-10 Thread Jay Lau
S open source? > > > > Thanks. > > -- > > Shane > > *From:* Susanne Balle [mailto:sleipnir...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, April 10, 2014 12:57 AM > *To:* OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > *Subject:* Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Dynamic scheduling

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Dynamic scheduling

2014-04-10 Thread Jay Lau
2014-04-10 0:57 GMT+08:00 Susanne Balle : > Ditto. I am interested in contributing as well. > > Does Gant work with Devstack? I am assuming the link will give me > directions on how to test it and contribute to the project. > You can refer to http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Dynamic scheduling

2014-04-10 Thread Andrew Laski
On 04/10/14 at 11:48am, Oleg Gelbukh wrote: Hello, Jay, As a fork of nova-scheduler, Gantt most likely will handle initial placement. However, even nova-scheduler now supports some runtime operations (for example, scheduling of evacuated/migrated instances). Please note that the operations you

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Dynamic scheduling

2014-04-10 Thread zhangyu (AI)
questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Dynamic scheduling Is the [1] mentioned below open source? Interested in it :) Also, my own opinion is nova is a cloud solution that aim to control virtual / real machine lifecycle management the dynamic scheduling mechanism is something like

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Dynamic scheduling

2014-04-10 Thread Chen CH Ji
Stack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" , Date: 04/09/2014 11:45 PM Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Dynamic scheduling @Oleg, Till now, I'm not sure the target of Gantt, is it for initial placement policy or run time policy or both, can y

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Dynamic scheduling

2014-04-10 Thread Luohao (brian)
) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Dynamic scheduling Hello, Jay, As a fork of nova-scheduler, Gantt most likely will handle initial placement. However, even nova-scheduler now supports some runtime operations (for example, scheduling of evacuated/migrated instances). Given the runtime scheduling

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Dynamic scheduling

2014-04-10 Thread Oleg Gelbukh
Hello, Jay, As a fork of nova-scheduler, Gantt most likely will handle initial placement. However, even nova-scheduler now supports some runtime operations (for example, scheduling of evacuated/migrated instances). Given the runtime scheduling arises in this list regularly, I guess such features

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Dynamic scheduling

2014-04-10 Thread Wang, Shane
ource? Thanks. -- Shane From: Susanne Balle [mailto:sleipnir...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 12:57 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Dynamic scheduling Ditto. I am interested in contributing as well. Does Gant work

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Dynamic scheduling

2014-04-09 Thread Sylvain Bauza
2014-04-09 18:57 GMT+02:00 Susanne Balle : > > Does Gant work with Devstack? I am assuming the link will give me > directions on how to test it and contribute to the project. > > https://github.com/openstack/gantt/blob/master/README.rst#disclaimer Please consider Gantt repository as a no-op repo,

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Dynamic scheduling

2014-04-09 Thread Susanne Balle
Ditto. I am interested in contributing as well. Does Gant work with Devstack? I am assuming the link will give me directions on how to test it and contribute to the project. Susanne On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Henrique Truta < henriquecostatr...@gmail.com> wrote: > @Oleg, @Sylvain, @Leand

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Dynamic scheduling

2014-04-09 Thread Henrique Truta
@Oleg, @Sylvain, @Leandro, Thanls. I'll check the Gantt project and the blueprint 2014-04-09 12:59 GMT-03:00 Sylvain Bauza : > > > > 2014-04-09 17:47 GMT+02:00 Jay Lau : > > @Oleg, Till now, I'm not sure the target of Gantt, is it for initial >> placement policy or run time policy or both, can y

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Dynamic scheduling

2014-04-09 Thread Sylvain Bauza
2014-04-09 17:47 GMT+02:00 Jay Lau : > @Oleg, Till now, I'm not sure the target of Gantt, is it for initial > placement policy or run time policy or both, can you help clarify? > > I don't want to talk on behalf of Oleg, but Gantt is targeted to be the forklift of the current Nova scheduler. So, a

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Dynamic scheduling

2014-04-09 Thread Jay Lau
@Oleg, Till now, I'm not sure the target of Gantt, is it for initial placement policy or run time policy or both, can you help clarify? @Henrique, not sure if you know IBM PRS (Platform Resource Scheduler) [1], we have finished the "dynamic scheduler" in our Icehouse version (PRS 2.2), it has exac

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Dynamic scheduling

2014-04-09 Thread Costantino, Leandro I
Hi Enrique, This bp [1] may cover the uses cases you are proposing. ( maybe not using ceilometer ) Also, you can take a look at openstack-neat [2] ( outside project ), that try to achieve something similar, but seems to be outdated. There's another initiate to have an external scheduler (GANTT

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Dynamic scheduling

2014-04-09 Thread Oleg Gelbukh
Henrique, You should check out Gantt project [1], it could be exactly the place to implement such features. It is a generic cross-project Scheduler as a Service forked from Nova recently. [1] https://github.com/openstack/gantt -- Best regards, Oleg Gelbukh Mirantis Labs On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at

[openstack-dev] [nova] Dynamic scheduling

2014-04-09 Thread Henrique Truta
Hello, everyone! I am currently a graduate student and member of a group of contributors to OpenStack. We believe that a dynamic scheduler could improve the efficiency of an OpenStack cloud, either by rebalancing nodes to maximize performance or to minimize the number of active hosts, in order to