Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] [barbican] [tc] key store in base services

2018-06-21 Thread Zane Bitter
On 20/06/18 17:59, Adam Harwell wrote: Looks like I missed this so I'm late to the party, but: Ade is technically correct, Octavia doesn't explicitly depend on Barbican, as we do support castellan generically. *HOWEVER*: we don't just store and retrieve our own secrets -- we rely on loading

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] [barbican] [tc] key store in base services

2018-06-21 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2018-06-20 16:59:30 -0500 (-0500), Adam Harwell wrote: > Looks like I missed this so I'm late to the party, but: > > Ade is technically correct, Octavia doesn't explicitly depend on Barbican, > as we do support castellan generically. > > *HOWEVER*: we don't just store and retrieve our own

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] [barbican] [tc] key store in base services

2018-06-20 Thread Adam Harwell
Looks like I missed this so I'm late to the party, but: Ade is technically correct, Octavia doesn't explicitly depend on Barbican, as we do support castellan generically. *HOWEVER*: we don't just store and retrieve our own secrets -- we rely on loading up user created secrets. This means that

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] [barbican] [tc] key store in base services

2018-06-20 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2018-06-06 01:29:49 + (+), Jeremy Stanley wrote: [...] > Seeing no further objections, I give you > https://review.openstack.org/572656 for the next step. That change merged just a few minutes ago, and

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] [barbican] [tc] key store in base services

2018-06-05 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2018-05-31 13:00:47 + (+), Jeremy Stanley wrote: > On 2018-05-31 10:33:51 +0200 (+0200), Thierry Carrez wrote: > > Ade Lee wrote: > > > [...] > > > So it seems that the two blockers above have been resolved. So is it > > > time to ad a castellan compatible secret store to the base

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] [barbican] [tc] key store in base services

2018-05-31 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2018-05-31 10:33:51 +0200 (+0200), Thierry Carrez wrote: > Ade Lee wrote: > > [...] > > So it seems that the two blockers above have been resolved. So is it > > time to ad a castellan compatible secret store to the base services? > > It's definitely time to start a discussion about it, at

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] [barbican] [tc] key store in base services

2018-05-31 Thread Thierry Carrez
Ade Lee wrote: [...] So it seems that the two blockers above have been resolved. So is it time to ad a castellan compatible secret store to the base services? It's definitely time to start a discussion about it, at least :) Would you be interested in starting a ML thread about it ? If not,

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] [barbican] [tc] key store in base services

2018-05-30 Thread Ade Lee
On Thu, 2018-05-17 at 10:33 +0200, Cédric Jeanneret wrote: > > On 05/17/2018 10:18 AM, Bogdan Dobrelya wrote: > > On 5/17/18 9:58 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > > > Jeremy Stanley wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > As a community, we're likely to continue to make imbalanced > > > > trade-offs against

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] [barbican] [tc] key store in base services

2018-05-30 Thread Ade Lee
On Thu, 2018-05-17 at 09:58 +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Jeremy Stanley wrote: > > [...] > > As a community, we're likely to continue to make imbalanced > > trade-offs against relevant security features if we don't move > > forward and declare that some sort of standardized key storage > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] [barbican] [tc] key store in base services

2018-05-17 Thread Cédric Jeanneret
On 05/17/2018 10:18 AM, Bogdan Dobrelya wrote: > On 5/17/18 9:58 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: >> Jeremy Stanley wrote: >>> [...] >>> As a community, we're likely to continue to make imbalanced >>> trade-offs against relevant security features if we don't move >>> forward and declare that some sort

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] [barbican] [tc] key store in base services

2018-05-17 Thread Bogdan Dobrelya
On 5/17/18 9:58 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Jeremy Stanley wrote: [...] As a community, we're likely to continue to make imbalanced trade-offs against relevant security features if we don't move forward and declare that some sort of standardized key storage solution is a fundamental component on

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] [barbican] [tc] key store in base services

2018-05-17 Thread Thierry Carrez
Jeremy Stanley wrote: [...] As a community, we're likely to continue to make imbalanced trade-offs against relevant security features if we don't move forward and declare that some sort of standardized key storage solution is a fundamental component on which OpenStack services can rely. Being

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] [barbican] [tc] key store in base services (was: Encrypted swift volumes by default in the undercloud)

2018-05-16 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2018-05-16 17:42:09 + (+), Jeremy Stanley wrote: [...] > Unfortunately, I'm unable to find any follow-up summary on the > mailing list from the aforementioned session, but recollection from > those who were present (I had a schedule conflict at that time) was > that a

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] [barbican] [tc] key store in base services (was: Encrypted swift volumes by default in the undercloud)

2018-05-16 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Jeremy Stanley's message of 2018-05-16 17:42:09 +: > On 2018-05-16 13:16:09 +0200 (+0200), Dmitry Tantsur wrote: > > On 05/15/2018 09:19 PM, Juan Antonio Osorio wrote: > > > As part of the work from the Security Squad, we added the > > > ability for the containerized undercloud

[openstack-dev] [tripleo] [barbican] [tc] key store in base services (was: Encrypted swift volumes by default in the undercloud)

2018-05-16 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2018-05-16 13:16:09 +0200 (+0200), Dmitry Tantsur wrote: > On 05/15/2018 09:19 PM, Juan Antonio Osorio wrote: > > As part of the work from the Security Squad, we added the > > ability for the containerized undercloud to encrypt the > > overcloud plans. This is done by enabling Swift's encrypted