Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] "recheck no bug" and comment

2014-07-25 Thread Jay Bryant
Sean,

Thanks for making this change!

Jay
On Jul 25, 2014 5:41 AM, "Sean Dague"  wrote:

> On 07/25/2014 01:18 AM, Ian Wienand wrote:
> > On 07/16/2014 11:15 PM, Alexis Lee wrote:
> >> What do you think about allowing some text after the words "recheck no
> >> bug"?
> >
> > I think this is a good idea; I am often away from a change for a bit,
> > something happens in-between and Jenkins fails it, but chasing it down
> > days later is fairly pointless given how fast things move.
> >
> > It would be nice if I could indicate "I thought about this".  In fact,
> > there might be an argument for *requiring* a reason
> >
> > I proposed [1] to allow this
> >
> > -i
> >
> > [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109492/
>
> At the QA / Infra meetup we actually talked about the recheck syntax,
> and to change the way elastic recheck is interacting with the user.
>
>
> https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack-infra/elastic-recheck+branch:master+topic:erchanges,n,z
>
> and
>
>
> https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack-infra/config+branch:master+topic:er,n,z
>
> Are the result of that. Basically going forward we'll just support
>
> 'recheck.*'
>
> If you want to provide us with info after the recheck, great, we can
> mine it later. However we aren't using that a ton at this point, so
> we'll make it easier on people.
>
> -Sean
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Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] "recheck no bug" and comment

2014-07-25 Thread Jay Pipes

On 07/25/2014 08:27 AM, Sean Dague wrote:

On 07/25/2014 07:48 AM, Bob Ball wrote:

-Original Message-
From: Sean Dague [mailto:s...@dague.net]
Sent: 25 July 2014 12:36
To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] "recheck no bug" and comment


Would that still allow us to only trigger 3rd party CI ? eg if we do
'recheck xenserver' I don't want to trigger the main CI, only the Xen
CI.


No, the 3rd party folks went off and created a grammar without
discussing it with the infra team (also against specific objections to
doing so). Such it is.


When setting up the XenServer CI the recheck syntax I added was requested by 
reviewers and I certainly wasn't aware of these specific objections.

Do you have a proposal for the grammar you'd like 3rd party CIs to follow?


Consider: ^(recheck|check|reverify) off limits namespace.

If you want a namespace for commands specific to a 3rd party CI, that
should start with the 3rd party CI name.

^3rd party CI name: command

It should be the official short name in the system so there is no future
collisions issue.


Well, I apologize if I furthered the idea that 3rd party CI systems 
should implement a "recheck $VENDOR" trigger. Sorry, I never knew they 
were supposed to be off limits :(


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Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] "recheck no bug" and comment

2014-07-25 Thread Sean Dague
On 07/25/2014 07:48 AM, Bob Ball wrote:
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Sean Dague [mailto:s...@dague.net]
>> Sent: 25 July 2014 12:36
>> To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] "recheck no bug" and comment
>>
>>> Would that still allow us to only trigger 3rd party CI ? eg if we do
>>> 'recheck xenserver' I don't want to trigger the main CI, only the Xen
>>> CI.
>>
>> No, the 3rd party folks went off and created a grammar without
>> discussing it with the infra team (also against specific objections to
>> doing so). Such it is.
> 
> When setting up the XenServer CI the recheck syntax I added was requested by 
> reviewers and I certainly wasn't aware of these specific objections.
> 
> Do you have a proposal for the grammar you'd like 3rd party CIs to follow?

Consider: ^(recheck|check|reverify) off limits namespace.

If you want a namespace for commands specific to a 3rd party CI, that
should start with the 3rd party CI name.

^3rd party CI name: command

It should be the official short name in the system so there is no future
collisions issue.

-Sean

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Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] "recheck no bug" and comment

2014-07-25 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 07:35:52AM -0400, Sean Dague wrote:
> On 07/25/2014 07:17 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 07:09:56AM -0400, Sean Dague wrote:
> >> On 07/25/2014 06:53 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> >>> On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 06:38:29AM -0400, Sean Dague wrote:
>  On 07/25/2014 01:18 AM, Ian Wienand wrote:
> > On 07/16/2014 11:15 PM, Alexis Lee wrote:
> >> What do you think about allowing some text after the words "recheck no
> >> bug"?
> >
> > I think this is a good idea; I am often away from a change for a bit,
> > something happens in-between and Jenkins fails it, but chasing it down
> > days later is fairly pointless given how fast things move.
> >
> > It would be nice if I could indicate "I thought about this".  In fact,
> > there might be an argument for *requiring* a reason
> >
> > I proposed [1] to allow this
> >
> > -i
> >
> > [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109492/
> 
>  At the QA / Infra meetup we actually talked about the recheck syntax,
>  and to change the way elastic recheck is interacting with the user.
> 
>  https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack-infra/elastic-recheck+branch:master+topic:erchanges,n,z
> 
>  and
> 
>  https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack-infra/config+branch:master+topic:er,n,z
> 
>  Are the result of that. Basically going forward we'll just support
> 
>  'recheck.*'
> >>>
> >>> I'm not sure I understand what you mean by that ? Are we going to
> >>> use the literal string 'recheck.*' or do you mean we'll use 'recheck'
> >>> and the user can put arbitrary text after it ?
> >>
> >> Sorry, I think in regex. recheck + arbitrary string.
> > 
> > Would that still allow us to only trigger 3rd party CI ? eg if we do
> > 'recheck xenserver' I don't want to trigger the main CI, only the Xen
> > CI.
> 
> No, the 3rd party folks went off and created a grammar without
> discussing it with the infra team (also against specific objections to
> doing so). Such it is.

Whether or not we agree with the current syntax, it is *critical* to
maintain this ability to trigger only 3rd party CI systems, otherwise
the odds of being able to get a pass from all CI go down the toilet
even further than they already are. 

We must resolve this before introducing the new syntax

Regards,
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Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] "recheck no bug" and comment

2014-07-25 Thread Bob Ball
> -Original Message-
> From: Sean Dague [mailto:s...@dague.net]
> Sent: 25 July 2014 12:36
> To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] "recheck no bug" and comment
> 
> > Would that still allow us to only trigger 3rd party CI ? eg if we do
> > 'recheck xenserver' I don't want to trigger the main CI, only the Xen
> > CI.
> 
> No, the 3rd party folks went off and created a grammar without
> discussing it with the infra team (also against specific objections to
> doing so). Such it is.

When setting up the XenServer CI the recheck syntax I added was requested by 
reviewers and I certainly wasn't aware of these specific objections.

Do you have a proposal for the grammar you'd like 3rd party CIs to follow?

Thanks,

Bob

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Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] "recheck no bug" and comment

2014-07-25 Thread Sean Dague
On 07/25/2014 07:17 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 07:09:56AM -0400, Sean Dague wrote:
>> On 07/25/2014 06:53 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 06:38:29AM -0400, Sean Dague wrote:
 On 07/25/2014 01:18 AM, Ian Wienand wrote:
> On 07/16/2014 11:15 PM, Alexis Lee wrote:
>> What do you think about allowing some text after the words "recheck no
>> bug"?
>
> I think this is a good idea; I am often away from a change for a bit,
> something happens in-between and Jenkins fails it, but chasing it down
> days later is fairly pointless given how fast things move.
>
> It would be nice if I could indicate "I thought about this".  In fact,
> there might be an argument for *requiring* a reason
>
> I proposed [1] to allow this
>
> -i
>
> [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109492/

 At the QA / Infra meetup we actually talked about the recheck syntax,
 and to change the way elastic recheck is interacting with the user.

 https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack-infra/elastic-recheck+branch:master+topic:erchanges,n,z

 and

 https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack-infra/config+branch:master+topic:er,n,z

 Are the result of that. Basically going forward we'll just support

 'recheck.*'
>>>
>>> I'm not sure I understand what you mean by that ? Are we going to
>>> use the literal string 'recheck.*' or do you mean we'll use 'recheck'
>>> and the user can put arbitrary text after it ?
>>
>> Sorry, I think in regex. recheck + arbitrary string.
> 
> Would that still allow us to only trigger 3rd party CI ? eg if we do
> 'recheck xenserver' I don't want to trigger the main CI, only the Xen
> CI.

No, the 3rd party folks went off and created a grammar without
discussing it with the infra team (also against specific objections to
doing so). Such it is.

-Sean

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Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] "recheck no bug" and comment

2014-07-25 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 07:09:56AM -0400, Sean Dague wrote:
> On 07/25/2014 06:53 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 06:38:29AM -0400, Sean Dague wrote:
> >> On 07/25/2014 01:18 AM, Ian Wienand wrote:
> >>> On 07/16/2014 11:15 PM, Alexis Lee wrote:
>  What do you think about allowing some text after the words "recheck no
>  bug"?
> >>>
> >>> I think this is a good idea; I am often away from a change for a bit,
> >>> something happens in-between and Jenkins fails it, but chasing it down
> >>> days later is fairly pointless given how fast things move.
> >>>
> >>> It would be nice if I could indicate "I thought about this".  In fact,
> >>> there might be an argument for *requiring* a reason
> >>>
> >>> I proposed [1] to allow this
> >>>
> >>> -i
> >>>
> >>> [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109492/
> >>
> >> At the QA / Infra meetup we actually talked about the recheck syntax,
> >> and to change the way elastic recheck is interacting with the user.
> >>
> >> https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack-infra/elastic-recheck+branch:master+topic:erchanges,n,z
> >>
> >> and
> >>
> >> https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack-infra/config+branch:master+topic:er,n,z
> >>
> >> Are the result of that. Basically going forward we'll just support
> >>
> >> 'recheck.*'
> > 
> > I'm not sure I understand what you mean by that ? Are we going to
> > use the literal string 'recheck.*' or do you mean we'll use 'recheck'
> > and the user can put arbitrary text after it ?
> 
> Sorry, I think in regex. recheck + arbitrary string.

Would that still allow us to only trigger 3rd party CI ? eg if we do
'recheck xenserver' I don't want to trigger the main CI, only the Xen
CI.

Regards,
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Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] "recheck no bug" and comment

2014-07-25 Thread Sean Dague
On 07/25/2014 06:53 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 06:38:29AM -0400, Sean Dague wrote:
>> On 07/25/2014 01:18 AM, Ian Wienand wrote:
>>> On 07/16/2014 11:15 PM, Alexis Lee wrote:
 What do you think about allowing some text after the words "recheck no
 bug"?
>>>
>>> I think this is a good idea; I am often away from a change for a bit,
>>> something happens in-between and Jenkins fails it, but chasing it down
>>> days later is fairly pointless given how fast things move.
>>>
>>> It would be nice if I could indicate "I thought about this".  In fact,
>>> there might be an argument for *requiring* a reason
>>>
>>> I proposed [1] to allow this
>>>
>>> -i
>>>
>>> [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109492/
>>
>> At the QA / Infra meetup we actually talked about the recheck syntax,
>> and to change the way elastic recheck is interacting with the user.
>>
>> https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack-infra/elastic-recheck+branch:master+topic:erchanges,n,z
>>
>> and
>>
>> https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack-infra/config+branch:master+topic:er,n,z
>>
>> Are the result of that. Basically going forward we'll just support
>>
>> 'recheck.*'
> 
> I'm not sure I understand what you mean by that ? Are we going to
> use the literal string 'recheck.*' or do you mean we'll use 'recheck'
> and the user can put arbitrary text after it ?

Sorry, I think in regex. recheck + arbitrary string.

-Sean

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Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] "recheck no bug" and comment

2014-07-25 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 06:38:29AM -0400, Sean Dague wrote:
> On 07/25/2014 01:18 AM, Ian Wienand wrote:
> > On 07/16/2014 11:15 PM, Alexis Lee wrote:
> >> What do you think about allowing some text after the words "recheck no
> >> bug"?
> > 
> > I think this is a good idea; I am often away from a change for a bit,
> > something happens in-between and Jenkins fails it, but chasing it down
> > days later is fairly pointless given how fast things move.
> > 
> > It would be nice if I could indicate "I thought about this".  In fact,
> > there might be an argument for *requiring* a reason
> > 
> > I proposed [1] to allow this
> > 
> > -i
> > 
> > [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109492/
> 
> At the QA / Infra meetup we actually talked about the recheck syntax,
> and to change the way elastic recheck is interacting with the user.
> 
> https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack-infra/elastic-recheck+branch:master+topic:erchanges,n,z
> 
> and
> 
> https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack-infra/config+branch:master+topic:er,n,z
> 
> Are the result of that. Basically going forward we'll just support
> 
> 'recheck.*'

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by that ? Are we going to
use the literal string 'recheck.*' or do you mean we'll use 'recheck'
and the user can put arbitrary text after it ?

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Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] "recheck no bug" and comment

2014-07-25 Thread Sean Dague
On 07/25/2014 01:18 AM, Ian Wienand wrote:
> On 07/16/2014 11:15 PM, Alexis Lee wrote:
>> What do you think about allowing some text after the words "recheck no
>> bug"?
> 
> I think this is a good idea; I am often away from a change for a bit,
> something happens in-between and Jenkins fails it, but chasing it down
> days later is fairly pointless given how fast things move.
> 
> It would be nice if I could indicate "I thought about this".  In fact,
> there might be an argument for *requiring* a reason
> 
> I proposed [1] to allow this
> 
> -i
> 
> [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109492/

At the QA / Infra meetup we actually talked about the recheck syntax,
and to change the way elastic recheck is interacting with the user.

https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack-infra/elastic-recheck+branch:master+topic:erchanges,n,z

and

https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack-infra/config+branch:master+topic:er,n,z

Are the result of that. Basically going forward we'll just support

'recheck.*'

If you want to provide us with info after the recheck, great, we can
mine it later. However we aren't using that a ton at this point, so
we'll make it easier on people.

-Sean

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Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] "recheck no bug" and comment

2014-07-24 Thread Ian Wienand

On 07/16/2014 11:15 PM, Alexis Lee wrote:

What do you think about allowing some text after the words "recheck no
bug"?


I think this is a good idea; I am often away from a change for a bit,
something happens in-between and Jenkins fails it, but chasing it down
days later is fairly pointless given how fast things move.

It would be nice if I could indicate "I thought about this".  In fact,
there might be an argument for *requiring* a reason

I proposed [1] to allow this

-i

[1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109492/

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Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] "recheck no bug" and comment

2014-07-20 Thread Jay S. Bryant
I agree that there are cases where a bug is overkill and it would be
nice to add a note showing I did put some thought into doing the recheck
no bug.  Just my two cents.

On Wed, 2014-07-16 at 17:07 +0100, Derek Higgins wrote:
> On 16/07/14 14:48, Steve Martinelli wrote:
> > What are the benefits of doing this over looking at the existing
> > rechecks, and if not there opening a bug and rechecking the new bug?
> 
> I agree we should be using a bug number (or open one when needed), the
> example in the original email should have included a bug number but now
> that the topic has come up
> 
> I think this would serve as a good way to provide a little explanation
> as to why somebody has not provided a bug number e.g.
> 
> recheck no bug
>zuul was restarted
> 
> Derek
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > *Steve Martinelli*
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> > Keystone Core Member
> > 
> > *Phone:*1-905-413-2851*
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> > 8200 Warden Ave
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> > Canada
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From:    Alexis Lee 
> > To:    "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage
> > questions)" ,
> > Date:07/16/2014 09:19 AM
> > Subject:[openstack-dev]  [infra] "recheck no bug" and comment
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > What do you think about allowing some text after the words "recheck no
> > bug"? EG to include a snippet from the log showing the failure has been
> > at least briefly investigated before attempting a recheck. EG:
> > 
> >  recheck no bug
> > 
> >  Compute node failed to spawn:
> > 
> >2014-07-15 12:18:09.936 | 3f1e7f32-812e-48c8-a83c-2615c4451fa6 |
> >  overcloud-NovaCompute0-zahdxwar7zlh | ERROR  | - | NOSTATE | |
> > 
> > 
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Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] "recheck no bug" and comment

2014-07-16 Thread Derek Higgins
On 16/07/14 14:48, Steve Martinelli wrote:
> What are the benefits of doing this over looking at the existing
> rechecks, and if not there opening a bug and rechecking the new bug?

I agree we should be using a bug number (or open one when needed), the
example in the original email should have included a bug number but now
that the topic has come up

I think this would serve as a good way to provide a little explanation
as to why somebody has not provided a bug number e.g.

recheck no bug
   zuul was restarted

Derek

> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
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> Keystone Core Member
> 
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> E-mail:*_steve...@ca.ibm.com_ <mailto:steve...@ca.ibm.com>
> 8200 Warden Ave
> Markham, ON L6G 1C7
> Canada
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From:Alexis Lee 
> To:"OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage
> questions)" ,
> Date:    07/16/2014 09:19 AM
> Subject:[openstack-dev]  [infra] "recheck no bug" and comment
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> What do you think about allowing some text after the words "recheck no
> bug"? EG to include a snippet from the log showing the failure has been
> at least briefly investigated before attempting a recheck. EG:
> 
>  recheck no bug
> 
>  Compute node failed to spawn:
> 
>2014-07-15 12:18:09.936 | 3f1e7f32-812e-48c8-a83c-2615c4451fa6 |
>  overcloud-NovaCompute0-zahdxwar7zlh | ERROR  | - | NOSTATE | |
> 
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Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] "recheck no bug" and comment

2014-07-16 Thread Steve Martinelli
What are the benefits of doing this over
looking at the existing rechecks, and if not there opening a bug and rechecking
the new bug?


Regards,

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From:      
 Alexis Lee 
To:      
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Date:      
 07/16/2014 09:19 AM
Subject:    
   [openstack-dev]
 [infra] "recheck no bug" and comment




Hello,

What do you think about allowing some text after the words "recheck
no
bug"? EG to include a snippet from the log showing the failure has
been
at least briefly investigated before attempting a recheck. EG:

  recheck no bug

  Compute node failed to spawn:

    2014-07-15 12:18:09.936 | 3f1e7f32-812e-48c8-a83c-2615c4451fa6
|
      overcloud-NovaCompute0-zahdxwar7zlh | ERROR  |
- | NOSTATE | |


Alexis
-- 
Nova Engineer, HP Cloud.  AKA lealexis, lxsli.

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[openstack-dev] [infra] "recheck no bug" and comment

2014-07-16 Thread Alexis Lee
Hello,

What do you think about allowing some text after the words "recheck no
bug"? EG to include a snippet from the log showing the failure has been
at least briefly investigated before attempting a recheck. EG:

  recheck no bug

  Compute node failed to spawn:

2014-07-15 12:18:09.936 | 3f1e7f32-812e-48c8-a83c-2615c4451fa6 |
  overcloud-NovaCompute0-zahdxwar7zlh | ERROR  | - | NOSTATE | |


Alexis
-- 
Nova Engineer, HP Cloud.  AKA lealexis, lxsli.

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