Re: [openstack-dev] deliver the vm-level HA to improve the business continuity with openstack

2014-04-16 Thread Duncan Thomas
On 16 April 2014 03:33, Jay Pipes wrote: >> While I agree with the message, if cloud provider A has VM restarts >> every hour, and B has restarts every 6 months, all other things being >> equal I'm going to go with B. > > Pretty sure James wasn't saying that he restarts VMs every hour. The > idea

Re: [openstack-dev] deliver the vm-level HA to improve the business continuity with openstack

2014-04-15 Thread Chris Friesen
On 04/15/2014 08:33 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 12:01 +0100, Duncan Thomas wrote: On 14 April 2014 19:51, James Penick wrote: We drive the ³VM=Cattle² message pretty hard. Part of onboarding a property to our cloud, and allowing them to serve traffic from VMs is explaining the t

Re: [openstack-dev] deliver the vm-level HA to improve the business continuity with openstack

2014-04-15 Thread Jay Pipes
On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 12:01 +0100, Duncan Thomas wrote: > On 14 April 2014 19:51, James Penick wrote: > > We drive the ³VM=Cattle² message pretty hard. Part of onboarding a > > property to our cloud, and allowing them to serve traffic from VMs is > > explaining the transient nature of VMs. I broad

Re: [openstack-dev] deliver the vm-level HA to improve the business continuity with openstack

2014-04-15 Thread Duncan Thomas
On 14 April 2014 19:51, James Penick wrote: > We drive the ³VM=Cattle² message pretty hard. Part of onboarding a > property to our cloud, and allowing them to serve traffic from VMs is > explaining the transient nature of VMs. I broadcast the message that all > compute resources die, and if your d

Re: [openstack-dev] deliver the vm-level HA to improve the business continuity with openstack

2014-04-14 Thread Jay Pipes
On Mon, 2014-04-14 at 18:30 +, Tim Bell wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Jay Pipes [mailto:jaypi...@gmail.com] > > Sent: 14 April 2014 20:05 > > To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org > > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] deliver the vm-level HA to improv

Re: [openstack-dev] deliver the vm-level HA to improve the business continuity with openstack

2014-04-14 Thread James Penick
Enterprise! We drive the ³VM=Cattle² message pretty hard. Part of onboarding a property to our cloud, and allowing them to serve traffic from VMs is explaining the transient nature of VMs. I broadcast the message that all compute resources die, and if your day/week/month is ruined because of a sin

Re: [openstack-dev] deliver the vm-level HA to improve the business continuity with openstack

2014-04-14 Thread Joshua Harlow
ot; Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] deliver the vm-level HA to improve the business continuity with openstack >On Mon, 2014-04-14 at 10:56 -0700, Steven Dake wrote: >> On 04/14/2014 10:46 AM, Tim Bell wrote: >> > Can Heat control/monitor a VM which it has not created and restart

Re: [openstack-dev] deliver the vm-level HA to improve the business continuity with openstack

2014-04-14 Thread Tim Bell
> -Original Message- > From: Jay Pipes [mailto:jaypi...@gmail.com] > Sent: 14 April 2014 20:05 > To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] deliver the vm-level HA to improve the business > continuity with openstack > > On Mon, 2014-04-1

Re: [openstack-dev] deliver the vm-level HA to improve the business continuity with openstack

2014-04-14 Thread Jay Pipes
On Mon, 2014-04-14 at 10:56 -0700, Steven Dake wrote: > On 04/14/2014 10:46 AM, Tim Bell wrote: > > Can Heat control/monitor a VM which it has not created and restart it > > (potentially on a different hypervisor with live migration) ? > > > > Tim > Tim, > > No it sure can't. But a 10-20 line sh

Re: [openstack-dev] deliver the vm-level HA to improve the business continuity with openstack

2014-04-14 Thread Steven Dake
l.com] Sent: 14 April 2014 19:21 To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] deliver the vm-level HA to improve the business continuity with openstack ... For the most part we've been trying to encourage projects that want to control VMs to add such functional

Re: [openstack-dev] deliver the vm-level HA to improve the business continuity with openstack

2014-04-14 Thread Tim Bell
gt; Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] deliver the vm-level HA to improve the business > continuity with openstack ... > > > > For the most part we've been trying to encourage projects that want to > > control VMs to add such functionality to the Orchestration program, >

Re: [openstack-dev] deliver the vm-level HA to improve the business continuity with openstack

2014-04-14 Thread Jay Pipes
On Mon, 2014-04-14 at 07:45 -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: > Excerpts from Russell Bryant's message of 2014-04-14 07:18:49 -0700: > > On 04/14/2014 09:45 AM, Jiangying (Jenny) wrote: > > > Pacemaker provides the high availability for openstack infrastructure. > > > > > > We'd like to deliver the vm-lev

Re: [openstack-dev] deliver the vm-level HA to improve the business continuity with openstack

2014-04-14 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Russell Bryant's message of 2014-04-14 07:18:49 -0700: > On 04/14/2014 09:45 AM, Jiangying (Jenny) wrote: > > Pacemaker provides the high availability for openstack infrastructure. > > > > We'd like to deliver the vm-level HA to improve the business continuity > > with openstack. > >

Re: [openstack-dev] deliver the vm-level HA to improve the business continuity with openstack

2014-04-14 Thread Russell Bryant
On 04/14/2014 09:45 AM, Jiangying (Jenny) wrote: > Pacemaker provides the high availability for openstack infrastructure. > > We'd like to deliver the vm-level HA to improve the business continuity > with openstack. > > Besides host failure, Our HA mechanism can detect and report host > isolation

[openstack-dev] deliver the vm-level HA to improve the business continuity with openstack

2014-04-14 Thread Jiangying (Jenny)
Pacemaker provides the high availability for openstack infrastructure. We'd like to deliver the vm-level HA to improve the business continuity with openstack. Besides host failure, Our HA mechanism can detect and report host isolation, network partition as well as ha agent down. Ha agent is pla