Re: [openstack-dev] [openstack][cinder] hope to get any feedback about delay delete volume

2014-06-13 Thread Ben Nemec
On 06/13/2014 11:03 AM, John Griffith wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Ben Nemec  wrote:
> 
>> Please don't send review requests to the openstack-dev list.  The
>> correct procedure is outlined here:
>>
>> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-September/015264.html
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> -Ben
>>
>> On 06/12/2014 10:20 PM, Yuzhou (C) wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I have submit a blueprint about deferred deletion for volumes in
>> cinder: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97034/
>>>
>>> The implements of deferred deletion for volumes will introduce some
>> complexity, to this point, there are different options in stackers. So we
>> would like to get some feedback from anyone, particularly cloud operators.
>>>
>>>   Here, I introduce the importance of deferred deletion for volumes
>> again.
>>> Currently in cinder, calling the API of deleting volume means the
>> volume will be deleted immediately. If the user specify a wrong volume by
>> mistake, the data in the volume may be lost forever. To avoid this, I hope
>> to add a deferred deletion mechanism for volumes. So for a certain amount
>> of time, volumes can be restored after the user find a misuse of deleting
>> volume.
>>> Moreover, there are deferred deletion implements for instance in
>> nova and image in glance, I think it is very common feature to protected
>> important resource.
>>> So I think deferred deletion for volumes is valuable,  it seems to
>> me that should be sufficient.
>>>
>>> Welcome your feedback and suggestions!
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Zhou Yu
>>>
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> 
> ​Ben,
> 
> I believe Zhou Yu is actually seeking input from the broader community on
> the feature itself; not the review.
> 
> I wasn't overly enthusiastic about adding the feature and to me the
> argument of "instances do it" isn't necessarily the best reason to do
> something.  I'm torn on whether I think it's a good feature to implement or
> not given that I think there are some complexities it introduces that may
> not be worthwhile.
> 
> Anyway, I'm fairly open to hearing more input (maybe from some users in the
> community?) to get some input on how valuable or needed this feature
> actually is.
> 
> Thanks,
> John​
> 

Okay, sorry for the noise then.  It sounded like a review request, but
if the point was to bring the discussion to a wider audience then that
is obviously fine.

-Ben

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Re: [openstack-dev] [openstack][cinder] hope to get any feedback about delay delete volume

2014-06-13 Thread John Griffith
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Ben Nemec  wrote:

> Please don't send review requests to the openstack-dev list.  The
> correct procedure is outlined here:
>
> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-September/015264.html
>
> Thanks.
>
> -Ben
>
> On 06/12/2014 10:20 PM, Yuzhou (C) wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have submit a blueprint about deferred deletion for volumes in
> cinder: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97034/
> >
> > The implements of deferred deletion for volumes will introduce some
> complexity, to this point, there are different options in stackers. So we
> would like to get some feedback from anyone, particularly cloud operators.
> >
> >   Here, I introduce the importance of deferred deletion for volumes
> again.
> > Currently in cinder, calling the API of deleting volume means the
> volume will be deleted immediately. If the user specify a wrong volume by
> mistake, the data in the volume may be lost forever. To avoid this, I hope
> to add a deferred deletion mechanism for volumes. So for a certain amount
> of time, volumes can be restored after the user find a misuse of deleting
> volume.
> > Moreover, there are deferred deletion implements for instance in
> nova and image in glance, I think it is very common feature to protected
> important resource.
> > So I think deferred deletion for volumes is valuable,  it seems to
> me that should be sufficient.
> >
> > Welcome your feedback and suggestions!
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Zhou Yu
> >
> > ___
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> > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org
> > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
> >
>
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​Ben,

I believe Zhou Yu is actually seeking input from the broader community on
the feature itself; not the review.

I wasn't overly enthusiastic about adding the feature and to me the
argument of "instances do it" isn't necessarily the best reason to do
something.  I'm torn on whether I think it's a good feature to implement or
not given that I think there are some complexities it introduces that may
not be worthwhile.

Anyway, I'm fairly open to hearing more input (maybe from some users in the
community?) to get some input on how valuable or needed this feature
actually is.

Thanks,
John​
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Re: [openstack-dev] [openstack][cinder] hope to get any feedback about delay delete volume

2014-06-13 Thread Ben Nemec
Please don't send review requests to the openstack-dev list.  The
correct procedure is outlined here:
http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-September/015264.html

Thanks.

-Ben

On 06/12/2014 10:20 PM, Yuzhou (C) wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I have submit a blueprint about deferred deletion for volumes in cinder: 
> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97034/
> 
> The implements of deferred deletion for volumes will introduce some 
> complexity, to this point, there are different options in stackers. So we 
> would like to get some feedback from anyone, particularly cloud operators.
> 
>   Here, I introduce the importance of deferred deletion for volumes 
> again.  
> Currently in cinder, calling the API of deleting volume means the volume 
> will be deleted immediately. If the user specify a wrong volume by mistake, 
> the data in the volume may be lost forever. To avoid this, I hope to add a 
> deferred deletion mechanism for volumes. So for a certain amount of time, 
> volumes can be restored after the user find a misuse of deleting volume. 
> Moreover, there are deferred deletion implements for instance in nova and 
> image in glance, I think it is very common feature to protected important 
> resource.
> So I think deferred deletion for volumes is valuable,  it seems to me 
> that should be sufficient.
> 
> Welcome your feedback and suggestions!
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Zhou Yu
> 
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[openstack-dev] [openstack][cinder] hope to get any feedback about delay delete volume

2014-06-12 Thread Yuzhou (C)
Hi all,

I have submit a blueprint about deferred deletion for volumes in cinder: 
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97034/

The implements of deferred deletion for volumes will introduce some 
complexity, to this point, there are different options in stackers. So we would 
like to get some feedback from anyone, particularly cloud operators.

Here, I introduce the importance of deferred deletion for volumes 
again.  
Currently in cinder, calling the API of deleting volume means the volume 
will be deleted immediately. If the user specify a wrong volume by mistake, the 
data in the volume may be lost forever. To avoid this, I hope to add a deferred 
deletion mechanism for volumes. So for a certain amount of time, volumes can be 
restored after the user find a misuse of deleting volume. 
Moreover, there are deferred deletion implements for instance in nova and 
image in glance, I think it is very common feature to protected important 
resource.
So I think deferred deletion for volumes is valuable,  it seems to me that 
should be sufficient.

Welcome your feedback and suggestions!

Thanks.

Zhou Yu

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