Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-17 Thread Gordon Sim
On 09/16/2014 08:55 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: pub/sub doesn't necessarily guarantees messages delivery, it really depends on the implementation. As I understand it, the model for pub-sub in Zaqar is to have multiple subscribers polling the queue with gets, and have the messages removed from

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-16 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/15/2014 09:33 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-09-15 12:05:09 -0700: On 15/09/14 13:28, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-15 00:57:05 -0700: On 09/12/2014 07:13 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-15 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/12/2014 07:13 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2014-09-12 02:16:42 -0700: Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-11 04:14:30 -0700: Is Zaqar being optimized as a *queuing* service? I'd say no. Our goal is to optimize Zaqar

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-15 00:57:05 -0700: On 09/12/2014 07:13 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2014-09-12 02:16:42 -0700: Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-11 04:14:30 -0700: Is Zaqar being

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-15 Thread Zane Bitter
On 15/09/14 13:28, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-15 00:57:05 -0700: On 09/12/2014 07:13 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2014-09-12 02:16:42 -0700: Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-11

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-09-15 12:05:09 -0700: On 15/09/14 13:28, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-15 00:57:05 -0700: On 09/12/2014 07:13 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2014-09-12 02:16:42 -0700:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-12 Thread Thierry Carrez
Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-11 04:14:30 -0700: Is Zaqar being optimized as a *queuing* service? I'd say no. Our goal is to optimize Zaqar for delivering messages and supporting different messaging patterns. Awesome! Just please don't expect people to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-12 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Wed, 2014-09-10 at 14:51 +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote: Flavio Percoco wrote: [...] Based on the feedback from the meeting[3], the current main concern is: - Do we need a messaging service with a feature-set akin to SQS+SNS? [...] I think we do need, as Samuel puts it, some sort of

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-12 Thread Gordon Sim
On 09/11/2014 07:46 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 09/10/2014 03:18 PM, Gordon Sim wrote: On 09/10/2014 09:58 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: Other OpenStack components can integrate with Zaqar to surface events to end users and to communicate with guest agents that run in the over-cloud layer.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-12 Thread Victoria Martínez de la Cruz
2014-09-12 10:44 GMT-03:00 Gordon Sim g...@redhat.com: On 09/11/2014 07:46 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 09/10/2014 03:18 PM, Gordon Sim wrote: On 09/10/2014 09:58 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: Other OpenStack components can integrate with Zaqar to surface events to end users and to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-12 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Mark McLoughlin's message of 2014-09-12 03:27:42 -0700: On Wed, 2014-09-10 at 14:51 +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote: Flavio Percoco wrote: [...] Based on the feedback from the meeting[3], the current main concern is: - Do we need a messaging service with a feature-set

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-11 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/10/2014 03:18 PM, Gordon Sim wrote: On 09/10/2014 09:58 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: To clarify the doubts of what Zaqar is or it's not, let me quote what's written in the project's overview section[0]: Zaqar is a multi-tenant cloud messaging service for web developers. How are

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-11 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/10/2014 03:45 PM, Gordon Sim wrote: On 09/10/2014 01:51 PM, Thierry Carrez wrote: I think we do need, as Samuel puts it, some sort of durable message-broker/queue-server thing. It's a basic application building block. Some claim it's THE basic application building block, more useful

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-11 04:14:30 -0700: On 09/10/2014 03:45 PM, Gordon Sim wrote: On 09/10/2014 01:51 PM, Thierry Carrez wrote: I think we do need, as Samuel puts it, some sort of durable message-broker/queue-server thing. It's a basic application building

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-10 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/09/2014 09:03 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: On 09/04/2014 01:30 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-04 00:08:47 -0700: Greetings, Last Tuesday the TC held the first graduation review for Zaqar. During the meeting some concerns arose. I've listed those

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-10 Thread Thierry Carrez
Flavio Percoco wrote: [...] Based on the feedback from the meeting[3], the current main concern is: - Do we need a messaging service with a feature-set akin to SQS+SNS? [...] I think we do need, as Samuel puts it, some sort of durable message-broker/queue-server thing. It's a basic

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-10 Thread Gordon Sim
On 09/10/2014 09:58 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: To clarify the doubts of what Zaqar is or it's not, let me quote what's written in the project's overview section[0]: Zaqar is a multi-tenant cloud messaging service for web developers. How are different tenants isolated from each other?

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-10 Thread Gordon Sim
On 09/10/2014 01:51 PM, Thierry Carrez wrote: I think we do need, as Samuel puts it, some sort of durable message-broker/queue-server thing. It's a basic application building block. Some claim it's THE basic application building block, more useful than database provisioning. It's definitely a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-10 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Gordon Sim's message of 2014-09-10 06:18:52 -0700: On 09/10/2014 09:58 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: To clarify the doubts of what Zaqar is or it's not, let me quote what's written in the project's overview section[0]: Zaqar is a multi-tenant cloud messaging service for web

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-10 Thread Gordon Sim
On 09/10/2014 07:29 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Gordon Sim's message of 2014-09-10 06:18:52 -0700: On 09/10/2014 09:58 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: Other OpenStack components can integrate with Zaqar to surface events to end users and to communicate with guest agents that run in the