Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Cross-Project Liaison for the API Working Group

2014-11-19 Thread Everett Toews
On Nov 16, 2014, at 4:59 PM, Christopher Yeoh  wrote:

> My 2c is we should say "The liason should be the PTL or whomever they 
> delegate to be their representative"  and not mention anything about the 
> person needing to be a core developer. It removes any ambiguity about who 
> ultimately decides who the liason is (the PTL) without saying that they have 
> to do the work themselves.

Sure. Go ahead and change it to that.

Everett


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Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Cross-Project Liaison for the API Working Group

2014-11-16 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 7:26 AM, Everett Toews 
wrote:

> On Nov 14, 2014, at 1:43 PM, Jay Pipes  wrote:
>
> > On 11/14/2014 05:13 PM, Everett Toews wrote:
> >> The liaison should be a core reviewer for the project, but does not
> >> need to be the PTL. By default, the liaison will be the PTL.
> >
> > ]Anyway, the outcome of the email exchange with Eoghan was that I
> recommended he submit a core for the API liaison to start, and that I would
> raise the issue on the ML to see if those conditions may be loosened to
> include non-cores. And... here is that issue being raised :)
>
> I’m totally fine with that. Ideally it’s the person who is the most
> passionate about the API from the team, regardless of core status.
>
> The current wording on the Cross-Project Liaisons page is
>
> "The liaison should be a core reviewer for the project, but does not need
> to be the PTL.”
>
> I think the key word there is _should_. Naturally, it’s preferable to want
> a core reviewer in this role because they have more say about what gets
> into the code base but it’s not an absolute must.
>
> We can loosen the wording further but I think it’s okay to proceed with a
> non-core reviewer, especially if that person is passionate about APIs.
>
>
My 2c is we should say "The liason should be the PTL or whomever they
delegate to be their representative"  and not mention anything about the
person needing to be a core developer. It removes any ambiguity about who
ultimately decides who the liason is (the PTL) without saying that they
have to do the work themselves.

Regards,

Chris



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Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Cross-Project Liaison for the API Working Group

2014-11-14 Thread Everett Toews
On Nov 14, 2014, at 1:43 PM, Jay Pipes  wrote:

> On 11/14/2014 05:13 PM, Everett Toews wrote:
>> The liaison should be a core reviewer for the project, but does not
>> need to be the PTL. By default, the liaison will be the PTL.
> 
> ]Anyway, the outcome of the email exchange with Eoghan was that I recommended 
> he submit a core for the API liaison to start, and that I would raise the 
> issue on the ML to see if those conditions may be loosened to include 
> non-cores. And... here is that issue being raised :)

I’m totally fine with that. Ideally it’s the person who is the most passionate 
about the API from the team, regardless of core status.

The current wording on the Cross-Project Liaisons page is 

"The liaison should be a core reviewer for the project, but does not need to be 
the PTL.”

I think the key word there is _should_. Naturally, it’s preferable to want a 
core reviewer in this role because they have more say about what gets into the 
code base but it’s not an absolute must. 

We can loosen the wording further but I think it’s okay to proceed with a 
non-core reviewer, especially if that person is passionate about APIs.

Everett


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Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Cross-Project Liaison for the API Working Group

2014-11-14 Thread Jay Pipes

On 11/14/2014 05:13 PM, Everett Toews wrote:

The liaison should be a core reviewer for the project, but does not
need to be the PTL. By default, the liaison will be the PTL.


Hi Everett!

Thanks for taking on this action item and following up this week. I'm 
still on vacation (crappy wireless and all...) but I did have a quick 
email back and forth with Eoghan about whether it's absolutely necessary 
for the liaison to be a core team member. Personally, I don't think 
there's anything wrong with a non-core team member taking responsibility 
for being an API WG liaison. After all, it doesn't necessarily follow 
that those who shepherd the source tree and reviews should necessarily 
be the only pool from which to find API-focused individuals.


Anyway, the outcome of the email exchange with Eoghan was that I 
recommended he submit a core for the API liaison to start, and that I 
would raise the issue on the ML to see if those conditions may be 
loosened to include non-cores. And... here is that issue being raised :)


Thoughts?

Best,
-jay

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