Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] [nova] Cinder and Nova availability zones

2015-08-28 Thread Dulko, Michal
From: Ben Swartzlander [mailto:b...@swartzlander.org] Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 8:11 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) On 08/27/2015 10:43 AM, Ivan Kolodyazhny wrote: Hi, Looks like we need to be able to set AZ per backend. What do

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] [nova] Cinder and Nova availability zones

2015-08-28 Thread Duncan Thomas
Except your failure domain includes the cinder volume service, independent of the resiliency of you backend, so if they're all on one node then you don't really have availability zones. I have historically strongly espoused the same view as Ben, though there are lots of people who want fake

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] [nova] Cinder and Nova availability zones

2015-08-28 Thread Dulko, Michal
From: Duncan Thomas [mailto:duncan.tho...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 2:31 PM Except your failure domain includes the cinder volume service, independent of the resiliency of you backend, so if they're all on one node then you don't really have availability zones. I have

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] [nova] Cinder and Nova availability zones

2015-08-28 Thread Ned Rhudy (BLOOMBERG/ 731 LEX)
our Ceph crush map, so Cinder doesn't need to worry about it. It should just throw volumes at the configured RBD pool for the requested backend and not concern itself with what's going on behind the scenes. From: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] [nova

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] [nova] Cinder and Nova availability zones

2015-08-27 Thread Ivan Kolodyazhny
Hi, Looks like we need to be able to set AZ per backend. What do you think about such option? Regards, Ivan Kolodyazhny On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 7:07 PM, John Griffith john.griffi...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Dulko, Michal michal.du...@intel.com wrote: Hi, In

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] [nova] Cinder and Nova availability zones

2015-08-27 Thread Ben Swartzlander
On 08/27/2015 10:43 AM, Ivan Kolodyazhny wrote: Hi, Looks like we need to be able to set AZ per backend. What do you think about such option? I dislike such an option. The whole premise behind an AZ is that it's a failure domain. The node running the cinder services is in exactly one such

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] [nova] Cinder and Nova availability zones

2015-08-27 Thread Dulko, Michal
: [openstack-dev] [cinder] [nova] Cinder and Nova availability zones Hi, Looks like we need to be able to set AZ per backend. What do you think about such option? Regards, Ivan Kolodyazhny On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 7:07 PM, John Griffith john.griffi...@gmail.com mailto:john.griffi

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] [nova] Cinder and Nova availability zones

2015-08-10 Thread John Griffith
On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Dulko, Michal michal.du...@intel.com wrote: Hi, In Kilo cycle [1] was merged. It started passing AZ of a booted VM to Cinder to make volumes appear in the same AZ as VM. This is certainly a good approach, but I wonder how to deal with an use case when