Re: [openstack-dev] [gantt] Scheduler sessions at the summit
(I hijacked this thread to save the context but changed the subject so more people might read it.) Looks like we have a scheduler specific session on Thurs. at 11:00AM for 90 min. so we can use that for working out some of the specific scheduler changes we want to do (e.g. the split for sure). On the Nova summit etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-nova-summit-topics there is a scheduler section but it's not very cross-project focused. I would like a cross project session on Tues. so we can get requirements from other projects on what they need from a common scheduler. I don't know that I have specifics that I can put down on an etherpad yet, I'm hoping to get that info from other projects. Specifically, I think: 1) Cinder 2) Containers 3) Neutron 4) Ceilometer 5) Heat are specific projects that have scheduling requirements (either to use the scheduler or provide input to it) that they need and it would be really good to find out exactly what they need. My suggestion would be an etherpad with a big title `Requirements' on top and sections for each of those projects would be enough to get us started. PS: Note that Sylvain and I are both on vacation next week so we'll have to miss the Gantt meeting. It would be great if you could lead the meeting Jay, otherwise we'll just meet up at the summit. -- Don Dugger Censeo Toto nos in Kansa esse decisse. - D. Gale Ph: 303/443-3786 -Original Message- From: Jay Pipes [mailto:jaypi...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 10:10 AM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [gantt] Scheduler group meeting - cancelled this week INTERNAL The regular meeting time is Tuesdays at 15:00 UTC/11am EST: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings#Gantt_.28Scheduler.29_team_meeting Generally, we don't do slides for design summit sessions -- we use etherpads instead and the sessions are discussions, not presentations. Next week's meeting we can and should create etherpads for the cross-project session(s) that we will get allocated for Gantt topics. Best, -jay On 10/22/2014 11:54 AM, Elzur, Uri wrote: Don Will there be a meeting next week? What is the regular time slot for the meeting? I'd like to work w you on a technical slide to use in Paris Do we need to socialize the Gantt topic more? Thx Uri (Oo-Ree) C: 949-378-7568 *From:* Dugger, Donald D [mailto:donald.d.dug...@intel.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2014 6:04 AM *To:* OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) *Subject:* [openstack-dev] [gantt] Scheduler group meeting - cancelled this week Just a reminder that, as we mentioned last week, no meeting today. -- Don Dugger Censeo Toto nos in Kansa esse decisse. - D. Gale Ph: 303/443-3786 ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [gantt] Scheduler sessions at the summit
On 10/24/2014 10:39 AM, Dugger, Donald D wrote: (I hijacked this thread to save the context but changed the subject so more people might read it.) Looks like we have a scheduler specific session on Thurs. at 11:00AM for 90 min. so we can use that for working out some of the specific scheduler changes we want to do (e.g. the split for sure). I'd prefer we had much of that done by the time the summit rolls around, thus the focus on the various blueprints that involve the resource tracker and scheduler. Please do review these all: resource object models: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/127609/ request spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/127610/ select_destinations(): https://review.openstack.org/#/c/127612/ detach service from compute: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/126895/ isolate scheduler db: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/89893/ Note that the last one I have proposed to break down into further more specific blueprints that cover the aggregate and instance group DB calls separately... On the Nova summit etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-nova-summit-topics there is a scheduler section but it's not very cross-project focused. I would like a cross project session on Tues. so we can get requirements from other projects on what they need from a common scheduler. I don't know that I have specifics that I can put down on an etherpad yet, I'm hoping to get that info from other projects. Specifically, I think: There is a Gantt session in the cross-project summit etherpad (#17 on the list): https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-crossproject-summit-topics My guess is that we will indeed have the Gantt session on Tuesday, as there is quite a bit of interest in it. The remainder of the TC members are voting today on those cross-project sessions and ttx will take it from there. 1) Cinder 2) Containers 3) Neutron 4) Ceilometer 5) Heat are specific projects that have scheduling requirements (either to use the scheduler or provide input to it) that they need and it would be really good to find out exactly what they need. My suggestion would be an etherpad with a big title `Requirements' on top and sections for each of those projects would be enough to get us started. As I mentioned in the previous response, I would greatly prefer if the Gantt cross-project session was actually NOT a we want XYZ from the scheduler session. I'd prefer to have an etherpad already containing all those requirements from people before the summit and use the summit time to discuss prioritization and implementation/design proposals for actually getting the work done. PS: Note that Sylvain and I are both on vacation next week so we'll have to miss the Gantt meeting. It would be great if you could lead the meeting Jay, otherwise we'll just meet up at the summit. Sure, I can do that, no problem. Me and Paul will ponder the vast expanse of time and space together and then try to unclutter the resource tracker. :) -jay -- Don Dugger Censeo Toto nos in Kansa esse decisse. - D. Gale Ph: 303/443-3786 -Original Message- From: Jay Pipes [mailto:jaypi...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 10:10 AM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [gantt] Scheduler group meeting - cancelled this week INTERNAL The regular meeting time is Tuesdays at 15:00 UTC/11am EST: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings#Gantt_.28Scheduler.29_team_meeting Generally, we don't do slides for design summit sessions -- we use etherpads instead and the sessions are discussions, not presentations. Next week's meeting we can and should create etherpads for the cross-project session(s) that we will get allocated for Gantt topics. Best, -jay On 10/22/2014 11:54 AM, Elzur, Uri wrote: Don Will there be a meeting next week? What is the regular time slot for the meeting? I'd like to work w you on a technical slide to use in Paris Do we need to socialize the Gantt topic more? Thx Uri (Oo-Ree) C: 949-378-7568 *From:* Dugger, Donald D [mailto:donald.d.dug...@intel.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2014 6:04 AM *To:* OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) *Subject:* [openstack-dev] [gantt] Scheduler group meeting - cancelled this week Just a reminder that, as we mentioned last week, no meeting today. -- Don Dugger Censeo Toto nos in Kansa esse decisse. - D. Gale Ph: 303/443-3786 ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [gantt] Scheduler sessions at the summit
Jay- Your faith in the ability of everyone to get concrete ideas down before the summit is a joy to behold - I'm a little more cynical :-) I think it'll happen in Paris. 1) Gantt specific work. Your list of BPs is great, if we can come to an implementation plan for those on Thurs. I will be ecstatic. 2) Replies to this thread on cross project requirements would be wonderful. Let's see what we can get. -- Don Dugger Censeo Toto nos in Kansa esse decisse. - D. Gale Ph: 303/443-3786 -Original Message- From: Jay Pipes [mailto:jaypi...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 9:40 AM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [gantt] Scheduler sessions at the summit On 10/24/2014 10:39 AM, Dugger, Donald D wrote: (I hijacked this thread to save the context but changed the subject so more people might read it.) Looks like we have a scheduler specific session on Thurs. at 11:00AM for 90 min. so we can use that for working out some of the specific scheduler changes we want to do (e.g. the split for sure). I'd prefer we had much of that done by the time the summit rolls around, thus the focus on the various blueprints that involve the resource tracker and scheduler. Please do review these all: resource object models: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/127609/ request spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/127610/ select_destinations(): https://review.openstack.org/#/c/127612/ detach service from compute: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/126895/ isolate scheduler db: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/89893/ Note that the last one I have proposed to break down into further more specific blueprints that cover the aggregate and instance group DB calls separately... On the Nova summit etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-nova-summit-topics there is a scheduler section but it's not very cross-project focused. I would like a cross project session on Tues. so we can get requirements from other projects on what they need from a common scheduler. I don't know that I have specifics that I can put down on an etherpad yet, I'm hoping to get that info from other projects. Specifically, I think: There is a Gantt session in the cross-project summit etherpad (#17 on the list): https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-crossproject-summit-topics My guess is that we will indeed have the Gantt session on Tuesday, as there is quite a bit of interest in it. The remainder of the TC members are voting today on those cross-project sessions and ttx will take it from there. 1) Cinder 2) Containers 3) Neutron 4) Ceilometer 5) Heat are specific projects that have scheduling requirements (either to use the scheduler or provide input to it) that they need and it would be really good to find out exactly what they need. My suggestion would be an etherpad with a big title `Requirements' on top and sections for each of those projects would be enough to get us started. As I mentioned in the previous response, I would greatly prefer if the Gantt cross-project session was actually NOT a we want XYZ from the scheduler session. I'd prefer to have an etherpad already containing all those requirements from people before the summit and use the summit time to discuss prioritization and implementation/design proposals for actually getting the work done. PS: Note that Sylvain and I are both on vacation next week so we'll have to miss the Gantt meeting. It would be great if you could lead the meeting Jay, otherwise we'll just meet up at the summit. Sure, I can do that, no problem. Me and Paul will ponder the vast expanse of time and space together and then try to unclutter the resource tracker. :) -jay -- Don Dugger Censeo Toto nos in Kansa esse decisse. - D. Gale Ph: 303/443-3786 -Original Message- From: Jay Pipes [mailto:jaypi...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 10:10 AM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [gantt] Scheduler group meeting - cancelled this week INTERNAL The regular meeting time is Tuesdays at 15:00 UTC/11am EST: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings#Gantt_.28Scheduler.29_team_me eting Generally, we don't do slides for design summit sessions -- we use etherpads instead and the sessions are discussions, not presentations. Next week's meeting we can and should create etherpads for the cross-project session(s) that we will get allocated for Gantt topics. Best, -jay On 10/22/2014 11:54 AM, Elzur, Uri wrote: Don Will there be a meeting next week? What is the regular time slot for the meeting? I'd like to work w you on a technical slide to use in Paris Do we need to socialize the Gantt topic more? Thx Uri (Oo-Ree) C: 949-378-7568 *From:* Dugger, Donald D [mailto:donald.d.dug...@intel.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2014 6:04 AM *To:* OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) *Subject:* [openstack-dev] [gantt
