Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][project navigator] kolla missing in project navigator

2018-08-22 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Thierry,

Kolla likely belongs in the packaging recipes in the map.  Kolla-Ansible 
belongs in the lifecycle tools.

FWIW, I'm agree with Jean on the location of OpenStack-Ansible in the map.  
This is a deployment tool, not really a set of recipes.  I think the name 
"openstack-ansible" as a project is what causes all the confusion.  Some folks 
see it as a set of playbooks by its naming, but really its a lifecycle 
management tool simply using Ansible as a dependent technology.

Jimmy,

Thanks for your help in sorting out the project navigator.  This is greatly 
appreciated.

Cheers
-steve


From: Thierry Carrez 
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project navigator

Eduardo,

"Kolla" was originally left out of the map (and therefore the new
OpenStack components page) because the map only shows deliverables that
are directly usable by deployers. That is why "Kolla-Ansible" is listed
there and not "Kolla".

Are you making the case that Kolla should be used directly by deployers
(rather than run it though Ansible with Kolla-Ansible), and therefore
should appear as a deployment option on the map as well ?

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Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][project navigator] kolla missing in project navigator

2018-08-20 Thread Eduardo Gonzalez
Yes, that was my intention. Didn't meant to say kolla as images, i meant
kolla-ansible.

On Mon, Aug 20, 2018, 4:59 PM Thierry Carrez  wrote:

> Eduardo Gonzalez wrote:
> > Hi, effectively kolla-ansible is the deployment tool for container
> > images, and kolla the image artifact builder used by other deployment
> > projects as consumable.
> >
> > In the project navigator wasn't kolla nor kolla-ansible, my bad for not
> > expecifying kolla-ansible as deployment deliverable.
>
> OK, so how about we make sure *Kolla-Ansible* is present both in the map
> and the components list ?
>
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Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][project navigator] kolla missing in project navigator

2018-08-20 Thread Thierry Carrez

Eduardo Gonzalez wrote:
Hi, effectively kolla-ansible is the deployment tool for container 
images, and kolla the image artifact builder used by other deployment 
projects as consumable.


In the project navigator wasn't kolla nor kolla-ansible, my bad for not 
expecifying kolla-ansible as deployment deliverable.


OK, so how about we make sure *Kolla-Ansible* is present both in the map 
and the components list ?


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Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][project navigator] kolla missing in project navigator

2018-08-20 Thread Eduardo Gonzalez
Hi, effectively kolla-ansible is the deployment tool for container images,
and kolla the image artifact builder used by other deployment projects as
consumable.

In the project navigator wasn't kolla nor kolla-ansible, my bad for not
expecifying kolla-ansible as deployment deliverable.

Regards

On Mon, Aug 20, 2018, 4:31 PM Thierry Carrez  wrote:

> Eduardo,
>
> "Kolla" was originally left out of the map (and therefore the new
> OpenStack components page) because the map only shows deliverables that
> are directly usable by deployers. That is why "Kolla-Ansible" is listed
> there and not "Kolla".
>
> Are you making the case that Kolla should be used directly by deployers
> (rather than run it though Ansible with Kolla-Ansible), and therefore
> should appear as a deployment option on the map as well ?
>
> --
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>
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Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][project navigator] kolla missing in project navigator

2018-08-20 Thread Thierry Carrez

Eduardo,

"Kolla" was originally left out of the map (and therefore the new 
OpenStack components page) because the map only shows deliverables that 
are directly usable by deployers. That is why "Kolla-Ansible" is listed 
there and not "Kolla".


Are you making the case that Kolla should be used directly by deployers 
(rather than run it though Ansible with Kolla-Ansible), and therefore 
should appear as a deployment option on the map as well ?


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Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][project navigator] kolla missing in project navigator

2018-08-20 Thread Eduardo Gonzalez
Hi Jimmy, thanks for the the quick update. I see it in the navigator now.

Thanks

On Mon, Aug 20, 2018, 3:57 PM Jimmy McArthur  wrote:

> Eduardo,
>
> Thanks for the heads up.  We're in the process of updating the Project
> Navigator to match the OpenStack Map [1].  It looks like Kolla got lost
> in the shuffle.  I've added it back to the Project [2Navigator under the
> Deployment Tools section [2].
>
> Please let me know if I can assist further.
>
> Thanks,
> Jimmy
>
>
> [1] https://www.openstack.org/assets/software/projectmap/openstack-map.pdf
> [2] https://www.openstack.org/software/project-navigator/deployment-tools
>
> Eduardo Gonzalez wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > while checking around the project navigator, I don't see kolla in the
> > deployment tools section.
> >
> > How could we get kolla appear in the navigator along other deployment
> > tools?
> >
> > Regards
> >
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Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][project navigator] kolla missing in project navigator

2018-08-20 Thread Jimmy McArthur

Eduardo,

Thanks for the heads up.  We're in the process of updating the Project 
Navigator to match the OpenStack Map [1].  It looks like Kolla got lost 
in the shuffle.  I've added it back to the Project [2Navigator under the 
Deployment Tools section [2].


Please let me know if I can assist further.

Thanks,
Jimmy


[1] https://www.openstack.org/assets/software/projectmap/openstack-map.pdf
[2] https://www.openstack.org/software/project-navigator/deployment-tools

Eduardo Gonzalez wrote:

Hi,

while checking around the project navigator, I don't see kolla in the 
deployment tools section.


How could we get kolla appear in the navigator along other deployment 
tools?


Regards
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