Re: [openstack-dev] [ptg] Dublin PTG proposed track schedule

[Lance Bragstad]

On 02/07/2018 05:28 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote:
> Lance Bragstad wrote:
>> On 02/05/2018 09:34 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote:
>>> Lance Bragstad wrote:
 Colleen started a thread asking if there was a need for a baremetal/vm
 group session [0], which generated quite a bit of positive response. Is
 there still a possibility of fitting that in on either Monday or
 Tuesday? The group is usually pretty large.

 [0]
 http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-January/126743.html
>>> Yes, we can still allocate a 80-people room or a 30-people one. Let me
>>> know if you prefer Monday, Tuesday or both.
>> Awesome - we're collecting topics in an etherpad, but we're likely only
>> going to get to three or four of them [0] [1]. We can work those topics
>> into two sessions. One on Monday and one on Tuesday, just to break
>> things up in case other things are happening those days that people want
>> to get to.
> Looking at that etherpad, do you need the room allocated for all the day
> on Monday/Tuesday ? It's doable, but if you already know you won't do
> anything on Monday afternoon, we can make that room reservable then.
I agree. I don't think we will need all of Monday and Tuesday. I wanted
to get a rough schedule put together so we wouldn't need to reserve the
entire room all day. So far we haven't received feedback on the proposed
schedule, so it's probably safe to mark the times listed in the etherpad.
>
> What should the track name be ? Some people suggested "cross-project
> identity integration" instead of baremetal-vm.
I'm terrible with names. Since the topics are identity specific, that
would make sense, but I do feel as though we high-jacked the session and
the name =/

I think John Garbutt came up with the original name. I'm sure he can
explain the reasoning for it better than I can.
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Re: [openstack-dev] [ptg] Dublin PTG proposed track schedule

[Dmitry Tantsur]

On 02/07/2018 12:28 PM, Thierry Carrez wrote:

Lance Bragstad wrote:

On 02/05/2018 09:34 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote:

Lance Bragstad wrote:

Colleen started a thread asking if there was a need for a baremetal/vm
group session [0], which generated quite a bit of positive response. Is
there still a possibility of fitting that in on either Monday or
Tuesday? The group is usually pretty large.

[0]
http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-January/126743.html

Yes, we can still allocate a 80-people room or a 30-people one. Let me
know if you prefer Monday, Tuesday or both.

Awesome - we're collecting topics in an etherpad, but we're likely only
going to get to three or four of them [0] [1]. We can work those topics
into two sessions. One on Monday and one on Tuesday, just to break
things up in case other things are happening those days that people want
to get to.


Looking at that etherpad, do you need the room allocated for all the day
on Monday/Tuesday ? It's doable, but if you already know you won't do
anything on Monday afternoon, we can make that room reservable then.

What should the track name be ? Some people suggested "cross-project
identity integration" instead of baremetal-vm.


++ please do not use bm-vm, it confuses everyone not involved from the beginning





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Re: [openstack-dev] [ptg] Dublin PTG proposed track schedule

[Thierry Carrez]

Lance Bragstad wrote:
> On 02/05/2018 09:34 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote:
>> Lance Bragstad wrote:
>>> Colleen started a thread asking if there was a need for a baremetal/vm
>>> group session [0], which generated quite a bit of positive response. Is
>>> there still a possibility of fitting that in on either Monday or
>>> Tuesday? The group is usually pretty large.
>>>
>>> [0]
>>> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-January/126743.html
>> Yes, we can still allocate a 80-people room or a 30-people one. Let me
>> know if you prefer Monday, Tuesday or both.
> Awesome - we're collecting topics in an etherpad, but we're likely only
> going to get to three or four of them [0] [1]. We can work those topics
> into two sessions. One on Monday and one on Tuesday, just to break
> things up in case other things are happening those days that people want
> to get to.

Looking at that etherpad, do you need the room allocated for all the day
on Monday/Tuesday ? It's doable, but if you already know you won't do
anything on Monday afternoon, we can make that room reservable then.

What should the track name be ? Some people suggested "cross-project
identity integration" instead of baremetal-vm.

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Re: [openstack-dev] [ptg] Dublin PTG proposed track schedule

[Lance Bragstad]

On 02/05/2018 09:34 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote:
> Lance Bragstad wrote:
>> Colleen started a thread asking if there was a need for a baremetal/vm
>> group session [0], which generated quite a bit of positive response. Is
>> there still a possibility of fitting that in on either Monday or
>> Tuesday? The group is usually pretty large.
>>
>> [0]
>> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-January/126743.html
> Yes, we can still allocate a 80-people room or a 30-people one. Let me
> know if you prefer Monday, Tuesday or both.
Awesome - we're collecting topics in an etherpad, but we're likely only
going to get to three or four of them [0] [1]. We can work those topics
into two sessions. One on Monday and one on Tuesday, just to break
things up in case other things are happening those days that people want
to get to.


[0] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/baremetal-vm-rocky-ptg
[1]
http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-dev/%23openstack-dev.2018-02-05.log.html#t2018-02-05T15:45:57
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Re: [openstack-dev] [ptg] Dublin PTG proposed track schedule

[Thierry Carrez]

Lance Bragstad wrote:
> Colleen started a thread asking if there was a need for a baremetal/vm
> group session [0], which generated quite a bit of positive response. Is
> there still a possibility of fitting that in on either Monday or
> Tuesday? The group is usually pretty large.
> 
> [0]
> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-January/126743.html

Yes, we can still allocate a 80-people room or a 30-people one. Let me
know if you prefer Monday, Tuesday or both.

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Re: [openstack-dev] [ptg] Dublin PTG proposed track schedule

[Thierry Carrez]

Luke Hinds wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 3:07 PM, Thierry Carrez  > wrote:
> 
> Luke Hinds wrote:
> > I had been monitoring for PTG room allocations, but I missed this email
> > which was the important one.
> >
> > The security SIG plans to meet at the PTG to discuss several topics. I
> > am to late to get our inclusion?
> 
> Not too late, but obviously less choice... Would you be interested in a
> full day on Monday ? What room size do you need ?
> 
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> 
> 
> A full day would be great, and room does not need to be large - I expect
> between 5 to 10.

OK, done!

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Re: [openstack-dev] [ptg] Dublin PTG proposed track schedule

[Luke Hinds]

On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 3:07 PM, Thierry Carrez 
wrote:

> Luke Hinds wrote:
> > I had been monitoring for PTG room allocations, but I missed this email
> > which was the important one.
> >
> > The security SIG plans to meet at the PTG to discuss several topics. I
> > am to late to get our inclusion?
>
> Not too late, but obviously less choice... Would you be interested in a
> full day on Monday ? What room size do you need ?
>
> --
> Thierry Carrez (ttx)
>

A full day would be great, and room does not need to be large - I expect
between 5 to 10.
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Re: [openstack-dev] [ptg] Dublin PTG proposed track schedule

[Lance Bragstad]

Colleen started a thread asking if there was a need for a baremetal/vm
group session [0], which generated quite a bit of positive response. Is
there still a possibility of fitting that in on either Monday or
Tuesday? The group is usually pretty large.

[0]
http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-January/126743.html

On 02/05/2018 09:07 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote:
> Luke Hinds wrote:
>> I had been monitoring for PTG room allocations, but I missed this email
>> which was the important one.
>>
>> The security SIG plans to meet at the PTG to discuss several topics. I
>> am to late to get our inclusion?
> Not too late, but obviously less choice... Would you be interested in a
> full day on Monday ? What room size do you need ?
>




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Re: [openstack-dev] [ptg] Dublin PTG proposed track schedule

[Thierry Carrez]

Luke Hinds wrote:
> I had been monitoring for PTG room allocations, but I missed this email
> which was the important one.
> 
> The security SIG plans to meet at the PTG to discuss several topics. I
> am to late to get our inclusion?

Not too late, but obviously less choice... Would you be interested in a
full day on Monday ? What room size do you need ?

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Re: [openstack-dev] [ptg] Dublin PTG proposed track schedule

[Luke Hinds]

On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 2:11 PM, Thierry Carrez 
wrote:

> Thierry Carrez wrote:
> > Here is the proposed pre-allocated track schedule for the Dublin PTG:
> >
> > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRmqAAQZA1rIzlNJpVp-X60-
> z6jMn_95BKWtf0csGT9LkDharY-mppI25KjiuRasmK413MxXcoSU7ki/
> pubhtml?gid=1374855307=true
>
> Following feedback I made small adjustments to Kuryr and
> OpenStack-Charms allocations. The track schedule is about to be
> published on the event website, so now is your last chance to signal
> critical issues with it!
>
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Hi Thierry,

I had been monitoring for PTG room allocations, but I missed this email
which was the important one.

The security SIG plans to meet at the PTG to discuss several topics. I am
to late to get our inclusion?

Luke
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Re: [openstack-dev] [ptg] Dublin PTG proposed track schedule

[Thierry Carrez]

Thierry Carrez wrote:
> Here is the proposed pre-allocated track schedule for the Dublin PTG:
> 
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRmqAAQZA1rIzlNJpVp-X60-z6jMn_95BKWtf0csGT9LkDharY-mppI25KjiuRasmK413MxXcoSU7ki/pubhtml?gid=1374855307=true

Following feedback I made small adjustments to Kuryr and
OpenStack-Charms allocations. The track schedule is about to be
published on the event website, so now is your last chance to signal
critical issues with it!

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Re: [openstack-dev] [ptg] Dublin PTG proposed track schedule

[James Page]

Hi Thierry

On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 at 10:20 Thierry Carrez  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> Here is the proposed pre-allocated track schedule for the Dublin PTG:
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRmqAAQZA1rIzlNJpVp-X60-z6jMn_95BKWtf0csGT9LkDharY-mppI25KjiuRasmK413MxXcoSU7ki/pubhtml?gid=1374855307=true
>
> The proposed allocation takes into account the estimated group size and
> number of days that was communicated to Kendall and I by the team PTL.
> We'd like to publish this schedule on the event website ASAP, so please
> check that it still matches your needs (number of days, room size vs.
> expected attendance) and does not create too many conflicts. There are
> lots of constraints, so we can't promise we'll accommodate your remarks,
> but we'll do our best.
>

OpenStack Charms team preference would be to have our dedicated room
Wed/Thurs; in Denver we participated in some of the cross projects
discussions such as fast forward upgrades, and I'd not want to have to
fragment our time as a team to accommodate that if possible please!

Cheers

James
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Re: [openstack-dev] [ptg] Dublin PTG proposed track schedule

[Thierry Carrez]

Matthew Thode wrote:
> On 18-01-18 11:20:21, Thierry Carrez wrote:
>> [...]
>> You'll also notice that some teams (in orange below the table in above
>> link) do not have pre-allocated slots. One key difference this time
>> around is that we set aside a larger number of rooms and meeting spots
>> for dynamically scheduling tracks. The idea is to avoid pre-allocating
>> smaller tracks to a specific time slot that might or might not create
>> conflicts, and let that team book a space at a time that makes the most
>> sense for them, while the event happens. This dynamic booking will be
>> done through the PTGbot.
>>
>> So the unscheduled teams (in orange) are expected to take advantage of
>> this flexibility and schedule themselves during the event. This
>> flexibility is not limited to those orange teams: other teams may want
>> to meet for more than their pre-allocated time slots, and can book extra
>> space as well. For example if you are on the First Contact SIG and
>> realize on Tuesday afternoon that you would like to continue the
>> discussions on Friday morning, it's easy to extend your track to a time
>> slot there.
>> [...]
> 
> As one of the teams in orange, what specific steps, if any, do we need to
> take to schedule a specific time/place for a meeting?

Two options.

If you already know for sure that you want to meet at a specific time on
Monday, Tuesday or Friday, we can pre-allocate you a slot.

Or you can come to the event, see who from the team is around, discuss
what their schedule looks like and decide when/where would make the most
sense to meet. Then you look at the list of bookable rooms and time
slots and pick the one you prefer. Tracks scheduled that way will appear
on the PTGbot together with pre-allocated tracks.

To book a slot, you will use the new PTGbot 'book' command. See:
https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/ptgbot/tree/README.rst#n64

Given how difficult it is to predict conflicts, my advice would be to
use the latter option and decide on the spot.

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Re: [openstack-dev] [ptg] Dublin PTG proposed track schedule

[Emilien Macchi]

On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 2:20 AM, Thierry Carrez  wrote:
[...]
> We'd like to publish this schedule on the event website ASAP, so please
> check that it still matches your needs (number of days, room size vs.
> expected attendance) and does not create too many conflicts. [...]

ack & works for us (TripleO).
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Re: [openstack-dev] [ptg] Dublin PTG proposed track schedule

[Matthew Thode]

On 18-01-18 11:20:21, Thierry Carrez wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> Here is the proposed pre-allocated track schedule for the Dublin PTG:
> 
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRmqAAQZA1rIzlNJpVp-X60-z6jMn_95BKWtf0csGT9LkDharY-mppI25KjiuRasmK413MxXcoSU7ki/pubhtml?gid=1374855307=true
> 
> You'll also notice that some teams (in orange below the table in above
> link) do not have pre-allocated slots. One key difference this time
> around is that we set aside a larger number of rooms and meeting spots
> for dynamically scheduling tracks. The idea is to avoid pre-allocating
> smaller tracks to a specific time slot that might or might not create
> conflicts, and let that team book a space at a time that makes the most
> sense for them, while the event happens. This dynamic booking will be
> done through the PTGbot.
> 
> So the unscheduled teams (in orange) are expected to take advantage of
> this flexibility and schedule themselves during the event. This
> flexibility is not limited to those orange teams: other teams may want
> to meet for more than their pre-allocated time slots, and can book extra
> space as well. For example if you are on the First Contact SIG and
> realize on Tuesday afternoon that you would like to continue the
> discussions on Friday morning, it's easy to extend your track to a time
> slot there.
> 
> Note that this system also replaces the old ethercalc-scheduled
> "reservable rooms". If a group of people forms around a specific issue
> and wants to discuss it, they can ask for their own additional "track"
> and schedule it dynamically as well.
> 
> Finally, you'll notice we have extra space set aside on Monday-Tuesday
> to discuss "hot" last-minute cross-project issues -- if you have ideas
> of topics that we need to discuss in-person, please let us know.
> 

As one of the teams in orange, what specific steps, if any, do we need to
take to schedule a specific time/place for a meeting?

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