Re: [openstack-dev] [savanna] Program name and Mission statement

2013-09-16 Thread Matthew Farrellee
IMHO, Big Data is even more nebulous and currently being pulled in many 
directions. Hadoop-as-a-Service may be too narrow. So, something in 
between, such as Data Processing, is a good balance.


Best,


matt

On 09/13/2013 08:37 AM, Abhishek Lahiri wrote:

IMHO data processing is too board , it makes more sense to clarify this
program as big data as a service or simply openstack-Hadoop-as-a-service.

Thanks  Regards
Abhishek Lahiri

On Sep 12, 2013, at 9:13 PM, Nirmal Ranganathan rnir...@gmail.com
mailto:rnir...@gmail.com wrote:





On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 8:39 AM, Erik Bergenholtz
ebergenho...@hortonworks.com mailto:ebergenho...@hortonworks.com
wrote:


On Sep 10, 2013, at 8:50 PM, Jon Maron jma...@hortonworks.com
mailto:jma...@hortonworks.com wrote:


Openstack Big Data Platform


On Sep 10, 2013, at 8:39 PM, David Scott
david.sc...@cloudscaling.com
mailto:david.sc...@cloudscaling.com wrote:


I vote for 'Open Stack Data'


On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Zhongyue Luo
zhongyue@intel.com mailto:zhongyue@intel.com wrote:

Why not OpenStack MapReduce? I think that pretty much says
it all?


On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:54 AM, Glen Campbell
g...@glenc.io mailto:g...@glenc.io wrote:

performant isn't a word. Or, if it is, it means
having performance. I think you mean high-performance.


On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Matthew Farrellee
m...@redhat.com mailto:m...@redhat.com wrote:

Rough cut -

Program: OpenStack Data Processing
Mission: To provide the OpenStack community with an
open, cutting edge, performant and scalable data
processing stack and associated management interfaces.



Proposing a slightly different mission:

To provide a simple, reliable and repeatable mechanism by which to
deploy Hadoop and related Big Data projects, including management,
monitoring and processing mechanisms driving further adoption of
OpenStack.



+1. I liked the data processing aspect as well, since EDP api directly
relates to that, maybe a combination of both.




On 09/10/2013 09:26 AM, Sergey Lukjanov wrote:

It sounds too broad IMO. Looks like we need to
define Mission Statement
first.

Sincerely yours,
Sergey Lukjanov
Savanna Technical Lead
Mirantis Inc.

On Sep 10, 2013, at 17:09, Alexander Kuznetsov
akuznet...@mirantis.com
mailto:akuznet...@mirantis.com
mailto:akuznetsov@mirantis.__com
mailto:akuznet...@mirantis.com wrote:

My suggestion OpenStack Data Processing.


On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Sergey Lukjanov
slukja...@mirantis.com
mailto:slukja...@mirantis.com
mailto:slukja...@mirantis.com
mailto:slukja...@mirantis.com__ wrote:

Hi folks,

due to the Incubator Application we
should prepare Program name
and Mission statement for Savanna, so, I
want to start mailing
thread about it.

Please, provide any ideas here.

P.S. List of existing programs:
https://wiki.openstack.org/__wiki/Programs
https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Programs
P.P.S.
https://wiki.openstack.org/__wiki/Governance/NewPrograms
https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/NewPrograms

Sincerely yours,
Sergey Lukjanov
Savanna Technical Lead
Mirantis Inc.



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Re: [openstack-dev] [savanna] Program name and Mission statement

2013-09-16 Thread Mike Spreitzer
data processing is surely a superset of big data.  Either, by itself, 
is way too vague.  But the wording that many people favor, which I will 
quote again, uses the vague term in a qualified way that makes it 
appropriately specific, IMHO.  Here is the wording again:

``To provide a simple, reliable and repeatable mechanism by which to 
deploy Hadoop and related Big Data projects, including management, 
monitoring and processing mechanisms driving further adoption of 
OpenStack.''

I think that saying related Big Data projects after Hadoop is fairly 
clear.  OTOH, I would not mind replacing Hadoop and related Big Data 
projects with the Hadoop ecosystem.

Regards,
Mike

Matthew Farrellee m...@redhat.com wrote on 09/16/2013 02:39:20 PM:

 From: Matthew Farrellee m...@redhat.com
 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List 
openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org, 
 Date: 09/16/2013 02:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [savanna] Program name and Mission 
statement
 
 IMHO, Big Data is even more nebulous and currently being pulled in many 
 directions. Hadoop-as-a-Service may be too narrow. So, something in 
 between, such as Data Processing, is a good balance.
 
 Best,
 
 
 matt
 
 On 09/13/2013 08:37 AM, Abhishek Lahiri wrote:
  IMHO data processing is too board , it makes more sense to clarify 
this
  program as big data as a service or simply 
openstack-Hadoop-as-a-service.
 
  Thanks  Regards
  Abhishek Lahiri
 
  On Sep 12, 2013, at 9:13 PM, Nirmal Ranganathan rnir...@gmail.com
  mailto:rnir...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 
  On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 8:39 AM, Erik Bergenholtz
  ebergenho...@hortonworks.com mailto:ebergenho...@hortonworks.com
  wrote:
 
 
  On Sep 10, 2013, at 8:50 PM, Jon Maron jma...@hortonworks.com
  mailto:jma...@hortonworks.com wrote:
 
  Openstack Big Data Platform
 
 
  On Sep 10, 2013, at 8:39 PM, David Scott
  david.sc...@cloudscaling.com
  mailto:david.sc...@cloudscaling.com wrote:
 
  I vote for 'Open Stack Data'
 
 
  On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Zhongyue Luo
  zhongyue@intel.com mailto:zhongyue@intel.com wrote:
 
  Why not OpenStack MapReduce? I think that pretty much 
says
  it all?
 
 
  On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:54 AM, Glen Campbell
  g...@glenc.io mailto:g...@glenc.io wrote:
 
  performant isn't a word. Or, if it is, it means
  having performance. I think you mean 
high-performance.
 
 
  On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Matthew Farrellee
  m...@redhat.com mailto:m...@redhat.com wrote:
 
  Rough cut -
 
  Program: OpenStack Data Processing
  Mission: To provide the OpenStack community with an
  open, cutting edge, performant and scalable data
  processing stack and associated management 
interfaces.
 
 
  Proposing a slightly different mission:
 
  To provide a simple, reliable and repeatable mechanism by which 
to
  deploy Hadoop and related Big Data projects, including 
management,
  monitoring and processing mechanisms driving further adoption of
  OpenStack.
 
 
 
  +1. I liked the data processing aspect as well, since EDP api 
directly
  relates to that, maybe a combination of both.
 
 
 
  On 09/10/2013 09:26 AM, Sergey Lukjanov wrote:
 
  It sounds too broad IMO. Looks like we need to
  define Mission Statement
  first.
 
  Sincerely yours,
  Sergey Lukjanov
  Savanna Technical Lead
  Mirantis Inc.
 
  On Sep 10, 2013, at 17:09, Alexander Kuznetsov
  akuznet...@mirantis.com
  mailto:akuznet...@mirantis.com
  mailto:akuznetsov@mirantis.__com
  mailto:akuznet...@mirantis.com wrote:
 
  My suggestion OpenStack Data Processing.
 
 
  On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Sergey 
Lukjanov
  slukja...@mirantis.com
  mailto:slukja...@mirantis.com
  mailto:slukja...@mirantis.com
  mailto:slukja...@mirantis.com__ wrote:
 
  Hi folks,
 
  due to the Incubator Application we
  should prepare Program name
  and Mission statement for Savanna, so, 
I
  want to start mailing
  thread about it.
 
  Please, provide any ideas here.
 
  P.S. List of existing programs:
  https://wiki.openstack.org/__wiki/Programs
  https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Programs
  P.P.S.
  https

Re: [openstack-dev] [savanna] Program name and Mission statement

2013-09-16 Thread Alexander Kuznetsov
Another variant *Big Data Processing*. This mission more precise reflects
the Savanna nature as just Data Processing. Also, this name is less
confusing as just Data Processing.


On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 12:11 AM, Mike Spreitzer mspre...@us.ibm.comwrote:

 data processing is surely a superset of big data.  Either, by itself,
 is way too vague.  But the wording that many people favor, which I will
 quote again, uses the vague term in a qualified way that makes it
 appropriately specific, IMHO.  Here is the wording again:

 ``To provide a simple, reliable and repeatable mechanism by which to
 deploy Hadoop and related Big Data projects, including management,
 monitoring and processing mechanisms driving further adoption of
 OpenStack.''

 I think that saying related Big Data projects after Hadoop is fairly
 clear.  OTOH, I would not mind replacing Hadoop and related Big Data
 projects with the Hadoop ecosystem.

 Regards,
 Mike

 Matthew Farrellee m...@redhat.com wrote on 09/16/2013 02:39:20 PM:

  From: Matthew Farrellee m...@redhat.com
  To: OpenStack Development Mailing List 
 openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org,
  Date: 09/16/2013 02:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [savanna] Program name and Mission statement
 
  IMHO, Big Data is even more nebulous and currently being pulled in many
  directions. Hadoop-as-a-Service may be too narrow. So, something in
  between, such as Data Processing, is a good balance.
 
  Best,
 
 
  matt
 
  On 09/13/2013 08:37 AM, Abhishek Lahiri wrote:
   IMHO data processing is too board , it makes more sense to clarify this
   program as big data as a service or simply
 openstack-Hadoop-as-a-service.
  
   Thanks  Regards
   Abhishek Lahiri
  
   On Sep 12, 2013, at 9:13 PM, Nirmal Ranganathan rnir...@gmail.com
   mailto:rnir...@gmail.com rnir...@gmail.com wrote:
  
  
  
  
   On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 8:39 AM, Erik Bergenholtz
   ebergenho...@hortonworks.com 
   mailto:ebergenho...@hortonworks.comebergenho...@hortonworks.com
 
   wrote:
  
  
   On Sep 10, 2013, at 8:50 PM, Jon Maron jma...@hortonworks.com
   mailto:jma...@hortonworks.com jma...@hortonworks.com wrote:
  
   Openstack Big Data Platform
  
  
   On Sep 10, 2013, at 8:39 PM, David Scott
   david.sc...@cloudscaling.com
   mailto:david.sc...@cloudscaling.comdavid.sc...@cloudscaling.com
 wrote:
  
   I vote for 'Open Stack Data'
  
  
   On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Zhongyue Luo
   zhongyue@intel.com 
   mailto:zhongyue@intel.comzhongyue@intel.com
 wrote:
  
   Why not OpenStack MapReduce? I think that pretty much says
   it all?
  
  
   On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:54 AM, Glen Campbell
   g...@glenc.io mailto:g...@glenc.io g...@glenc.io
 wrote:
  
   performant isn't a word. Or, if it is, it means
   having performance. I think you mean
 high-performance.
  
  
   On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Matthew Farrellee
   m...@redhat.com mailto:m...@redhat.comm...@redhat.com
 wrote:
  
   Rough cut -
  
   Program: OpenStack Data Processing
   Mission: To provide the OpenStack community with an
   open, cutting edge, performant and scalable data
   processing stack and associated management
 interfaces.
  
  
   Proposing a slightly different mission:
  
   To provide a simple, reliable and repeatable mechanism by which to
   deploy Hadoop and related Big Data projects, including management,
   monitoring and processing mechanisms driving further adoption of
   OpenStack.
  
  
  
   +1. I liked the data processing aspect as well, since EDP api directly
   relates to that, maybe a combination of both.
  
  
  
   On 09/10/2013 09:26 AM, Sergey Lukjanov wrote:
  
   It sounds too broad IMO. Looks like we need to
   define Mission Statement
   first.
  
   Sincerely yours,
   Sergey Lukjanov
   Savanna Technical Lead
   Mirantis Inc.
  
   On Sep 10, 2013, at 17:09, Alexander Kuznetsov
   akuznet...@mirantis.com
   
   mailto:akuznet...@mirantis.comakuznet...@mirantis.com
 
   
   mailto:akuznetsov@mirantis.__comakuznetsov@mirantis.__com
   
   mailto:akuznet...@mirantis.comakuznet...@mirantis.com
 wrote:
  
   My suggestion OpenStack Data Processing.
  
  
   On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Sergey
 Lukjanov
   slukja...@mirantis.com
   
   mailto:slukja...@mirantis.comslukja...@mirantis.com
 
   
   mailto:slukja...@mirantis.comslukja...@mirantis.com
   
   mailto:slukja...@mirantis.comslukja

Re: [openstack-dev] [savanna] Program name and Mission statement

2013-09-12 Thread Nirmal Ranganathan
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 8:39 AM, Erik Bergenholtz 
ebergenho...@hortonworks.com wrote:


 On Sep 10, 2013, at 8:50 PM, Jon Maron jma...@hortonworks.com wrote:

 Openstack Big Data Platform


 On Sep 10, 2013, at 8:39 PM, David Scott david.sc...@cloudscaling.com
 wrote:

 I vote for 'Open Stack Data'


 On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Zhongyue Luo zhongyue@intel.comwrote:

 Why not OpenStack MapReduce? I think that pretty much says it all?


 On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:54 AM, Glen Campbell g...@glenc.io wrote:

 performant isn't a word. Or, if it is, it means having performance.
 I think you mean high-performance.


 On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Matthew Farrellee m...@redhat.comwrote:

 Rough cut -

 Program: OpenStack Data Processing
 Mission: To provide the OpenStack community with an open, cutting edge,
 performant and scalable data processing stack and associated management
 interfaces.


 Proposing a slightly different mission:

 To provide a simple, reliable and repeatable mechanism by which to deploy
 Hadoop and related Big Data projects, including management, monitoring and
 processing mechanisms driving further adoption of OpenStack.


+1. I liked the data processing aspect as well, since EDP api directly
relates to that, maybe a combination of both.



 On 09/10/2013 09:26 AM, Sergey Lukjanov wrote:

 It sounds too broad IMO. Looks like we need to define Mission Statement
 first.

 Sincerely yours,
 Sergey Lukjanov
 Savanna Technical Lead
 Mirantis Inc.

 On Sep 10, 2013, at 17:09, Alexander Kuznetsov 
 akuznet...@mirantis.com
 mailto:akuznetsov@mirantis.**com akuznet...@mirantis.com wrote:

  My suggestion OpenStack Data Processing.


 On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Sergey Lukjanov
 slukja...@mirantis.com mailto:slukja...@mirantis.com** wrote:

 Hi folks,

 due to the Incubator Application we should prepare Program name
 and Mission statement for Savanna, so, I want to start mailing
 thread about it.

 Please, provide any ideas here.

 P.S. List of existing programs:
 
 https://wiki.openstack.org/**wiki/Programshttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Programs
 P.P.S. 
 https://wiki.openstack.org/**wiki/Governance/NewProgramshttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/NewPrograms

 Sincerely yours,
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 Savanna Technical Lead
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Re: [openstack-dev] [savanna] Program name and Mission statement

2013-09-11 Thread Dmitry Mescheryakov
Mike, and if you looked up 'compute' in dictionary, you would never guess
what OpenStack Compute does :-).

I think that 'Data Processing' is a good name which in short describes what
Savanna is going to be. The name 'MapReduce' for the program does not cover
whole functionality provided by Savanna. Todays Hadoop distributions
include not only MapReduce frameworks, but also a bunch of other products,
not all of which are based on MapReduce. In fact the core of Hadoop 2.0,
YARN, was built with idea of supporting other, non-MapReduce frameworks.
For instance Twitter Storm was ported on YARN recently.

I am also +1 on Matthew's mission proposal:
 Mission: To provide the OpenStack community with an open, cutting edge,
performant and scalable data processing stack and associated management
interfaces.

Dmitry

2013/9/10 Mike Spreitzer mspre...@us.ibm.com

 A quick dictionary lookup of data processing yields the following.  I
 wonder if you mean something more specific.

 data processing |ˈˌdædə ˈprɑsɛsɪŋ|
 noun
 a series of operations on data, esp. by a computer, to retrieve,
 transform, or classify information.



 From:Matthew Farrellee m...@redhat.com
 To:OpenStack Development Mailing List 
 openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org,
 Date:09/10/2013 09:53 AM
 Subject:Re: [openstack-dev] [savanna] Program name and Mission
 statement
 --



 Rough cut -

 Program: OpenStack Data Processing
 Mission: To provide the OpenStack community with an open, cutting edge,
 performant and scalable data processing stack and associated management
 interfaces.

 On 09/10/2013 09:26 AM, Sergey Lukjanov wrote:
  It sounds too broad IMO. Looks like we need to define Mission Statement
  first.
 
  Sincerely yours,
  Sergey Lukjanov
  Savanna Technical Lead
  Mirantis Inc.
 
  On Sep 10, 2013, at 17:09, Alexander Kuznetsov akuznet...@mirantis.com
  mailto:akuznet...@mirantis.com akuznet...@mirantis.com wrote:
 
  My suggestion OpenStack Data Processing.
 
 
  On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Sergey Lukjanov
  slukja...@mirantis.com 
  mailto:slukja...@mirantis.comslukja...@mirantis.com
 wrote:
 
  Hi folks,
 
  due to the Incubator Application we should prepare Program name
  and Mission statement for Savanna, so, I want to start mailing
  thread about it.
 
  Please, provide any ideas here.
 
  P.S. List of existing programs:
  https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Programs
  P.P.S. https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/NewPrograms
 
  Sincerely yours,
  Sergey Lukjanov
  Savanna Technical Lead
  Mirantis Inc.
 
 
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Re: [openstack-dev] [savanna] Program name and Mission statement

2013-09-11 Thread Jon Maron

On Sep 10, 2013, at 9:42 PM, Mike Spreitzer mspre...@us.ibm.com wrote:

 Jon Maron jma...@hortonworks.com wrote on 09/10/2013 08:50:23 PM:
 
  From: Jon Maron jma...@hortonworks.com 
  To: OpenStack Development Mailing List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org, 
  Cc: OpenStack Development Mailing List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org 
  Date: 09/10/2013 08:55 PM 
  Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [savanna] Program name and Mission statement 
  
  Openstack Big Data Platform 
 
 Let's see if you mean that.  Does this project aim to cover big data things 
 besides MapReduce?  Can you give examples of other things that are in scope? 

Hive, Pig, data storage, oozie etc

 
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Re: [openstack-dev] [savanna] Program name and Mission statement

2013-09-11 Thread Erik Bergenholtz

On Sep 11, 2013, at 9:19 AM, Jon Maron jma...@hortonworks.com wrote:

 
 On Sep 10, 2013, at 9:42 PM, Mike Spreitzer mspre...@us.ibm.com wrote:
 
 Jon Maron jma...@hortonworks.com wrote on 09/10/2013 08:50:23 PM:
 
  From: Jon Maron jma...@hortonworks.com 
  To: OpenStack Development Mailing List 
  openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org, 
  Cc: OpenStack Development Mailing List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org 
  Date: 09/10/2013 08:55 PM 
  Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [savanna] Program name and Mission statement 
  
  Openstack Big Data Platform 
 
 Let's see if you mean that.  Does this project aim to cover big data things 
 besides MapReduce?  Can you give examples of other things that are in scope? 
 
 Hive, Pig, data storage, oozie etc

Adding a few items that are on the list, including YARN, Sqoop/2, HBase, and 
Hue. Other vendors will likely want to add additional services that pertain to 
their hadoop distro. i.e. SOLR, Impala etc.



 
 
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Re: [openstack-dev] [savanna] Program name and Mission statement

2013-09-11 Thread Erik Bergenholtz

On Sep 10, 2013, at 8:50 PM, Jon Maron jma...@hortonworks.com wrote:

 Openstack Big Data Platform
 
 
 On Sep 10, 2013, at 8:39 PM, David Scott david.sc...@cloudscaling.com wrote:
 
 I vote for 'Open Stack Data'
 
 
 On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Zhongyue Luo zhongyue@intel.com wrote:
 Why not OpenStack MapReduce? I think that pretty much says it all?
 
 
 On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:54 AM, Glen Campbell g...@glenc.io wrote:
 performant isn't a word. Or, if it is, it means having performance. I 
 think you mean high-performance.
 
 
 On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Matthew Farrellee m...@redhat.com wrote:
 Rough cut -
 
 Program: OpenStack Data Processing
 Mission: To provide the OpenStack community with an open, cutting edge, 
 performant and scalable data processing stack and associated management 
 interfaces.

Proposing a slightly different mission:

To provide a simple, reliable and repeatable mechanism by which to deploy 
Hadoop and related Big Data projects, including management, monitoring and 
processing mechanisms driving further adoption of OpenStack.


 
 
 On 09/10/2013 09:26 AM, Sergey Lukjanov wrote:
 It sounds too broad IMO. Looks like we need to define Mission Statement
 first.
 
 Sincerely yours,
 Sergey Lukjanov
 Savanna Technical Lead
 Mirantis Inc.
 
 On Sep 10, 2013, at 17:09, Alexander Kuznetsov akuznet...@mirantis.com
 mailto:akuznet...@mirantis.com wrote:
 
 My suggestion OpenStack Data Processing.
 
 
 On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Sergey Lukjanov
 slukja...@mirantis.com mailto:slukja...@mirantis.com wrote:
 
 Hi folks,
 
 due to the Incubator Application we should prepare Program name
 and Mission statement for Savanna, so, I want to start mailing
 thread about it.
 
 Please, provide any ideas here.
 
 P.S. List of existing programs:
 https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Programs
 P.P.S. https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/NewPrograms
 
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Re: [openstack-dev] [savanna] Program name and Mission statement

2013-09-11 Thread Mike Spreitzer
 To provide a simple, reliable and repeatable mechanism by which to 
 deploy Hadoop and related Big Data projects, including management, 
 monitoring and processing mechanisms driving further adoption of 
OpenStack.

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Re: [openstack-dev] [savanna] Program name and Mission statement

2013-09-11 Thread Andrei Savu
+1

I guess this will also clarify how Savanna relates to other projects like
OpenStack Trove.

-- Andrei Savu

On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Mike Spreitzer mspre...@us.ibm.com wrote:

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Re: [openstack-dev] [savanna] Program name and Mission statement

2013-09-11 Thread Michael Basnight
On Sep 11, 2013, at 8:42 AM, Andrei Savu wrote:

 +1 
 
 I guess this will also clarify how Savanna relates to other projects like 
 OpenStack Trove. 

Yes the conversations around Trove+Savanna will be fun at the summit! I see 
overlap between our missions ;)

 
 -- Andrei Savu
 
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Re: [openstack-dev] [savanna] Program name and Mission statement

2013-09-11 Thread Matthew Farrellee

You caught me trying to be fancy!

On 09/10/2013 03:54 PM, Glen Campbell wrote:

performant isn't a word. Or, if it is, it means having performance.
I think you mean high-performance.


On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Matthew Farrellee m...@redhat.com
mailto:m...@redhat.com wrote:

Rough cut -

Program: OpenStack Data Processing
Mission: To provide the OpenStack community with an open, cutting
edge, performant and scalable data processing stack and associated
management interfaces.


On 09/10/2013 09:26 AM, Sergey Lukjanov wrote:

It sounds too broad IMO. Looks like we need to define Mission
Statement
first.

Sincerely yours,
Sergey Lukjanov
Savanna Technical Lead
Mirantis Inc.

On Sep 10, 2013, at 17:09, Alexander Kuznetsov
akuznet...@mirantis.com mailto:akuznet...@mirantis.com
mailto:akuznetsov@mirantis.__com
mailto:akuznet...@mirantis.com wrote:

My suggestion OpenStack Data Processing.


On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Sergey Lukjanov
slukja...@mirantis.com mailto:slukja...@mirantis.com
mailto:slukja...@mirantis.com
mailto:slukja...@mirantis.com__ wrote:

 Hi folks,

 due to the Incubator Application we should prepare
Program name
 and Mission statement for Savanna, so, I want to start
mailing
 thread about it.

 Please, provide any ideas here.

 P.S. List of existing programs:
https://wiki.openstack.org/__wiki/Programs
https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Programs
 P.P.S.
https://wiki.openstack.org/__wiki/Governance/NewPrograms
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Re: [openstack-dev] [savanna] Program name and Mission statement

2013-09-11 Thread Matthew Farrellee

That sounds quite good.

Best,


matt

On 09/11/2013 11:42 AM, Andrei Savu wrote:

+1

I guess this will also clarify how Savanna relates to other projects
like OpenStack Trove.

-- Andrei Savu

On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Mike Spreitzer mspre...@us.ibm.com
mailto:mspre...@us.ibm.com wrote:

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Re: [openstack-dev] [savanna] Program name and Mission statement

2013-09-11 Thread John Speidel

+1

On 9/11/13 1:13 PM, Matthew Farrellee wrote:

That sounds quite good.

Best,


matt

On 09/11/2013 11:42 AM, Andrei Savu wrote:

+1

I guess this will also clarify how Savanna relates to other projects
like OpenStack Trove.

-- Andrei Savu

On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Mike Spreitzer mspre...@us.ibm.com
mailto:mspre...@us.ibm.com wrote:

  To provide a simple, reliable and repeatable mechanism by 
which to
  deploy Hadoop and related Big Data projects, including 
management,

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OpenStack.

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Re: [openstack-dev] [savanna] Program name and Mission statement

2013-09-10 Thread Alexander Kuznetsov
My suggestion OpenStack Data Processing.


On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Sergey Lukjanov slukja...@mirantis.comwrote:

 Hi folks,

 due to the Incubator Application we should prepare Program name and
 Mission statement for Savanna, so, I want to start mailing thread about it.

 Please, provide any ideas here.

 P.S. List of existing programs: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Programs
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Re: [openstack-dev] [savanna] Program name and Mission statement

2013-09-10 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
It sounds too broad IMO. Looks like we need to define Mission Statement first.

Sincerely yours,
Sergey Lukjanov
Savanna Technical Lead
Mirantis Inc.

On Sep 10, 2013, at 17:09, Alexander Kuznetsov akuznet...@mirantis.com wrote:

 My suggestion OpenStack Data Processing. 
 
 
 On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Sergey Lukjanov slukja...@mirantis.com 
 wrote:
 Hi folks,
 
 due to the Incubator Application we should prepare Program name and Mission 
 statement for Savanna, so, I want to start mailing thread about it.
 
 Please, provide any ideas here.
 
 P.S. List of existing programs: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Programs
 P.P.S. https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/NewPrograms
 
 Sincerely yours,
 Sergey Lukjanov
 Savanna Technical Lead
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Re: [openstack-dev] [savanna] Program name and Mission statement

2013-09-10 Thread Matthew Farrellee

Rough cut -

Program: OpenStack Data Processing
Mission: To provide the OpenStack community with an open, cutting edge, 
performant and scalable data processing stack and associated management 
interfaces.


On 09/10/2013 09:26 AM, Sergey Lukjanov wrote:

It sounds too broad IMO. Looks like we need to define Mission Statement
first.

Sincerely yours,
Sergey Lukjanov
Savanna Technical Lead
Mirantis Inc.

On Sep 10, 2013, at 17:09, Alexander Kuznetsov akuznet...@mirantis.com
mailto:akuznet...@mirantis.com wrote:


My suggestion OpenStack Data Processing.


On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Sergey Lukjanov
slukja...@mirantis.com mailto:slukja...@mirantis.com wrote:

Hi folks,

due to the Incubator Application we should prepare Program name
and Mission statement for Savanna, so, I want to start mailing
thread about it.

Please, provide any ideas here.

P.S. List of existing programs:
https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Programs
P.P.S. https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/NewPrograms

Sincerely yours,
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Savanna Technical Lead
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Re: [openstack-dev] [savanna] Program name and Mission statement

2013-09-10 Thread Mike Spreitzer
A quick dictionary lookup of data processing yields the following.  I 
wonder if you mean something more specific.

data processing |ˈˌdædə ˈprɑsɛsɪŋ|
noun
a series of operations on data, esp. by a computer, to retrieve, 
transform, or classify information.



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To: OpenStack Development Mailing List 
openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org, 
Date:   09/10/2013 09:53 AM
Subject:Re: [openstack-dev] [savanna] Program name and Mission 
statement



Rough cut -

Program: OpenStack Data Processing
Mission: To provide the OpenStack community with an open, cutting edge, 
performant and scalable data processing stack and associated management 
interfaces.

On 09/10/2013 09:26 AM, Sergey Lukjanov wrote:
 It sounds too broad IMO. Looks like we need to define Mission Statement
 first.

 Sincerely yours,
 Sergey Lukjanov
 Savanna Technical Lead
 Mirantis Inc.

 On Sep 10, 2013, at 17:09, Alexander Kuznetsov akuznet...@mirantis.com
 mailto:akuznet...@mirantis.com wrote:

 My suggestion OpenStack Data Processing.


 On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Sergey Lukjanov
 slukja...@mirantis.com mailto:slukja...@mirantis.com wrote:

 Hi folks,

 due to the Incubator Application we should prepare Program name
 and Mission statement for Savanna, so, I want to start mailing
 thread about it.

 Please, provide any ideas here.

 P.S. List of existing programs:
 https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Programs
 P.P.S. https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/NewPrograms

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Re: [openstack-dev] [savanna] Program name and Mission statement

2013-09-10 Thread Ilya Elterman
+1 for OpenStack Data Processing and

Mission: To provide the OpenStack community with an open, cutting edge,
 performant and scalable data processing stack and associated management
 interfaces.



On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 6:47 AM, Matthew Farrellee m...@redhat.com wrote:

 Rough cut -

 Program: OpenStack Data Processing
 Mission: To provide the OpenStack community with an open, cutting edge,
 performant and scalable data processing stack and associated management
 interfaces.


 On 09/10/2013 09:26 AM, Sergey Lukjanov wrote:

 It sounds too broad IMO. Looks like we need to define Mission Statement
 first.

 Sincerely yours,
 Sergey Lukjanov
 Savanna Technical Lead
 Mirantis Inc.

 On Sep 10, 2013, at 17:09, Alexander Kuznetsov akuznet...@mirantis.com
 mailto:akuznetsov@mirantis.**com akuznet...@mirantis.com wrote:

  My suggestion OpenStack Data Processing.


 On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Sergey Lukjanov
 slukja...@mirantis.com mailto:slukja...@mirantis.com** wrote:

 Hi folks,

 due to the Incubator Application we should prepare Program name
 and Mission statement for Savanna, so, I want to start mailing
 thread about it.

 Please, provide any ideas here.

 P.S. List of existing programs:
 
 https://wiki.openstack.org/**wiki/Programshttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Programs
 P.P.S. 
 https://wiki.openstack.org/**wiki/Governance/NewProgramshttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/NewPrograms

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Re: [openstack-dev] [savanna] Program name and Mission statement

2013-09-10 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
+1 for both program name and mission statement

Sincerely yours,
Sergey Lukjanov
Savanna Technical Lead
Mirantis Inc.

On Sep 10, 2013, at 21:22, Ilya Elterman ielter...@mirantis.com wrote:

 +1 for OpenStack Data Processing and
 
 Mission: To provide the OpenStack community with an open, cutting edge, 
 performant and scalable data processing stack and associated management 
 interfaces.
 
 
 On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 6:47 AM, Matthew Farrellee m...@redhat.com wrote:
 Rough cut -
 
 Program: OpenStack Data Processing
 Mission: To provide the OpenStack community with an open, cutting edge, 
 performant and scalable data processing stack and associated management 
 interfaces.
 
 
 On 09/10/2013 09:26 AM, Sergey Lukjanov wrote:
 It sounds too broad IMO. Looks like we need to define Mission Statement
 first.
 
 Sincerely yours,
 Sergey Lukjanov
 Savanna Technical Lead
 Mirantis Inc.
 
 On Sep 10, 2013, at 17:09, Alexander Kuznetsov akuznet...@mirantis.com
 mailto:akuznet...@mirantis.com wrote:
 
 My suggestion OpenStack Data Processing.
 
 
 On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Sergey Lukjanov
 slukja...@mirantis.com mailto:slukja...@mirantis.com wrote:
 
 Hi folks,
 
 due to the Incubator Application we should prepare Program name
 and Mission statement for Savanna, so, I want to start mailing
 thread about it.
 
 Please, provide any ideas here.
 
 P.S. List of existing programs:
 https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Programs
 P.P.S. https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/NewPrograms
 
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Re: [openstack-dev] [savanna] Program name and Mission statement

2013-09-10 Thread Glen Campbell
performant isn't a word. Or, if it is, it means having performance. I
think you mean high-performance.


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 Rough cut -

 Program: OpenStack Data Processing
 Mission: To provide the OpenStack community with an open, cutting edge,
 performant and scalable data processing stack and associated management
 interfaces.


 On 09/10/2013 09:26 AM, Sergey Lukjanov wrote:

 It sounds too broad IMO. Looks like we need to define Mission Statement
 first.

 Sincerely yours,
 Sergey Lukjanov
 Savanna Technical Lead
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 On Sep 10, 2013, at 17:09, Alexander Kuznetsov akuznet...@mirantis.com
 mailto:akuznetsov@mirantis.**com akuznet...@mirantis.com wrote:

  My suggestion OpenStack Data Processing.


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 Hi folks,

 due to the Incubator Application we should prepare Program name
 and Mission statement for Savanna, so, I want to start mailing
 thread about it.

 Please, provide any ideas here.

 P.S. List of existing programs:
 
 https://wiki.openstack.org/**wiki/Programshttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Programs
 P.P.S. 
 https://wiki.openstack.org/**wiki/Governance/NewProgramshttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/NewPrograms

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Re: [openstack-dev] [savanna] Program name and Mission statement

2013-09-10 Thread Zhongyue Luo
Why not OpenStack MapReduce? I think that pretty much says it all?


On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:54 AM, Glen Campbell g...@glenc.io wrote:

 performant isn't a word. Or, if it is, it means having performance. I
 think you mean high-performance.


 On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Matthew Farrellee m...@redhat.comwrote:

 Rough cut -

 Program: OpenStack Data Processing
 Mission: To provide the OpenStack community with an open, cutting edge,
 performant and scalable data processing stack and associated management
 interfaces.


 On 09/10/2013 09:26 AM, Sergey Lukjanov wrote:

 It sounds too broad IMO. Looks like we need to define Mission Statement
 first.

 Sincerely yours,
 Sergey Lukjanov
 Savanna Technical Lead
 Mirantis Inc.

 On Sep 10, 2013, at 17:09, Alexander Kuznetsov akuznet...@mirantis.com
 mailto:akuznetsov@mirantis.**com akuznet...@mirantis.com wrote:

  My suggestion OpenStack Data Processing.


 On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Sergey Lukjanov
 slukja...@mirantis.com mailto:slukja...@mirantis.com** wrote:

 Hi folks,

 due to the Incubator Application we should prepare Program name
 and Mission statement for Savanna, so, I want to start mailing
 thread about it.

 Please, provide any ideas here.

 P.S. List of existing programs:
 
 https://wiki.openstack.org/**wiki/Programshttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Programs
 P.P.S. 
 https://wiki.openstack.org/**wiki/Governance/NewProgramshttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/NewPrograms

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Re: [openstack-dev] [savanna] Program name and Mission statement

2013-09-10 Thread David Scott
I vote for 'Open Stack Data'


On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Zhongyue Luo zhongyue@intel.comwrote:

 Why not OpenStack MapReduce? I think that pretty much says it all?


 On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:54 AM, Glen Campbell g...@glenc.io wrote:

 performant isn't a word. Or, if it is, it means having performance. I
 think you mean high-performance.


 On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Matthew Farrellee m...@redhat.comwrote:

 Rough cut -

 Program: OpenStack Data Processing
 Mission: To provide the OpenStack community with an open, cutting edge,
 performant and scalable data processing stack and associated management
 interfaces.


 On 09/10/2013 09:26 AM, Sergey Lukjanov wrote:

 It sounds too broad IMO. Looks like we need to define Mission Statement
 first.

 Sincerely yours,
 Sergey Lukjanov
 Savanna Technical Lead
 Mirantis Inc.

 On Sep 10, 2013, at 17:09, Alexander Kuznetsov akuznet...@mirantis.com
 mailto:akuznetsov@mirantis.**com akuznet...@mirantis.com wrote:

  My suggestion OpenStack Data Processing.


 On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Sergey Lukjanov
 slukja...@mirantis.com mailto:slukja...@mirantis.com** wrote:

 Hi folks,

 due to the Incubator Application we should prepare Program name
 and Mission statement for Savanna, so, I want to start mailing
 thread about it.

 Please, provide any ideas here.

 P.S. List of existing programs:
 
 https://wiki.openstack.org/**wiki/Programshttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Programs
 P.P.S. 
 https://wiki.openstack.org/**wiki/Governance/NewProgramshttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/NewPrograms

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 Savanna Technical Lead
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Re: [openstack-dev] [savanna] Program name and Mission statement

2013-09-10 Thread Jon Maron
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On Sep 10, 2013, at 8:39 PM, David Scott david.sc...@cloudscaling.com wrote:

 I vote for 'Open Stack Data'
 
 
 On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Zhongyue Luo zhongyue@intel.com wrote:
 Why not OpenStack MapReduce? I think that pretty much says it all?
 
 
 On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:54 AM, Glen Campbell g...@glenc.io wrote:
 performant isn't a word. Or, if it is, it means having performance. I 
 think you mean high-performance.
 
 
 On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Matthew Farrellee m...@redhat.com wrote:
 Rough cut -
 
 Program: OpenStack Data Processing
 Mission: To provide the OpenStack community with an open, cutting edge, 
 performant and scalable data processing stack and associated management 
 interfaces.
 
 
 On 09/10/2013 09:26 AM, Sergey Lukjanov wrote:
 It sounds too broad IMO. Looks like we need to define Mission Statement
 first.
 
 Sincerely yours,
 Sergey Lukjanov
 Savanna Technical Lead
 Mirantis Inc.
 
 On Sep 10, 2013, at 17:09, Alexander Kuznetsov akuznet...@mirantis.com
 mailto:akuznet...@mirantis.com wrote:
 
 My suggestion OpenStack Data Processing.
 
 
 On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Sergey Lukjanov
 slukja...@mirantis.com mailto:slukja...@mirantis.com wrote:
 
 Hi folks,
 
 due to the Incubator Application we should prepare Program name
 and Mission statement for Savanna, so, I want to start mailing
 thread about it.
 
 Please, provide any ideas here.
 
 P.S. List of existing programs:
 https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Programs
 P.P.S. https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/NewPrograms
 
 Sincerely yours,
 Sergey Lukjanov
 Savanna Technical Lead
 Mirantis Inc.
 
 
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Re: [openstack-dev] [savanna] Program name and Mission statement

2013-09-10 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Jon Maron jma...@hortonworks.com wrote on 09/10/2013 08:50:23 PM:

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 Openstack Big Data Platform

Let's see if you mean that.  Does this project aim to cover big data 
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