Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][forum] TC Retrospective for Queens/Rocky

2018-05-31 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2018-05-31 10:31:12 +0200:
> Doug Hellmann wrote:
> > [...]
> > I'm missing details and/or whole topics. Please review the list and
> > make any updates you think are necessary.
> 
> One thing that was raised at the Board+TC+UC meeting is the idea of 
> creating a group to help with wording and communication of "help most 
> needed" list items, so that they contain more business-value explanation 
> and get more regular status updates at the Board...
> 
> If I remember correctly, Chris Price, dims and you volunteered :) I'm 
> happy to help too.
> 
> Is that something you would like to track on this document as well ?
> 

Yes, that would be a good thing to add. I also still plan to send
a summary of the meeting from my perspective.

Doug

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Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][forum] TC Retrospective for Queens/Rocky

2018-05-31 Thread Thierry Carrez

Doug Hellmann wrote:

[...]
I'm missing details and/or whole topics. Please review the list and
make any updates you think are necessary.


One thing that was raised at the Board+TC+UC meeting is the idea of 
creating a group to help with wording and communication of "help most 
needed" list items, so that they contain more business-value explanation 
and get more regular status updates at the Board...


If I remember correctly, Chris Price, dims and you volunteered :) I'm 
happy to help too.


Is that something you would like to track on this document as well ?

--
Thierry Carrez (ttx)

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Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][forum] TC Retrospective for Queens/Rocky

2018-05-30 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2018-05-29 17:26:16 -0400:

[snip]

> Chris brought up a concern about whether we have much traction on
> "doing stuff" and especially "getting things done that not everyone
> wants," Graham noted a lack of "visible impact," and Zane mentioned
> the TC vision in particular. Based on conversations last week, I
> am currently tracking a list of 20+ things the TC is working on. I
> will add the public ones to the wiki page this week as I catch up
> with my notes (remember, sometimes these things involve disputes
> that can be more smoothly handled one-on-one, so not everything
> that is going on is necessarily going to have its own email thread
> announcing it).

I have updated our tracking page in the wiki
(https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Technical_Committee_Tracker).

I listed drivers for the topics where I knew we had commitments. Several
of you raised issues, but I didn't want to volunteer anyone to work on
something just because they raised it.

I'm missing details and/or whole topics. Please review the list and
make any updates you think are necessary.

Doug

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Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][forum] TC Retrospective for Queens/Rocky

2018-05-30 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Jeremy Stanley's message of 2018-05-29 22:57:45 +:
> On 2018-05-29 17:26:16 -0400 (-0400), Doug Hellmann wrote:
> [...]
> > There was some discussion of whether the office hours themselves
> > are useful, based on the apparent lack of participation. We had
> > theories that this was a combination of bad times (meaning that TC
> > members haven't always attended) and bad platforms (meaning that
> > some parts of the community we are trying to reach may emphasize
> > other tools over IRC for real time chat). We need to look into that.
> [...]
> 
> We also had some consensus in the room on starting to use meetbot
> during office hours to highlight whatever we discussed in the
> resulting meeting minutes. I'm planning to do that at our 01:00z
> office hour (a couple hours from now) and see how it goes, though
> that timeslot in particular tends to have little or no discussion.

Thanks for remembering, and reminding me.

The minutes from the most recent office hours are at
http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tc/2018/tc.2018-05-30-01.00.html
for anyone interested in following them.

Doug

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Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][forum] TC Retrospective for Queens/Rocky

2018-05-29 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2018-05-29 17:26:16 -0400 (-0400), Doug Hellmann wrote:
[...]
> There was some discussion of whether the office hours themselves
> are useful, based on the apparent lack of participation. We had
> theories that this was a combination of bad times (meaning that TC
> members haven't always attended) and bad platforms (meaning that
> some parts of the community we are trying to reach may emphasize
> other tools over IRC for real time chat). We need to look into that.
[...]

We also had some consensus in the room on starting to use meetbot
during office hours to highlight whatever we discussed in the
resulting meeting minutes. I'm planning to do that at our 01:00z
office hour (a couple hours from now) and see how it goes, though
that timeslot in particular tends to have little or no discussion.
-- 
Jeremy Stanley


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