Re: [openstack-dev] live-snapshot/cloning of virtual machines

2013-08-31 Thread Alessandro Pilotti
On Aug 27, 2013, at 18:52 , Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.commailto:rbry...@redhat.com wrote: On 08/27/2013 10:53 AM, Alessandro Pilotti wrote: That's IMO a different story: backporting a driver is usually quite trivial as it affects only one service (nova-compute) and one interaction point with

Re: [openstack-dev] live-snapshot/cloning of virtual machines

2013-08-27 Thread Russell Bryant
On 08/26/2013 08:15 PM, Tim Smith wrote: Hi all, On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 11:49 PM, Bob Ball bob.b...@citrix.com mailto:bob.b...@citrix.com wrote: I agree with the below from a XenServer perspective. As with vmware, XenServer supports live snapshotting and creating multiple

Re: [openstack-dev] live-snapshot/cloning of virtual machines

2013-08-27 Thread Russell Bryant
On 08/27/2013 10:06 AM, Alessandro Pilotti wrote: We are also planning to implement the live snapshot feature in the Hyper-V driver during the next release cycle. I'm personally in favour of publishing the APIs in Havana, as this would provide a stable baseline at the beginning of the

Re: [openstack-dev] live-snapshot/cloning of virtual machines

2013-08-27 Thread David Scannell
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: On 08/27/2013 10:06 AM, Alessandro Pilotti wrote: We are also planning to implement the live snapshot feature in the Hyper-V driver during the next release cycle. I'm personally in favour of publishing the APIs in

Re: [openstack-dev] live-snapshot/cloning of virtual machines

2013-08-27 Thread Russell Bryant
On 08/27/2013 10:53 AM, Alessandro Pilotti wrote: That's IMO a different story: backporting a driver is usually quite trivial as it affects only one service (nova-compute) and one interaction point with Nova (the driver's interface). Between Havana and Grizzly for example, the entire Hyper-V

Re: [openstack-dev] live-snapshot/cloning of virtual machines

2013-08-27 Thread Russell Bryant
On 08/27/2013 12:04 PM, Alessandro Pilotti wrote: On Aug 27, 2013, at 18:52 , Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com mailto:rbry...@redhat.com wrote: On 08/27/2013 10:53 AM, Alessandro Pilotti wrote: That's IMO a different story: backporting a driver is usually quite trivial as it

Re: [openstack-dev] live-snapshot/cloning of virtual machines

2013-08-27 Thread Russell Bryant
On 08/27/2013 12:04 PM, Tim Smith wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com mailto:rbry...@redhat.com wrote: What about publishing the API as blacklisted by default? This way it would be available only to users that enable it explicitly, while

Re: [openstack-dev] live-snapshot/cloning of virtual machines

2013-08-27 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 12:13:49PM -0400, Russell Bryant wrote: On 08/27/2013 12:04 PM, Tim Smith wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com mailto:rbry...@redhat.com wrote: What about publishing the API as blacklisted by default? This way it

Re: [openstack-dev] live-snapshot/cloning of virtual machines

2013-08-27 Thread Dan Smith
While it's true that there won't be an in-tree driver that supports the API for this release cycle, we have a commercial driver that supports it ( https://github.com/gridcentric/cobalt). IMHO, out of tree virt drivers are completely out of scope here. We change the virt driver API at will,

Re: [openstack-dev] live-snapshot/cloning of virtual machines

2013-08-27 Thread Adin Scannell
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: IMO, to be the healthiest project we can be, we must focus on what code is actually a part of Nova. If you'd like to submit your changes for inclusion into Nova, then we can talk. That's ultimately what we're trying

Re: [openstack-dev] live-snapshot/cloning of virtual machines

2013-08-26 Thread Tim Smith
- Original Message - From: Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com To: OpenStack Development Mailing List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 5:24:59 AM Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] live-snapshot/cloning of virtual machines On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 08:28

Re: [openstack-dev] live-snapshot/cloning of virtual machines

2013-08-20 Thread Bob Ball
From: Shawn Hartsock [hartso...@vmware.com] Sent: 19 August 2013 20:59 To: Daniel P. Berrange; OpenStack Development Mailing List Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] live-snapshot/cloning of virtual machines For what it's worth... this doesn't seem too bad to me... I was planning