Re: [opensuse-factory] SUSE 10.1 sources DVD

2006-06-02 Thread jdd
Volker Kuhlmann wrote: We have two source DVDs lying around -- but as of now they didn't get pushed out to the mirrors. And I'd actually prefer to just offer .jigdo files for those, as the .src.rpms are in the ftp anyway. From a mirroring point of view, some jiggledy-scripty which downloads t

Re: [opensuse-factory] SUSE 10.1 sources DVD

2006-06-02 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> We have two source DVDs lying around -- but as of now they didn't get > pushed out to the mirrors. And I'd actually prefer to just offer .jigdo > files for those, as the .src.rpms are in the ftp anyway. From a mirroring point of view, some jiggledy-scripty which downloads the files and reconst

Re: [opensuse-factory] SUSE 10.1 sources DVD

2006-06-02 Thread Eberhard Moenkeberg
Hi, On Sat, 3 Jun 2006, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: Will there be a DVD again with the sources corresponding to the packages in the boxed set (like there was for 10.0)? No, not in the box. Maybe they will burn and send you one upon personal request. Cheers -e -- Eberhard Moenkeberg ([EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [opensuse-factory] Using LVM by default for new installations?

2006-06-02 Thread Pascal Bleser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Volker Kuhlmann wrote: > Hi Lenz, ... > That all looks very sensible. I don't see a big problem with > repartitioning non-LVM disks myself (shrink, lower partition boundary, > create/resize filesystem above new boundary), but with LVM it would be a > t

Re: [opensuse-factory] SUSE 10.1 sources DVD

2006-06-02 Thread Christoph Thiel
On Sat, 3 Jun 2006, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: > Will there be a DVD again with the sources corresponding to the packages > in the boxed set (like there was for 10.0)? We have two source DVDs lying around -- but as of now they didn't get pushed out to the mirrors. And I'd actually prefer to just of

[opensuse-factory] SUSE 10.1 sources DVD

2006-06-02 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
Will there be a DVD again with the sources corresponding to the packages in the boxed set (like there was for 10.0)? Thanks, Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me. ---

Re: [opensuse-factory] Using LVM by default for new installations?

2006-06-02 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
Hi Lenz, > So yes, the partitioner would need to create two additional regular > partitions: > > - a small one (~100MB is more than sufficient) for /boot Arrg, I was very happy to have seen that gone for good. SUSE doesn't even boot any more on boxes with a BIOS too old to need separate /boot.

Re: [opensuse-factory] Updated Software Management Test Repository

2006-06-02 Thread Andreas Hanke
Hi, > Knowing this, it should probably go directly into Bugzilla, [...] I've reported it as #181478. Andreas Hanke - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [opensuse-factory] Using LVM by default for new installations?

2006-06-02 Thread Eberhard Moenkeberg
Hi, On Fri, 2 Jun 2006, houghi wrote: On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 09:55:41PM +0200, Richard Bos wrote: I have 4 HD's at this moment and place for 2 more. 1 will always be seperate (hda) for tests, the others I would like to have as a LVM, but I want to know the risks beforehand. I do not see the

Re: [opensuse-factory] Using LVM by default for new installations?

2006-06-02 Thread houghi
On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 09:55:41PM +0200, Richard Bos wrote: > The LVM will most likely be on 1 disk (for home systems). The the early days > disk were small and than LVM was used to obtain bigger file systems. > Nowadays disks are big enough and LVM is used for convenience to be able to > res

Re: [opensuse-factory] Updated Software Management Test Repository

2006-06-02 Thread Andreas Hanke
Hi, Andreas Jaeger schrieb: > IMPORTANT: Please report *all* bugs in bugzilla.novell.com and > *always* CC [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Harald Müller-Ney) on the bugreport > and mention that you're using AJ's updated package stack from > 2006-06-02. Knowing this, it should probably go directly into Bugzill

Re: [opensuse-factory] Using LVM by default for new installations?

2006-06-02 Thread Richard Bos
Op vrijdag 2 juni 2006 19:06, schreef houghi: > > Yes, that's how it works. LVM scans the disk for existing volumes and > > the YaST2 LVM frontend lists these similar to already existing > > partitions. You can assign these to new mount points without formatting. > > One last question. So the only

Re: [opensuse-factory] High Utilization with zen components

2006-06-02 Thread Manfred Tremmel
Am Freitag, 2. Juni 2006 18:24 schrieb Chad Groneman: > This has probably been addressed somewhere in a thread somewhere, but > I can't see it. Anyway, I've noticed that whenever I do anything > with the new software management tools (ZEN tools), my system's fans > crank up. I check top and see

Re: [opensuse-factory] Using LVM by default for new installations?

2006-06-02 Thread houghi
On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 08:14:44PM +0200, jdd wrote: > so plain ext2 is definitively the best choice. As said, that is trivial at this point what it is. > It's also a good idea to keep a separate /boot partition, > just in case some old hardaware with faulty BIOS (may be > there are still some

Re: [opensuse-factory] Using LVM by default for new installations?

2006-06-02 Thread jdd
houghi wrote: 1 reiser partition /boot to make it bootable reiser * have a minimal journal size of 50Mb, so not that good for a so small partition * is _not_ known by all the rescue cd available anywhere (nor by SUSE floppies, in fact). so plain ext2 is definitively the best choice. It's

Re: [opensuse-factory] Using LVM by default for new installations?

2006-06-02 Thread houghi
On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 06:05:41PM +0200, Lenz Grimmer wrote: > > Do the new installation and still have what you wanted to keep. Am I > > correct in this idea? > > Yes, that's how it works. LVM scans the disk for existing volumes and > the YaST2 LVM frontend lists these similar to already exist

Re: [opensuse-factory] High Utilization with zen components

2006-06-02 Thread Martin Schlander
Fredag 02 juni 2006 18:24 skrev Chad Groneman: > I don't know if it's a bug or not, but it bothers me a great deal. I > don't like my system to have to crank up the fans to do something as > simple as check to see if there are updates available, or install an > RPM. It's well known that the new p

[opensuse-factory] High Utilization with zen components

2006-06-02 Thread Chad Groneman
Hello everyone, This has probably been addressed somewhere in a thread somewhere, but I can't see it. Anyway, I've noticed that whenever I do anything with the new software management tools (ZEN tools), my system's fans crank up. I check top and see that my utilization is in the high 90's or eve

Re: [opensuse-factory] Using LVM by default for new installations?

2006-06-02 Thread Lenz Grimmer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, houghi wrote: > I just looked at what is now there and to make it clear that it was not > LVM. Could be anything, I guess. FAT32? :-) Almost - FAT32 might be a bit too low-end for that. But it's pretty common to use ext2 for /boot - you don't re

Re: [opensuse-factory] Bug handling

2006-06-02 Thread Christian Boltz
Hello, Am Mittwoch, 31. Mai 2006 11:55 schrieb Andreas Jaeger: > Andreas Hanke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > What happens if a report gets lost in NEEDINFO status even though > > the requested information was indeed provided. [...] > > If a person without any relation to the bug notices that, is

Re: [opensuse-factory] Using LVM by default for new installations?

2006-06-02 Thread houghi
On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 03:55:59PM +0200, Lenz Grimmer wrote: > Accessing LVM requires a kernel that can read the LVM info stored on the > disk. A plain BIOS can't do that, and I am not sure about a boot manager > like GRUB. The kernel loads the LVM drivers via the initrd, which is > located on a "

Re: [opensuse-factory] Using LVM by default for new installations?

2006-06-02 Thread Lenz Grimmer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, houghi wrote: > Is there a reason that /boot is on a seperate partition? I do not know > LVM, so I can only guess that the reason is that LVM is not directly > bootable. Accessing LVM requires a kernel that can read the LVM info stored on the di

[opensuse-factory] packages in the future to be added or deleted

2006-06-02 Thread houghi
I know that there will always be packages that can't make it. How does the team that decides what goes on and what not do this? e.g. does it only listen to customer feedback (e.g. bugzilla) or does it also look at how often certain packages are downloaded? I understand thatSUSE does not have contr

Re: [opensuse-factory] Using LVM by default for new installations?

2006-06-02 Thread houghi
On Thu, Jun 01, 2006 at 05:51:03PM +0200, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote: > Works perfectly for me and my configuration is even more complicated: > - GRUB on hda > - /boot on hdb5 > - / on LVM on hdb > - mount-by-label for all filesystems > - I can move hdb around as I want (hdc, hdd etc.) and only h

Re: [opensuse-factory] Update stack test build

2006-06-02 Thread Andreas Hanke
Hi, Ulrich Windl schrieb: > I think that's basically a dangerous option (Think of your webbrowser > having a global option "trust expired and invalid certificates for > secure connections": You would want it per certificate, not globally) But in any case there's a problem there, an option in the

Re: [opensuse-factory] Updated Software Management Test Repository

2006-06-02 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Lenz Grimmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi! > > Andreas Jaeger wrote: > >> > > * You can now remove the software catalog you added in the first step. >> > > Use "yast2 inst_source" and delete the catalog. >> > Here a popup window appeared, stating: "Error: Cannot stop >> > '/etc/init.d/novell

Re: [opensuse-factory] Using LVM by default for new installations?

2006-06-02 Thread Ulrich Windl
On 2 Jun 2006 at 12:47, jdd wrote: > Ulrich Windl wrote: > > On 1 Jun 2006 at 17:45, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote: > > > > > >>jdd wrote: > >> > >>>given modern disks are large, is it possible to have LVM strictly > >>>assigned at one disk, or separate LVM to each disk? > >> > >>Of course. > >

Re: [opensuse-factory] Using LVM by default for new installations?

2006-06-02 Thread Lenz Grimmer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, jdd wrote: > can you expand that? I don't understand. > > do you mean that one can make partitions on a drive then set lvm to be > used only on this partition? Yes, sure. On my Laptop, I have one big partition, labelled as "LVM". Inside of this

Re: [opensuse-factory] Using LVM by default for new installations?

2006-06-02 Thread jdd
Ulrich Windl wrote: On 1 Jun 2006 at 17:45, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote: jdd wrote: given modern disks are large, is it possible to have LVM strictly assigned at one disk, or separate LVM to each disk? Of course. Actually you can have LVM per partition, right? can you expand that? I

Re: [opensuse-factory] Using LVM by default for new installations?

2006-06-02 Thread jdd
Ulrich Windl wrote: On 1 Jun 2006 at 16:53, jdd wrote: sharing a partition between several disks don't seems so nice to me (when not strictly necessary), but when a drive fails, anyway all it's content is lost so... we could have to good and not the bad? Our last database server had 46 di

Re: [opensuse-factory] Updated Software Management Test Repository

2006-06-02 Thread Lenz Grimmer
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Updated Software Management Test Repository

2006-06-02 Thread Jürgen Mell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Andreas and Lenz, On Friday 02 June 2006 11:11, Lenz Grimmer wrote: > ... > > > * You can now remove the software catalog you added in the first step. > > Use "yast2 inst_source" and delete the catalog. > > Here a popup window appeared, stating:

Re: [opensuse-factory] Updated Software Management Test Repository

2006-06-02 Thread Wolfgang Rosenauer
On 2006-06-02 at 11:16:47 +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote (shortened): > Lenz Grimmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > [...] > >> * You can now remove the software catalog you added in the first step. > >> Use "yast2 inst_source" and delete the catalog. > > > > Here a popup window appeared, statin

Re: [opensuse-factory] Updated Software Management Test Repository

2006-06-02 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Lenz Grimmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [...] >> * You can now remove the software catalog you added in the first step. >> Use "yast2 inst_source" and delete the catalog. > > Here a popup window appeared, stating: "Error: Cannot stop > '/etc/init.d/novell-zmd' service". I clicked OK, and the

Re: [opensuse-factory] Updated Software Management Test Repository

2006-06-02 Thread Lenz Grimmer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Andreas! Andreas Jaeger wrote: > We're currently pushing out an update to the package/patch management > stack and I'm asking for additional testing. Excellent, looks like this is quite needed ;) > The previous repository did not show any new bu

[opensuse-factory] Updated Software Management Test Repository

2006-06-02 Thread Andreas Jaeger
We're currently pushing out an update to the package/patch management stack and I'm asking for additional testing. The previous repository did not show any new bugs but we fixed a couple of more bugs and made this time a repository with a real patch in it for testing. Please read the text below