Re: [opensuse-factory] BulletProofX - a critical feature request for openSUSE

2007-08-31 Thread Christian Boltz
Hello, on Donnerstag, 30. August 2007, Benji Weber wrote: [...] I would have thought it would be more sensible to add a check to the /etc/init.d/xdm init script to start SaX2 in event of displaymanager failing to start. Yes, would be a nice enhancement. Unfortunately KDM returns 0 on X

Re: [opensuse-factory] BulletProofX - a critical feature request for openSUSE

2007-08-31 Thread Alberto Passalacqua
sax.sh -a? What kind of a joke is this supposed to be? Either we are interested in broadening the market or in pushing THE platform for developers. Developers, however, do not need any sax.sh they just need lspci, vi and some xorg.conf to start from. Somebody deserving the description

Re: [opensuse-factory] BulletProofX - a critical feature request for openSUSE

2007-08-31 Thread Benji Weber
On 31/08/2007, Alberto Passalacqua [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To configure the nvidia driver, if not using the RPM's or if something goes wrong with them, the user is supposed to write something like: SaX2 -r -m 0=nvidia So, there is no surprise in requiring to the user to know SaX. But the

Re: [opensuse-factory] BulletProofX - a critical feature request for openSUSE

2007-08-31 Thread Martin Vuk
2007/8/31, Alberto Passalacqua [EMAIL PROTECTED]: . So, there is no surprise in requiring to the user to know SaX. Well I know sax well enough, and use cli to configure my system a lot. but sax2 is one of command you don't use that often and I have to type sax2 --help to remember the switches

Re: [opensuse-factory] BulletProofX - a critical feature request for openSUSE

2007-08-31 Thread jdd
could not this be synced with the failsafe boot option? jdd -- http://www.dodin.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [opensuse-factory] BulletProofX - a critical feature request for openSUSE

2007-08-31 Thread Benji Weber
On 31/08/2007, Christian Morales Vega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why to use sax2 -a? I have not tested it, but I suppose it will have his own problems trying to find the best configuration automagically. To me the Ubuntu way is better, give the user a failsafe GUI mode from where he can use SaX2

Re: [opensuse-factory] BulletProofX - a critical feature request for openSUSE

2007-08-31 Thread Sid Boyce
Alex Lau wrote: Dear all For a solution some of you could help to create, the idea is using YaST profile + SaX2 -a with a boot menu options which trigger a flag to run SaX2 -a as needed and if X being configure correctly it will using YaST profile to reserve the configuration. Of course you

Re: [opensuse-factory] BulletProofX - a critical feature request for openSUSE

2007-08-31 Thread Benji Weber
On 31/08/2007, Sid Boyce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reading the Ubuntu complaints, it seems the guy who dreamt this up, did it as a kludge for his usual screwups. With Mandriva I never get a failure, if I have a new kernel with the nvidia driver not built for it, no problem I get the kernel

Re: [opensuse-factory] BulletProofX - a critical feature request for openSUSE

2007-08-30 Thread CyberOrg
On 8/30/07, Alexey Eremenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:. More specifically, the ability to recover from Graphics Adapter misconfigurations. It is called: BulletProofX ! I would like to see this included into openSUSE (11.0 ?), and available as an addon for openSUSE 10.3. It is a good idea,

Re: [opensuse-factory] BulletProofX - a critical feature request for openSUSE

2007-08-30 Thread Benji Weber
On 30/08/2007, CyberOrg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/30/07, Alexey Eremenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:. More specifically, the ability to recover from Graphics Adapter misconfigurations. It is called: BulletProofX ! I would like to see this included into openSUSE (11.0 ?), and

Re: [opensuse-factory] BulletProofX - a critical feature request for openSUSE

2007-08-30 Thread Cristian Rodriguez
Alexey Eremenko escribió: Hi Susers ! Ubuntu team have just developed an excellent technology, that existed in Windows for many years before. and that exists in SUSE since many many years. type sax.sh -a in the command line and get your messed up configuration fixed. no critical feature

Re: [opensuse-factory] BulletProofX - a critical feature request for openSUSE

2007-08-30 Thread CyberOrg
On 8/30/07, Cristian Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexey Eremenko escribió: and that exists in SUSE since many many years. type sax.sh -a in the command line and get your messed up configuration fixed. no critical feature request . doh ! Yeah, it has been around for a long time, it

Re: [opensuse-factory] BulletProofX - a critical feature request for openSUSE

2007-08-30 Thread Alexey Eremenko
and that exists in SUSE since many many years. type sax.sh -a in the command line and get your messed up configuration fixed. You didn't get the point. It is intended for Windows users, who don't want to type at all. It should just work, and no SUSE doesn't have it. I have replaced my

Re: [opensuse-factory] BulletProofX - a critical feature request for openSUSE

2007-08-30 Thread Clayton
and that exists in SUSE since many many years. type sax.sh -a in the command line and get your messed up configuration fixed. You didn't get the point. It is intended for Windows users, who don't want to type at all. It should just work, and no SUSE doesn't have it. I have replaced

Re: [opensuse-factory] BulletProofX - a critical feature request for openSUSE

2007-08-30 Thread Frank-Michael Fischer
Cristian Rodriguez wrote: Alexey Eremenko escribió: Hi Susers ! Ubuntu team have just developed an excellent technology, that existed in Windows for many years before. and that exists in SUSE since many many years. type sax.sh -a in the command line and get your messed up

Re: [opensuse-factory] BulletProofX - a critical feature request for openSUSE

2007-08-30 Thread Cristian Rodriguez
Frank-Michael Fischer escribió: sax.sh -a? What kind of a joke is this supposed to be? no joke, when your xserver is misconfigured and dont work, you are redirected to a console no ? so, sax.sh -a will just fix your problem.. Somebody deserving the description user versus administrator or

Re: [opensuse-factory] BulletProofX - a critical feature request for openSUSE

2007-08-30 Thread Cristian Rodriguez
Clayton escribió: So.. I would say this is definitely a critical request. Then our concept of critical is very different. -- Cristian Rodríguez R. SUSE RD You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them. --Ray Bradbury

Re: [opensuse-factory] BulletProofX - a critical feature request for openSUSE

2007-08-30 Thread Cristian Rodriguez
CyberOrg escribió: Yeah, it has been around for a long time, it works quite well. Indeed, it works just fine. now we should make it automatic so user doesn't have to know any commands or do it manually. Hrmm.. yes, but in what specific situations should it be triggered automagically ? Im

Re: [opensuse-factory] BulletProofX - a critical feature request for openSUSE

2007-08-30 Thread Benji Weber
On 30/08/2007, Cristian Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no joke, when your xserver is misconfigured and dont work, you are redirected to a console no ? so, sax.sh -a will just fix your problem.. I think the original point was it would be nicer to redirect straight to sax2 -a. sax2 -a whilst

Re: [opensuse-factory] BulletProofX - a critical feature request for openSUSE

2007-08-30 Thread Alex Lau
Dear all For a solution some of you could help to create, the idea is using YaST profile + SaX2 -a with a boot menu options which trigger a flag to run SaX2 -a as needed and if X being configure correctly it will using YaST profile to reserve the configuration. Of course you can use the same

Re: [opensuse-factory] BulletProofX - a critical feature request for openSUSE

2007-08-30 Thread Clayton
On 8/30/07, Cristian Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Clayton escribió: So.. I would say this is definitely a critical request. Then our concept of critical is very different. And you've missed the point altogether thinking like a programmer/developer is fine if that is to be the

Re: [opensuse-factory] BulletProofX - a critical feature request for openSUSE

2007-08-30 Thread Christian Morales Vega
On Thursday 30 August 2007 10:09:44 Alexey Eremenko wrote: Hi Susers ! Ubuntu team have just developed an excellent technology, that existed in Windows for many years before. More specifically, the ability to recover from Graphics Adapter misconfigurations. It is called: BulletProofX !

Re: [opensuse-factory] BulletProofX - a critical feature request for openSUSE

2007-08-30 Thread Frank-Michael Fischer
Christian Morales Vega wrote: On Thursday 30 August 2007 10:09:44 Alexey Eremenko wrote: Hi Susers ! Ubuntu team have just developed an excellent technology, that existed in Windows for many years before. More specifically, the ability to recover from Graphics Adapter misconfigurations.