Re: [opensuse-marketing] openSUSE social account (was : openSUSE on Mastodon)
Hi Jimmy, thanks for your advices! > Here are my remarks on > https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Social_media_contacts > > French openSUSE fans: Last post was on 22 February 2016: => if it > becomes a FB group, maybe it will revive? Might be, though people would have to join in the first place. Maybe it would be good to at least auto-post news like from Twitter et. al. at that page as well. But in the end that's up to the French community and their preferences. > Planet openSUSE: wrong link should read => > https://planet.opensuse.org/global/ openSUSE Weekly News Page: => dead link Fixed both. > No instagram : https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/opensuse/ That is a tag search we (to be accurate: no one) has under control. Therefore I'd not add that to the list. Regards, vinz. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscr...@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+ow...@opensuse.org
Re: [opensuse-marketing] openSUSE social account (was : openSUSE on Mastodon)
On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 at 11:18, wrote: > > Le 2019-01-16 09:28, jimmypierre.rouen.fra...@gmail.com a écrit : > > -Original Message- > > From: ddemaio [mailto:ddem...@suse.de] > > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 9:14 AM > > To: so...@opensuse.org; Bruno Friedmann > > Cc: opensuse-marketing@opensuse.org > > Subject: Re: [opensuse-marketing] openSUSE social account (was : > > openSUSE on Mastodon) > > > > > > > > On 1/16/19 8:46 AM, so...@opensuse.org wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> Le 2019-01-16 08:16, Bruno Friedmann a écrit : > >>> On mercredi, 16 janvier 2019 07.41:38 h CET ddemaio wrote: > >>>> Hi Bruno and Jimmy, > >>>> > >>>> On 1/16/19 12:07 AM, Vinzenz Vietzke wrote: > >>>> > Hi Sogal, > >>>> > > >>>> >> Talking about social accounts, if I don't make any mistake, there > >>>> is no > >>>> >> openSUSE account on Diaspora*. Should we start one ? If you think > >>>> it is > >>>> >> relevant, I will be, of course, volunteer, to animate and feed it. > >>>> > > >>>> > I think it's up to you. If you have the time and want to curate the > >>>> > account, please do! If not, it's better not to create an account. > >>>> That > >>>> > aside> > >>>> >> One more thing, I have an administrator access to the Twitter > >>>> >> openSUSE_FR account that I get when I became president of Alionet > >>>> last > >>>> >> year. For some unclear historical reasons, the guys before me > >>>> seem to, > >>>> >> more or less, handle this account. What should I do with it ? I > >>>> would be > >>>> >> happy to animate it as well but the content will be similar to the > >>>> >> Alionet tweeter account feed that I manage, because, de facto, > >>>> Alionet > >>>> >> is the French openSUSE community and that is where I post every > >>>> openSUSE > >>>> >> news I translate. > >>>> > > >>>> > Why not replicated everything openSUSE-related, translated you > >>>> post on the > >>>> > Alionet account? Better than nothing, I guess. > >>>> > >>>> What do you all think? > >>>> > >>>> It would be good to have the owner/contact details listed on > >>>> https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Social_media_contacts > >>>> v/r > >>>> Doug > >>> > >>> I've no idea about what we are talking about, what is a social media > >>> ? ;-) > >>> Did you realize that you need an account to access this kind of > >>> informations, > >>> this is not freedom... > >> > >> I agree on that. Hopefully Vinzenz started using Mastodon. I can > >> create an openSUSE_FR account on Mastodon as well. It's free software, > >> but one will need an account as well :-\ That being said, those > >> "social media" accounts are just a relay, the original information are > >> still freely and publicly available to all (on Alionet for the French > >> example). > >> > >>> About using or not the openSUSE_FR account on "oiseau bleu ", I guess > >>> it's > >>> better to feed it with content (even the same than alionet) than > >>> nothing > >>> > >>> Guetting all contacts organized on the wiki is very important, and as > >>> far we > >>> can Doug should always be the backup administrator. > >> > >> All right, thanks all for you answers. I will take some time by the > >> end of the week to refresh this account and feed it. I will update the > >> wiki page as well. > >> > >> @ Douglas : I will email you the admin access if it is ok to you. > > > > Hi All, > > > > Been quite busy but last week I found a few discrepancies on this page > > and will report same in the next ten days. > > > > Splitting information, hence duplicating information does not benefit. > > If I need information on a subject, I will look for it at the source > > and not on a search engine because if the way SEO affects searches > > does not mean it’s the Bible, neither the latest and up to date > > information. > > > > Wikipedia is a good example. You look
RE: [opensuse-marketing] openSUSE social account (was : openSUSE on Mastodon)
Le 2019-01-16 09:28, jimmypierre.rouen.fra...@gmail.com a écrit : -Original Message- From: ddemaio [mailto:ddem...@suse.de] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 9:14 AM To: so...@opensuse.org; Bruno Friedmann Cc: opensuse-marketing@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse-marketing] openSUSE social account (was : openSUSE on Mastodon) On 1/16/19 8:46 AM, so...@opensuse.org wrote: Hi all, Le 2019-01-16 08:16, Bruno Friedmann a écrit : On mercredi, 16 janvier 2019 07.41:38 h CET ddemaio wrote: Hi Bruno and Jimmy, On 1/16/19 12:07 AM, Vinzenz Vietzke wrote: > Hi Sogal, > >> Talking about social accounts, if I don't make any mistake, there is no >> openSUSE account on Diaspora*. Should we start one ? If you think it is >> relevant, I will be, of course, volunteer, to animate and feed it. > > I think it's up to you. If you have the time and want to curate the > account, please do! If not, it's better not to create an account. That > aside> >> One more thing, I have an administrator access to the Twitter >> openSUSE_FR account that I get when I became president of Alionet last >> year. For some unclear historical reasons, the guys before me seem to, >> more or less, handle this account. What should I do with it ? I would be >> happy to animate it as well but the content will be similar to the >> Alionet tweeter account feed that I manage, because, de facto, Alionet >> is the French openSUSE community and that is where I post every openSUSE >> news I translate. > > Why not replicated everything openSUSE-related, translated you post on the > Alionet account? Better than nothing, I guess. What do you all think? It would be good to have the owner/contact details listed on https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Social_media_contacts v/r Doug I've no idea about what we are talking about, what is a social media ? ;-) Did you realize that you need an account to access this kind of informations, this is not freedom... I agree on that. Hopefully Vinzenz started using Mastodon. I can create an openSUSE_FR account on Mastodon as well. It's free software, but one will need an account as well :-\ That being said, those "social media" accounts are just a relay, the original information are still freely and publicly available to all (on Alionet for the French example). About using or not the openSUSE_FR account on "oiseau bleu ", I guess it's better to feed it with content (even the same than alionet) than nothing Guetting all contacts organized on the wiki is very important, and as far we can Doug should always be the backup administrator. All right, thanks all for you answers. I will take some time by the end of the week to refresh this account and feed it. I will update the wiki page as well. @ Douglas : I will email you the admin access if it is ok to you. Hi All, Been quite busy but last week I found a few discrepancies on this page and will report same in the next ten days. Splitting information, hence duplicating information does not benefit. If I need information on a subject, I will look for it at the source and not on a search engine because if the way SEO affects searches does not mean it’s the Bible, neither the latest and up to date information. Wikipedia is a good example. You look at say Linux and in the left widget, you can choose the language that you want. So if we want to know about the Roadmap of eg. openSUSE Leap 16, it would be best to find it at one place in as many languages as possible. Having said that, I now know who had admin access to openSUSE FR of Twitter :). Silent for a very long time but SUSE tweets about openSUSE in French. So it would be great to use and improve existing social network tools where we have a guaranteed audience who by the way know how to use them. Just my two cents. Best wishes and une Bonne et Belle Année à tous nos amis francophones et francophiles! Jimmy Hi Jimmy, Not sure that I get all your points. I agree that splitting information is not the best way, but I think that, when it comes to promotion, more is better, and that some people might expect this openSUSE_FR to be active. Beside that, the name "openSUSE_FR" itself will probably speak to more people, when they are looking for openSUSE related stuff on Twitter or other, than Alionet. The duplication of accounts is only seen on Twitter, so another option is simply to close one of the duplicated accounts but I am not conviced that it would do any good. Thank you and "Bonne année" à toi aussi :) -- Sébastien 'sogal' Poher -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscr...@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+ow...@opensuse.org
RE: [opensuse-marketing] openSUSE social account (was : openSUSE on Mastodon)
-Original Message- From: ddemaio [mailto:ddem...@suse.de] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 9:14 AM To: so...@opensuse.org; Bruno Friedmann Cc: opensuse-marketing@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse-marketing] openSUSE social account (was : openSUSE on Mastodon) On 1/16/19 8:46 AM, so...@opensuse.org wrote: > Hi all, > > Le 2019-01-16 08:16, Bruno Friedmann a écrit : >> On mercredi, 16 janvier 2019 07.41:38 h CET ddemaio wrote: >>> Hi Bruno and Jimmy, >>> >>> On 1/16/19 12:07 AM, Vinzenz Vietzke wrote: >>> > Hi Sogal, >>> > >>> >> Talking about social accounts, if I don't make any mistake, there >>> is no >>> >> openSUSE account on Diaspora*. Should we start one ? If you think >>> it is >>> >> relevant, I will be, of course, volunteer, to animate and feed it. >>> > >>> > I think it's up to you. If you have the time and want to curate the >>> > account, please do! If not, it's better not to create an account. >>> That >>> > aside> >>> >> One more thing, I have an administrator access to the Twitter >>> >> openSUSE_FR account that I get when I became president of Alionet >>> last >>> >> year. For some unclear historical reasons, the guys before me >>> seem to, >>> >> more or less, handle this account. What should I do with it ? I >>> would be >>> >> happy to animate it as well but the content will be similar to the >>> >> Alionet tweeter account feed that I manage, because, de facto, >>> Alionet >>> >> is the French openSUSE community and that is where I post every >>> openSUSE >>> >> news I translate. >>> > >>> > Why not replicated everything openSUSE-related, translated you >>> post on the >>> > Alionet account? Better than nothing, I guess. >>> >>> What do you all think? >>> >>> It would be good to have the owner/contact details listed on >>> https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Social_media_contacts >>> v/r >>> Doug >> >> I've no idea about what we are talking about, what is a social media >> ? ;-) >> Did you realize that you need an account to access this kind of >> informations, >> this is not freedom... > > I agree on that. Hopefully Vinzenz started using Mastodon. I can > create an openSUSE_FR account on Mastodon as well. It's free software, > but one will need an account as well :-\ That being said, those > "social media" accounts are just a relay, the original information are > still freely and publicly available to all (on Alionet for the French > example). > >> About using or not the openSUSE_FR account on "oiseau bleu ", I guess >> it's >> better to feed it with content (even the same than alionet) than nothing >> >> Guetting all contacts organized on the wiki is very important, and as >> far we >> can Doug should always be the backup administrator. > > All right, thanks all for you answers. I will take some time by the > end of the week to refresh this account and feed it. I will update the > wiki page as well. > > @ Douglas : I will email you the admin access if it is ok to you. Hi All, Been quite busy but last week I found a few discrepancies on this page and will report same in the next ten days. Splitting information, hence duplicating information does not benefit. If I need information on a subject, I will look for it at the source and not on a search engine because if the way SEO affects searches does not mean it’s the Bible, neither the latest and up to date information. Wikipedia is a good example. You look at say Linux and in the left widget, you can choose the language that you want. So if we want to know about the Roadmap of eg. openSUSE Leap 16, it would be best to find it at one place in as many languages as possible. Having said that, I now know who had admin access to openSUSE FR of Twitter :). Silent for a very long time but SUSE tweets about openSUSE in French. So it would be great to use and improve existing social network tools where we have a guaranteed audience who by the way know how to use them. Just my two cents. Best wishes and une Bonne et Belle Année à tous nos amis francophones et francophiles! Jimmy -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscr...@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+ow...@opensuse.org
Re: [opensuse-marketing] openSUSE social account (was : openSUSE on Mastodon)
On 1/16/19 8:46 AM, so...@opensuse.org wrote: Hi all, Le 2019-01-16 08:16, Bruno Friedmann a écrit : On mercredi, 16 janvier 2019 07.41:38 h CET ddemaio wrote: Hi Bruno and Jimmy, On 1/16/19 12:07 AM, Vinzenz Vietzke wrote: > Hi Sogal, > >> Talking about social accounts, if I don't make any mistake, there is no >> openSUSE account on Diaspora*. Should we start one ? If you think it is >> relevant, I will be, of course, volunteer, to animate and feed it. > > I think it's up to you. If you have the time and want to curate the > account, please do! If not, it's better not to create an account. That > aside> >> One more thing, I have an administrator access to the Twitter >> openSUSE_FR account that I get when I became president of Alionet last >> year. For some unclear historical reasons, the guys before me seem to, >> more or less, handle this account. What should I do with it ? I would be >> happy to animate it as well but the content will be similar to the >> Alionet tweeter account feed that I manage, because, de facto, Alionet >> is the French openSUSE community and that is where I post every openSUSE >> news I translate. > > Why not replicated everything openSUSE-related, translated you post on the > Alionet account? Better than nothing, I guess. What do you all think? It would be good to have the owner/contact details listed on https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Social_media_contacts v/r Doug I've no idea about what we are talking about, what is a social media ? ;-) Did you realize that you need an account to access this kind of informations, this is not freedom... I agree on that. Hopefully Vinzenz started using Mastodon. I can create an openSUSE_FR account on Mastodon as well. It's free software, but one will need an account as well :-\ That being said, those "social media" accounts are just a relay, the original information are still freely and publicly available to all (on Alionet for the French example). About using or not the openSUSE_FR account on "oiseau bleu ", I guess it's better to feed it with content (even the same than alionet) than nothing Guetting all contacts organized on the wiki is very important, and as far we can Doug should always be the backup administrator. All right, thanks all for you answers. I will take some time by the end of the week to refresh this account and feed it. I will update the wiki page as well. @ Douglas : I will email you the admin access if it is ok to you. Please do. Thank you v/r Doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscr...@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+ow...@opensuse.org
Re: [opensuse-marketing] openSUSE social account (was : openSUSE on Mastodon)
Hi all, Le 2019-01-16 08:16, Bruno Friedmann a écrit : On mercredi, 16 janvier 2019 07.41:38 h CET ddemaio wrote: Hi Bruno and Jimmy, On 1/16/19 12:07 AM, Vinzenz Vietzke wrote: > Hi Sogal, > >> Talking about social accounts, if I don't make any mistake, there is no >> openSUSE account on Diaspora*. Should we start one ? If you think it is >> relevant, I will be, of course, volunteer, to animate and feed it. > > I think it's up to you. If you have the time and want to curate the > account, please do! If not, it's better not to create an account. That > aside> >> One more thing, I have an administrator access to the Twitter >> openSUSE_FR account that I get when I became president of Alionet last >> year. For some unclear historical reasons, the guys before me seem to, >> more or less, handle this account. What should I do with it ? I would be >> happy to animate it as well but the content will be similar to the >> Alionet tweeter account feed that I manage, because, de facto, Alionet >> is the French openSUSE community and that is where I post every openSUSE >> news I translate. > > Why not replicated everything openSUSE-related, translated you post on the > Alionet account? Better than nothing, I guess. What do you all think? It would be good to have the owner/contact details listed on https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Social_media_contacts v/r Doug I've no idea about what we are talking about, what is a social media ? ;-) Did you realize that you need an account to access this kind of informations, this is not freedom... I agree on that. Hopefully Vinzenz started using Mastodon. I can create an openSUSE_FR account on Mastodon as well. It's free software, but one will need an account as well :-\ That being said, those "social media" accounts are just a relay, the original information are still freely and publicly available to all (on Alionet for the French example). About using or not the openSUSE_FR account on "oiseau bleu ", I guess it's better to feed it with content (even the same than alionet) than nothing Guetting all contacts organized on the wiki is very important, and as far we can Doug should always be the backup administrator. All right, thanks all for you answers. I will take some time by the end of the week to refresh this account and feed it. I will update the wiki page as well. @ Douglas : I will email you the admin access if it is ok to you. Have a nice day, -- Sébastien 'sogal' Poher -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscr...@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+ow...@opensuse.org
Re: [opensuse-marketing] openSUSE social account (was : openSUSE on Mastodon)
On mercredi, 16 janvier 2019 07.41:38 h CET ddemaio wrote: > Hi Bruno and Jimmy, > > On 1/16/19 12:07 AM, Vinzenz Vietzke wrote: > > Hi Sogal, > > > >> Talking about social accounts, if I don't make any mistake, there is no > >> openSUSE account on Diaspora*. Should we start one ? If you think it is > >> relevant, I will be, of course, volunteer, to animate and feed it. > > > > I think it's up to you. If you have the time and want to curate the > > account, please do! If not, it's better not to create an account. That > > aside> > >> One more thing, I have an administrator access to the Twitter > >> openSUSE_FR account that I get when I became president of Alionet last > >> year. For some unclear historical reasons, the guys before me seem to, > >> more or less, handle this account. What should I do with it ? I would be > >> happy to animate it as well but the content will be similar to the > >> Alionet tweeter account feed that I manage, because, de facto, Alionet > >> is the French openSUSE community and that is where I post every openSUSE > >> news I translate. > > > > Why not replicated everything openSUSE-related, translated you post on the > > Alionet account? Better than nothing, I guess. > > What do you all think? > > It would be good to have the owner/contact details listed on > https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Social_media_contacts > v/r > Doug I've no idea about what we are talking about, what is a social media ? ;-) Did you realize that you need an account to access this kind of informations, this is not freedom... About using or not the openSUSE_FR account on "oiseau bleu ", I guess it's better to feed it with content (even the same than alionet) than nothing Guetting all contacts organized on the wiki is very important, and as far we can Doug should always be the backup administrator. -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch Bareos Partner, openSUSE Member, fsfe supporter GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscr...@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+ow...@opensuse.org
Re: [opensuse-marketing] openSUSE social account (was : openSUSE on Mastodon)
Hi Bruno and Jimmy, On 1/16/19 12:07 AM, Vinzenz Vietzke wrote: Hi Sogal, Talking about social accounts, if I don't make any mistake, there is no openSUSE account on Diaspora*. Should we start one ? If you think it is relevant, I will be, of course, volunteer, to animate and feed it. I think it's up to you. If you have the time and want to curate the account, please do! If not, it's better not to create an account. That aside One more thing, I have an administrator access to the Twitter openSUSE_FR account that I get when I became president of Alionet last year. For some unclear historical reasons, the guys before me seem to, more or less, handle this account. What should I do with it ? I would be happy to animate it as well but the content will be similar to the Alionet tweeter account feed that I manage, because, de facto, Alionet is the French openSUSE community and that is where I post every openSUSE news I translate. Why not replicated everything openSUSE-related, translated you post on the Alionet account? Better than nothing, I guess. What do you all think? It would be good to have the owner/contact details listed on https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Social_media_contacts v/r Doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscr...@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+ow...@opensuse.org
Re: [opensuse-marketing] openSUSE social account (was : openSUSE on Mastodon)
Hi Sogal, > Talking about social accounts, if I don't make any mistake, there is no > openSUSE account on Diaspora*. Should we start one ? If you think it is > relevant, I will be, of course, volunteer, to animate and feed it. I think it's up to you. If you have the time and want to curate the account, please do! If not, it's better not to create an account. That aside > > One more thing, I have an administrator access to the Twitter > openSUSE_FR account that I get when I became president of Alionet last > year. For some unclear historical reasons, the guys before me seem to, > more or less, handle this account. What should I do with it ? I would be > happy to animate it as well but the content will be similar to the > Alionet tweeter account feed that I manage, because, de facto, Alionet > is the French openSUSE community and that is where I post every openSUSE > news I translate. Why not replicated everything openSUSE-related, translated you post on the Alionet account? Better than nothing, I guess. Regards, vinz. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscr...@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+ow...@opensuse.org
Re: [opensuse-marketing] openSUSE social account (was : openSUSE on Mastodon)
Hi all, Nice initiative Vinz, it gave me a good reason to start a Mastodon account :) Talking about social accounts, if I don't make any mistake, there is no openSUSE account on Diaspora*. Should we start one ? If you think it is relevant, I will be, of course, volunteer, to animate and feed it. One more thing, I have an administrator access to the Twitter openSUSE_FR account that I get when I became president of Alionet last year. For some unclear historical reasons, the guys before me seem to, more or less, handle this account. What should I do with it ? I would be happy to animate it as well but the content will be similar to the Alionet tweeter account feed that I manage, because, de facto, Alionet is the French openSUSE community and that is where I post every openSUSE news I translate. Regards, Le 2019-01-10 08:24, ddemaio a écrit : Hi Vinzenz, Thank you for starting this. In less that 8 hours it jumped to 217 followers. That's great. Could you add me as an administrator. It would be good to have one or two backup admins to eliminate any points of failure. When I took over most of the openSUSE social media sites, there were points of contact who had control of pages that could not be reached, so there are some pages that are un-managed due to no access. I added it to https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Social_media_contacts v/r Doug On 1/9/19 11:06 PM, Vinzenz Vietzke wrote: Hi everyone, I created an account for openSUSE at the federated social network Mastodon. You can find it at https://fosstodon.org/@opensuse *What is Mastodon* Mastodon is a distributed, federated social network that forms part of the Fediverse, an interconnected and decentralized network of independently operated servers. Mastodon has microblogging features similar to Twitter. Each user is a member of a specific Mastodon server, known as an "instance" of the software, but can connect and communicate with users on other instances as well. Users post short messages called "toots" for others to see, subject to the adjustable privacy settings of the user and their particular instance. More at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mastodon_(software) *Why is it good for openSUSE* Being open source, privacy oriented and rooting from people with a huge interest in everything FOSS big parts of the userbase is what I'd call an easy target group for openSUSE. Just being around at their day-to-day social network is important With just announcing the account it gained 178 followers and big amount of replies, reposts etc. in just a few hours. The interest and welcoming by the users there is overwhelming. That aside I think it's good for openSUSE to stake a claim in terms of FOSS and privacy. The big social media services all have their own issues but privacy is somewhat a problem at all of them. *Who is in charge and what is published* Currently I'm the only one with access to the account. But of course I'm willing to hand over the credentials to someone official. The contents I posted and plan to post until someone else wants to take over are just the same as on openSUSE's twitter account. In the long run one has to see what people over there are interested in and adapt the contents accordingly. For any questions, go ahead. Regards, vinz. Sébastien 'sogal' Poher -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscr...@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+ow...@opensuse.org
