Jason,
sounds good to me.. Any estimated time schedule for the IRC session yet?
I personally would prefer monday.
-Rainer
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I would like to help get WebWork2/Xwork final out.
Monday nights are ok with me if it is late.. I live in Brisbane,
Australia so that is probably going to be the case.
Cheers,
Cameron
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Rainer Hermanns
Hi All!
I am a long time webwork user now trying webwork2, and I have some
questions:
How can I use tags like the url and the action tag from velocity?
where is the include tag gone? (i couldnt find it in c.o.w.view.jsp)
-chris
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Jason Carreira wrote:
You should try out the FQN plugin for IDEA... It makes it as easy as
CTRL-SHIFT-Q to get the fully qualified name.
On the other hand, if you need a tool to do it, it's obviously not a
good system.
Anders Hovmöller
On Sunday 17 August 2003 21:59, boxed wrote:
Jason Carreira wrote:
You should try out the FQN plugin for IDEA... It makes it as easy as
CTRL-SHIFT-Q to get the fully qualified name.
On the other hand, if you need a tool to do it, it's obviously not a
good system.
From what you've said
oh, woops, broke my no-posts-before-morning coffee rule:
i totally agree w/ boxed... i meant to post something in favor of
supporting this before.
On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 09:59:00PM +0200, boxed wrote:
Jason Carreira wrote:
You should try out the FQN plugin for IDEA... It makes it as easy as
yeah but think of the poor people who dont use it! :
On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 04:34:55PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
oh, woops, broke my no-posts-before-morning coffee rule:
i totally agree w/ boxed... i meant to post something in favor of
supporting this before.
On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at
On Sun, 17 Aug 2003, Rene Gielen wrote:
On Sunday 17 August 2003 21:59, boxed wrote:
Jason Carreira wrote:
You should try out the FQN plugin for IDEA... It makes it as easy as
CTRL-SHIFT-Q to get the fully qualified name.
On the other hand, if you need a tool to do it, it's obviously
On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 09:59:00PM +0200, boxed wrote:
Jason Carreira wrote:
You should try out the FQN plugin for IDEA... It makes it as easy as
CTRL-SHIFT-Q to get the fully qualified name.
On the other hand, if you need a tool to do it, it's obviously not a
good system.
Anders
I had a discussion on #java with Epesh, and he expressed the sentiment
that WW2 might be turning into a too complex system which will alienate
new users and be popular with the gearheads and such when it leaves
nerd-domain. After reading the responses to the Simplicity in WW2
email I must
Anders,
I have to say that this is a _bad_ idea.
You can already test actions to setup xwork.xml - just instantiate the
object, call your setter methods and run!
People doing J2EE understand XML, they have to. All descriptors are XML.
Xwork.xml is not _that_ complex for a hello world example,
Mike Cannon-Brookes wrote:
You can already test actions to setup xwork.xml - just instantiate the
object, call your setter methods and run!
Are you trying to scare users away now? I was talking WW2, not XW, so a
web-based interface where you can get immediate feedback in the
environment
from an outsiders point of view.. i think i'd have to admit
that requiring a proper classname everywhere would actually
increase complexity.
but it is nice to be able to think of actions by their name,
it seems a but superfluous when you're constantly changing their
names.. i like thinking of
Just to play the devil's advocate, people using full J2EE are unlikely
to be huge xwork/webwork fans anyway. Unless of course you mean
servlets/web containers, rather than J2EE. As surprising as it is, an
app with xwork, webwork, lucene, hibernate, sitemesh, and oscache is
not a
Well, it's a J2EE app in my book - personally I don't agree with Sun (see my
blog's AVK rant) that a J2EE app _must_ contain EJBs, JSPs etc.
Either way (J2EE or not J2EE) people who use WW, XW, Lucene, Hibernate etc
are used to XML files - that was my point.
M
On 18/8/03 10:37 AM, Hani Suleiman
I would agree with a previous poster that forcing the use of
fully-qualified names is actually less error prone. It may be a longer
string but that doesn't mean it's harder to use (ms worth of typing
saved). The big advantage is that refactoring tools will be able to find
the references correctly,
I would argue against anything that would increase the possibility of
subtle errors. If a solution like the one you suggest could be done
while fireproofing against problems when classes change packages, then
I wouldn't be so against it. I just hate having to track down subtle
bugs in a system
Well this isn't a matter of opinion. J2EE contains JMS, EJB,
connectors, JNDI, RMI-IIOP, servlets, jsps, and JTS. An app that uses
just servlets could be called J2EE technically, sure, but since it's
using such a tiny subset with a specific identifiable name (web apps),
it's a lot more
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From: boxed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 7:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Simplicity of WW2 - Practical ideas
Mike Cannon-Brookes wrote:
You can already test actions to setup xwork.xml - just
instantiate
So who's building full J2EE apps without a web front end (at least for the
adminsitration)? Even someone doing big batch processes needs to see how they're
progressing sometimes...
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From: Hani Suleiman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 8:38 PM
A whole big bunch of people. If you want to show progress of batch
processes, a web app is probably the absolutely stupidest way of doing
it. A request/response paradigm is a pretty foolish way of providing
continuous feedback. A swing client would be a far better choice.
I'm not knocking
The include tag still needs to be added to WW2. I'll leave the others to
the Velocity experts
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From: Christoph Sturm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 7:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [OS-webwork] using ww:url from velocity, ww:include
Well, it will probably need to be Tuesday morning or afternoon for
you... If you're the same as Sydney, then it's 14 hours ahead of eastern
time US. Let's see when Patrick and Matt can do it when they get back
tomorrow.
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From: Cameron Braid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 17 Aug 2003, Jason Carreira wrote:
So who's building full J2EE apps without a web front end (at least for the
adminsitration)? Even someone doing big batch processes needs to see how they're
progressing sometimes...
I am. TechNews.
Along the lines of making it easier for new users, we need something like this:
http://www.springframework.org/docs/MVC-step-by-step/Spring-MVC-step-by-step.html
If someone else wants to do it, great... If not, I'll eventually try to get to it.
Jason
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