Re: [OS-webwork] XWork: core concepts

2003-01-13 Thread Michael Blake Day
Rickard, This has been brought up before, I think, but I'm not sure it was answered well enough. What about people that want to use XML, Velocity, Jasper Reports, or some other view technology? You are using JSP to include the actions, but how would you do that with XML, for example? Blake Day

Re: [OS-webwork] XWork: core concepts

2003-01-13 Thread Michael Blake Day
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you all rename WebWork to XWork because WebWork was a misnomer? If the framework remains web-centric, why not just call it WebWork 1.4? Blake Day On Saturday, January 11, 2003, at 03:29 AM, Rickard Öberg wrote: This is a very difficult question.

Re: [OS-webwork] XWork: core concepts

2003-01-13 Thread Joseph Ottinger
My point precisely. I think, given the current culture of XWork, we're looking at WW 2.0 (major revision change) instead of XWork... and the webwork name becomes appropriate. On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, Michael Blake Day wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you all rename WebWork to XWork

Re: [OS-webwork] XWork: core concepts

2003-01-11 Thread Rickard berg
Philipp Meier wrote: These are the core concepts that I can think of. Now, for my own portlet-ish needs (which I hope will be more common for others too in the future) the following applies: * Actions and Components, and their resulting views, are ALWAYS called through a servlet include. This

Re: [OS-webwork] XWork: core concepts

2003-01-11 Thread Rickard Öberg
Peter Kelley wrote: Good to have you back I'm not back. I'm trying to see whether it's any point in me restarting the XWork. Are views a core concept ? Tricky one. Yes, I guess they should be, somehow. The other thing we might want to address is whether or not XWork will be somewhat

RE: [OS-webwork] XWork: core concepts

2003-01-11 Thread Måns af Klercker
PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rickard Öberg Sent: den 11 januari 2003 09:30 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] XWork: core concepts Peter Kelley wrote: Good to have you back I'm not back. I'm trying to see whether it's any point in me restarting the XWork. Are views a core

Re: [OS-webwork] XWork: core concepts

2003-01-11 Thread matt baldree
+1 - Original Message - From: Hani Suleiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 6:29 AM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] XWork: core concepts On Saturday, January 11, 2003, at 03:29 AM, Rickard Öberg wrote: This is a very difficult question. Separating

Re: [OS-webwork] XWork: core concepts

2003-01-11 Thread boxed
It could be possible to add a flag for whether includes are mandatory or not. Seems like this is exactly what interceptors are for. You don't want to have actions accessible directly from a url? Then add the interceptor that prevents it. Anders Hovmöller [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [OS-webwork] XWork: core concepts

2003-01-11 Thread boxed
A little poll: As long as you are aware that any result from this poll is basically meaningless I'm fine with this. It was pretty obvious last time this type of thing was asked on the mailing list (URLTag) and it was acted on the result, that the response that was given was grossly misleading.

Re: [OS-webwork] XWork: core concepts

2003-01-11 Thread Rickard berg
boxed wrote: It could be possible to add a flag for whether includes are mandatory or not. Seems like this is exactly what interceptors are for. You don't want to have actions accessible directly from a url? Then add the interceptor that prevents it. Good point. That would work. /Rickard

Re: [OS-webwork] XWork: core concepts

2003-01-11 Thread Hani Suleiman
Making unnecessary changes, IMHO, is definitely 'making it unpleasant'. While I see that backward compatibility is too hard to keep (or so I'm told) given all that people want xwork to be, I really dislike the approach of change for changes sake. I deliberately avoided the very early versions

RE: [OS-webwork] XWork: core concepts

2003-01-11 Thread Jason Carreira
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 11:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] XWork: core concepts I would highly recommend against going down this path. Otherwise, just focus on WebWork 1.4. Plus, even if all our actions are used for the web, remember

[OS-webwork] XWork: core concepts

2003-01-10 Thread Rickard berg
All, Since quite a few of you disagreed with my resignation as XWork architect, I've given some thought to how it would be possible to merge my requirements with those that you have. It might be possible to do it, and if so I would reconsider re-starting my work on XWork. I'd like to begin

Re: [OS-webwork] XWork: core concepts

2003-01-10 Thread Philipp Meier
On Fri, Jan 10, 2003 at 10:59:06AM +0100, Rickard Öberg wrote: These are the core concepts that I can think of. Now, for my own portlet-ish needs (which I hope will be more common for others too in the future) the following applies: * Actions and Components, and their resulting views, are

Re: [OS-webwork] XWork: core concepts

2003-01-10 Thread Patrick Lightbody
Rickard, These are great, I've placed them on the Wiki (Which is now linked from the main site, yay!). -Pat - Original Message - From: Rickard Ã-berg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WebWork [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 1:59 AM Subject: [OS-webwork] XWork: core concepts All