Re: [Openvpn-devel] openvpn windows feed ?

[Илья Шипицин]

2016-12-12 14:22 GMT+05:00 Samuli Seppänen :

> Il 11/12/2016 20:44, Илья Шипицин ha scritto:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> as we release new versions of openvpn installer, there are at least two
>> "channels"
>>
>> a) beta
>> b) stable
>>
>> should we also host some rss/atom feed with the most recent versions of
>> 2 channels ?
>>
>> so, that openvpn-gui could check "for updates"
>> also, there's an exception for WinXP (which I've no idea what to do with).
>>
>> it will help users to understand "new version is released, probably I
>> should upgrade".
>>
>
> Notifying the user would probably be ok, and for that we'd need some feed.
> The feed could be much simpler than RSS/Atom, if only machines would read
> it.
>

I considered PAD-files http://nsis.sourceforge.net/Check_online_for_Updates

there're two places for upgrading (or notifiyng user)

a)  installer (in case user run old installer)
b)  openvpn-gui itself


>
> That said, I think Windows application auto-updaters are very distracting,
> and I would prefer to publish new OpenVPN Windows packages in a Chocolatey
> repository:
>
> 
>

I missed this one. it might be a better choice than PAD


https://chocolatey.org/packages/openvpn - there's already openvpn. should
we contact current maintainer ?



> Chocolatey, as "apt-get for Windows", would take care of OpenVPN upgrades
> in a clean and non-intrusive fashion. It also removes the need to reinvent
> the wheel in form of an auto-update daemon.
>
> Cholatey is not just a random third-party application for managing
> packages for Windows. It is also pluggable as a provider to a more generic
> Microsoft framework for managing package managers called OneGet. For
> details, look here:
>
> 
> >https://chocolatey.org/faq>
>  olateyOnWindows10.aspx>
>

> One can use Chocolatey standalone, or use it as a OneGet package provider.
> We could possibly integrate Chocolatey setup with the standalone Windows
> installers as opt-in.
>
> Anyways, after OpenVPN 2.4.0 is out, I will setup a Chocolatey repository
> for OpenVPN snapshot packages and see how it works. That will enable the
> more adventurous Windows users to live on the very edge with minimal manual
> effort. It will also enable us to automate Windows snapshot testing with
> openvpn-windows-test[1].
>
> Samuli
>
> [1] 
>
>
>> it is great amount of work, I think we can schedule it after 2.4
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ilya Shipitsin
>>
>>
>>
>> 
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Re: [Openvpn-devel] openvpn windows feed ?

[Gert Doering]

Hi,

On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 11:44:24PM +0500,  ?? wrote:
> as we release new versions of openvpn installer, there are at least two
> "channels"
> 
> a) beta
> b) stable
> 
> should we also host some rss/atom feed with the most recent versions of 2
> channels ?
> 
> so, that openvpn-gui could check "for updates"

I've put some ideas into http://community.openvpn.net/openvpn/ticket/769,
but it has not yet received much traction...

> also, there's an exception for WinXP (which I've no idea what to do with).

My idea was that the "rss/atom/..." feed has categories per OS, and 
winxp would then just be "on 2.3.x", forever.

> it will help users to understand "new version is released, probably I
> should upgrade".
> 
> it is great amount of work, I think we can schedule it after 2.4

It would be absolutely great to have.

I think the coding side is not that complicated (assuming some reasonable
parsing library exists on windows side), but the design of the "how do we
signal this to the client" needs great care, because this will stay with
us for a long time - so it needs to be easy to work with for Samuli,
reasonably easy to understand and extend, etc.

gert
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Re: [Openvpn-devel] openvpn windows feed ?

[Samuli Seppänen]

Il 11/12/2016 20:44, Илья Шипицин ha scritto:
> Hello,
>
> as we release new versions of openvpn installer, there are at least two
> "channels"
>
> a) beta
> b) stable
>
> should we also host some rss/atom feed with the most recent versions of
> 2 channels ?
>
> so, that openvpn-gui could check "for updates"
> also, there's an exception for WinXP (which I've no idea what to do with).
>
> it will help users to understand "new version is released, probably I
> should upgrade".

Notifying the user would probably be ok, and for that we'd need some 
feed. The feed could be much simpler than RSS/Atom, if only machines 
would read it.

That said, I think Windows application auto-updaters are very 
distracting, and I would prefer to publish new OpenVPN Windows packages 
in a Chocolatey repository:



Chocolatey, as "apt-get for Windows", would take care of OpenVPN 
upgrades in a clean and non-intrusive fashion. It also removes the need 
to reinvent the wheel in form of an auto-update daemon.

Cholatey is not just a random third-party application for managing 
packages for Windows. It is also pluggable as a provider to a more 
generic Microsoft framework for managing package managers called OneGet. 
For details, look here:


 >https://chocolatey.org/faq>


One can use Chocolatey standalone, or use it as a OneGet package 
provider. We could possibly integrate Chocolatey setup with the 
standalone Windows installers as opt-in.

Anyways, after OpenVPN 2.4.0 is out, I will setup a Chocolatey 
repository for OpenVPN snapshot packages and see how it works. That will 
enable the more adventurous Windows users to live on the very edge with 
minimal manual effort. It will also enable us to automate Windows 
snapshot testing with openvpn-windows-test[1].

Samuli

[1] 

>
> it is great amount of work, I think we can schedule it after 2.4
>
> Cheers,
> Ilya Shipitsin
>
>
>
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