Re: OpenWrt One - celebrating 20 years of OpenWrt

2024-01-09 Thread David Lang
On Tue, 9 Jan 2024, Paul D wrote: 6GHz seems a starting point nowadays, although I get by with 5GHz. only if all your clients support 6GHz as well, most don't * Packages with cases+PSU are a must for broader acceptance, which explains why the Raspberry Pi bare board is such a failure,

Re: OpenWrt One - celebrating 20 years of OpenWrt

2024-01-09 Thread Mark Thurston
This looks like a great project. I'm sure I would end up buying several units. Looking at the spec: > Ethernet: 2x RJ45 (2.5 GbE + 1 GbE) 2.5Gb FTTP is becoming more widely available. It would be better to be able to match egress and ingress surely as it is a router after all? 1GbE x 2 or

Re: OpenWrt One - celebrating 20 years of OpenWrt

2024-01-09 Thread Dave Taht
I have often tried to point out that what matters most in wifi is low interference, better multiplexing across devices, and good bandwidth *at range*. Up until very recently the 6ghz stuff mostly had terrible bandwidth, jitter and latency at range, and everyone shipping it bleeding into all the

Re: OpenWrt One - celebrating 20 years of OpenWrt

2024-01-09 Thread Janusz Dziedzic
wt., 9 sty 2024 o 18:59 Daniel Golle napisał(a): > > On Tue, Jan 09, 2024 at 06:49:04PM +0100, Janusz Dziedzic wrote: > > wt., 9 sty 2024 o 18:02 Robert Marko napisał(a): > > > > > > On Tue, 9 Jan 2024 at 17:53, Rafał Miłecki wrote: > > > > > > > > On 9.01.2024 13:29, John Crispin wrote: > > >

Re: OpenWrt One - celebrating 20 years of OpenWrt

2024-01-09 Thread Daniel Golle
On Tue, Jan 09, 2024 at 06:49:04PM +0100, Janusz Dziedzic wrote: > wt., 9 sty 2024 o 18:02 Robert Marko napisał(a): > > > > On Tue, 9 Jan 2024 at 17:53, Rafał Miłecki wrote: > > > > > > On 9.01.2024 13:29, John Crispin wrote: > > > > On 09.01.24 12:56, Robert Marko wrote: > > > >> ---SNIP--- > >

Re: OpenWrt One - celebrating 20 years of OpenWrt

2024-01-09 Thread Janusz Dziedzic
wt., 9 sty 2024 o 18:02 Robert Marko napisał(a): > > On Tue, 9 Jan 2024 at 17:53, Rafał Miłecki wrote: > > > > On 9.01.2024 13:29, John Crispin wrote: > > > On 09.01.24 12:56, Robert Marko wrote: > > >> ---SNIP--- > > >> > > >>> Why not 6GHz? > > >> 6GHz requires an external card, and I doubt

Re: OpenWrt One - celebrating 20 years of OpenWrt

2024-01-09 Thread Daniel Golle
On Tue, Jan 09, 2024 at 05:52:57PM +0100, Rafał Miłecki wrote: > On 9.01.2024 13:29, John Crispin wrote: > > On 09.01.24 12:56, Robert Marko wrote: > > > ---SNIP--- > > > > > > > Why not 6GHz? > > > 6GHz requires an external card, and I doubt you can fit that in the > > > target price. > > > > >

Re: OpenWrt One - celebrating 20 years of OpenWrt

2024-01-09 Thread Robert Marko
On Tue, 9 Jan 2024 at 17:53, Rafał Miłecki wrote: > > On 9.01.2024 13:29, John Crispin wrote: > > On 09.01.24 12:56, Robert Marko wrote: > >> ---SNIP--- > >> > >>> Why not 6GHz? > >> 6GHz requires an external card, and I doubt you can fit that in the > >> target price. > >> > >> Regards, > >>

Re: OpenWrt One - celebrating 20 years of OpenWrt

2024-01-09 Thread Rafał Miłecki
On 9.01.2024 13:29, John Crispin wrote: On 09.01.24 12:56, Robert Marko wrote: ---SNIP--- Why not 6GHz? 6GHz requires an external card, and I doubt you can fit that in the target price. Regards, Robert correct. as mentioned in the email, we wanted to start out small. also upstream

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2024-01-09 Thread john
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odhcpd PRs

2024-01-09 Thread Paul D
Please take a look at the PRs here: https://github.com/openwrt/odhcpd/pulls They need some attention :) ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel

Re: OpenWrt One - celebrating 20 years of OpenWrt

2024-01-09 Thread Chuanhong Guo
Hi! On Tue, Jan 9, 2024 at 10:34 PM John Crispin wrote: > > > On 09.01.24 14:51, Chuanhong Guo wrote: > > Hi! > > > > On Tue, Jan 9, 2024 at 6:52 PM John Crispin wrote: > >> [...] > >> FAQ > >> > >> * Why are there are 2 different flash chips? > >> - the idea is to make the device (almost!)

Re: PKG_MAINTAINER_HANDLE

2024-01-09 Thread Paul D
On 2024-01-08 16:03, Paul Spooren wrote: Hi Paul, PKG_MAINTAINER:=Joe Bloggs PKG_MAINTAINER_HANDLE:=github: @joe; https://forum.openwrt.org/u/joe/ Plan B co-opt existing PKG_MAINTAINER field, but perhaps it's possible? e.g: PKG_MAINTAINER:=Joe Bloggs , github: @Joe I think for that you

Re: OpenWrt One - celebrating 20 years of OpenWrt

2024-01-09 Thread Paul D
6GHz seems a starting point nowadays, although I get by with 5GHz. If the BPi can be extended with add-on cards for exactly this area, that's a great starting point also. Ideally sub $100 for any product. * Packages with cases+PSU are a must for broader acceptance, and to prevent fatigue

Re: OpenWrt One - celebrating 20 years of OpenWrt

2024-01-09 Thread Michael Richardson
Chuanhong Guo wrote: >> * What is the purpose of the console USB-C port? >> - Holtek UART to USB bridge with CDC-ACM support on USB-C makes the >> device ultra easy to communicate with. No extra hardware or drivers will >> be required. Android for example has CDC-ACM support

Re: OpenWrt One - celebrating 20 years of OpenWrt

2024-01-09 Thread John Crispin
On 09.01.24 14:51, Chuanhong Guo wrote: Hi! On Tue, Jan 9, 2024 at 6:52 PM John Crispin wrote: [...] FAQ * Why are there are 2 different flash chips? - the idea is to make the device (almost!) unbrickable and very easy to recover What about a built-in JTAG probe instead of

Re: GPON project?

2024-01-09 Thread Robert Marko
On Tue, 9 Jan 2024 at 14:59, Dave Taht wrote: > > Honestly, if progress is not made towards making GPON accessible in > FOSS, the next generation of fiber routers will be as locked down as > cablemodems are. While I do know of many ISPs using active ethernet > fiber instead, GPON is big in some

Re: OpenWrt One - celebrating 20 years of OpenWrt

2024-01-09 Thread Dave Taht
Battery power capability? Parts of the world still have their power flicker regularly. Others can be solar powered. What is the projected power consumption of this device? ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org

GPON project?

2024-01-09 Thread Dave Taht
Honestly, if progress is not made towards making GPON accessible in FOSS, the next generation of fiber routers will be as locked down as cablemodems are. While I do know of many ISPs using active ethernet fiber instead, GPON is big in some places. On Tue, Jan 9, 2024 at 7:39 AM Robert Marko

Re: OpenWrt One - celebrating 20 years of OpenWrt

2024-01-09 Thread Chuanhong Guo
Hi! On Tue, Jan 9, 2024 at 6:52 PM John Crispin wrote: > [...] > FAQ > > * Why are there are 2 different flash chips? > - the idea is to make the device (almost!) unbrickable and very easy to > recover What about a built-in JTAG probe instead of SPI-NOR+USB-UART? It'll be actually unbrickable

Re: OpenWrt One - celebrating 20 years of OpenWrt

2024-01-09 Thread Enrico Mioso
Hello!! First of all, let me thank You all for this great project. I wll do my best to buy some units - even tough I am not contributing by any mean to OpenWrt in terms of code, or very little, I am very passionate about this project and the overall router freedom. As most of you know by now,

Re: OpenWrt One - celebrating 20 years of OpenWrt

2024-01-09 Thread Robert Marko
On Tue, 9 Jan 2024 at 13:38, Dave Taht wrote: > > You should talk about this project at FOSSDEM! > > Two potential funders off the top of my head: > > https://nlnet.nl/funding.html > https://www.ardc.net/apply/ > Ardc funded the latest round of the librerouter project in argentina, > which is

Re: OpenWrt One - celebrating 20 years of OpenWrt

2024-01-09 Thread Dave Taht
You should talk about this project at FOSSDEM! Two potential funders off the top of my head: https://nlnet.nl/funding.html https://www.ardc.net/apply/ Ardc funded the latest round of the librerouter project in argentina, which is also openwrt based, but intended for outdoor. a 10 year design

Re: OpenWrt One - celebrating 20 years of OpenWrt

2024-01-09 Thread John Crispin
On 09.01.24 12:56, Robert Marko wrote: ---SNIP--- Why not 6GHz? 6GHz requires an external card, and I doubt you can fit that in the target price. Regards, Robert correct. as mentioned in the email, we wanted to start out small. also upstream mac80211 is still missing a bunch of 11be

Re: OpenWrt One - celebrating 20 years of OpenWrt

2024-01-09 Thread Janusz Dziedzic
wt., 9 sty 2024 o 13:21 Daniel Golle napisał(a): > > On Tue, Jan 09, 2024 at 12:56:55PM +0100, Robert Marko wrote: > > ---SNIP--- > > > > > Why not 6GHz? > > > > 6GHz requires an external card, and I doubt you can fit that in the > > target price. > > Afaik we could use MT7976A as DBDC front-end

Re: OpenWrt One - celebrating 20 years of OpenWrt

2024-01-09 Thread John Crispin
On 09.01.24 12:58, Rafał Miłecki wrote: So are you looking for just a generic interest feedback? Or some technical comments? What are next steps for this project and do you could use some community help? just general feedback. it felt a bit weird to jump straight into voting.     John

Re: OpenWrt One - celebrating 20 years of OpenWrt

2024-01-09 Thread Daniel Golle
On Tue, Jan 09, 2024 at 12:56:55PM +0100, Robert Marko wrote: > ---SNIP--- > > > Why not 6GHz? > > 6GHz requires an external card, and I doubt you can fit that in the > target price. Afaik we could use MT7976A as DBDC front-end supporting 2.4 GHz + 5/6 GHz instead of MT7976C which only supports

Re: OpenWrt One - celebrating 20 years of OpenWrt

2024-01-09 Thread Rafał Miłecki
On 9.01.2024 11:49, John Crispin wrote: If the community likes the idea outlined below in greater details, we would like to start a vote. I'm afraid it's a bit unclear what do you expect here ;) People at IRC started wondering too. I love idea of this project and I'll surely be interested in

Re: OpenWrt One - celebrating 20 years of OpenWrt

2024-01-09 Thread Robert Marko
---SNIP--- > Why not 6GHz? 6GHz requires an external card, and I doubt you can fit that in the target price. Regards, Robert > > BR > > > Janusz > > ___ > openwrt-devel mailing list > openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org >

Re: OpenWrt One - celebrating 20 years of OpenWrt

2024-01-09 Thread Janusz Dziedzic
wt., 9 sty 2024 o 11:54 John Crispin napisał(a): > > tl;dr > > In 2024 the OpenWrt project turns 20 years! Let's celebrate this > anniversary by launching our own first and fully upstream supported > hardware design. > > If the community likes the idea outlined below in greater details, we >

OpenWrt One - celebrating 20 years of OpenWrt

2024-01-09 Thread John Crispin
tl;dr In 2024 the OpenWrt project turns 20 years! Let's celebrate this anniversary by launching our own first and fully upstream supported hardware design. If the community likes the idea outlined below in greater details, we would like to start a vote. --- The idea It is not new. We

Re: [PATCH dt-schema] schemas: chosen: Add OpenWrt LEDs properties for system states

2024-01-09 Thread Krzysztof Kozlowski
On 09/01/2024 09:23, Rafał Miłecki wrote: > From: Rafał Miłecki > > OpenWrt project provides downstream support for thousands of embedded > home network devices. Its custom requirement for DT is to provide info > about LEDs roles. Currently it does it by using custom non-documented > aliases.

[PATCH dt-schema] schemas: chosen: Add OpenWrt LEDs properties for system states

2024-01-09 Thread Rafał Miłecki
From: Rafał Miłecki OpenWrt project provides downstream support for thousands of embedded home network devices. Its custom requirement for DT is to provide info about LEDs roles. Currently it does it by using custom non-documented aliases. While formally valid (aliases.yaml doesn't limit names