4, 2018 1:43 AM
To: Frank Brockners (fbrockne) ; HU, BIN ;
Georg Kunz ; Trevor Bramwell
Cc: opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org
Subject: Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [opnfv-tsc] Discussion of OPNFV Strategic Plan
Hi Frank,
I attempted to make the slide cover everything we do, so that we have a
Hello,
I would like to comment a little bit the removal of "Operate a set of
servers/labs and services (git, gerrit, jenkins,..)".It may partially
work at OPNFV project level but I'm not convinced it's doable
everywhere in OPNFV.I would have thought it's up to OPNFV projects to
ease the reuse by g
rom: Tim Irnich
Sent: Dienstag, 4. Dezember 2018 10:43
To: Frank Brockners (fbrockne) ; BIN HU ;
Georg Kunz ; Trevor Bramwell
Cc: opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org
Subject: Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [opnfv-tsc] Discussion of OPNFV Strategic Plan
Hi Frank,
I attempted to make the slide cove
g, 1. Dezember 2018 13:57
> To: Frank Brockners (fbrockne) ; BIN HU ;
> Georg Kunz ; Trevor Bramwell
>
> Cc: opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org
> Subject: Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [opnfv-tsc] Discussion of OPNFV Strategic
> Plan
>
> Following up on my AP from t
stag, 1. Dezember 2018 13:57
To: Frank Brockners (fbrockne) ; BIN HU ;
Georg Kunz ; Trevor Bramwell
Cc: opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org
Subject: Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [opnfv-tsc] Discussion of OPNFV Strategic Plan
Following up on my AP from this week's TSC call, I went over slides
-discuss] [opnfv-tsc] Discussion of OPNFV Strategic Plan
In the TSC meeting, Manuel voiced a pretty important ask that might help the
discussion moving forward: "Cloud we create a table that compares OPNFV today
with the proposed future", assuming that we'd evolve along the path th
Frank Brockners (fbrockne)"
Date: Friday, November 30, 2018 at 3:45 AM
To: Georg Kunz , "HU, BIN" , Tim
Irnich , Trevor Bramwell
Cc: "opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org"
Subject: Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [opnfv-tsc] Discussion of OPNFV Strategic Plan
In the TSC meeting, M
Frank,
I really like your table. That is quite helpful.
Best,
Ash
From: Frank Brockners (fbrockne)
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 5:45 AM
To: Georg Kunz ; HU, BIN ; Tim
Irnich ; Trevor Bramwell
Cc: AshYoung ; opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org;
opnfv-...@lists.opnfv.org; Manuel
In the TSC meeting, Manuel voiced a pretty important ask that might help the
discussion moving forward: "Cloud we create a table that compares OPNFV today
with the proposed future", assuming that we'd evolve along the path that Bin
started to articulate. The table format is to make things more
Trevor,
Thank you very much for understanding. And yes, we will take as much time as
needed to deep dive the technical discussions at Step 2, and revise/adjust
strategy/direction whenever needed, e.g. based on more information from
technical discussion, emerging technologies and new business ne
Hi Bin,
On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 01:16:30AM +, HU, BIN wrote:
> Trevor,
>
> Thank you so much for spending your time on additional questions. I really
> appreciate it.
>
>
> 1. Regarding supporting resources, I think we discussed it earlier in the
> thread, and we need to enforce the re
Trevor,
Thank you so much for spending your time on additional questions. I really
appreciate it.
1. Regarding supporting resources, I think we discussed it earlier in the
thread, and we need to enforce the resource availability criteria when
approving new projects so that the we will have
Hi Bin,
You wrote:
> Regarding the concern of spending our time to help people use our tools,
> isn't it the usual business we are supposed to do today? For example,
> after we release Gambia, we are supposed to help people use it, right?
> There is a "opnfv-user" mailing list for this purpose.
T
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 1:16 PM
To: HU, BIN ; Georg Kunz ; Tim Irnich
; Trevor Bramwell
Cc: AshYoung ; opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org;
opnfv-...@lists.opnfv.org; Manuel Buil
Subject: Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [opnfv-tsc] Discussion of OPNFV Strategic Plan
Hello,
I don't kn
Hello,
I don't know if the current issues are related to a missing strategy
but I think we are moving away from the project scope.
Why not emphazing here XCI which only supports virtual machine
deployment and the compliance program which mainly includes sparsed
functional tests. But our endusers
Georg,
Thank you for your questions and concerns.
One key role of TSC is to provide direction to the community, which is the
other pillar that strengthens the community-driven approach. The direction from
TSC will inspire the community and represent our community externally, and the
"personal
Hi Bin,
Hi all,
Due to the lively discussions during today's TSC call, the IRC minutes are a
little light [1]. However, I have to voice my concern that I cannot agree with
the following items:
[.]
14:41:31 #info Vote for strategy on Tuesday Dec 4
14:42:01 #info Hopefully everyone will agree
1
Thank you for pointing out one possibility based on the assumption that the
same resources will do both work. The assumption itself may not be true because
there will be different resources to do different work in different projects
(which is the reality today).
So the resource availability is
The way I understand Trevor's concern is that if we start spending more
time on packaging tools and supporting their usage downstream, there
will be less time for doing integration work and driving upstream
production readiness. Which is something I'm concerned about too.
Pretending that this prob
Hi Bin,
Perhaps 'integrated' is a better word here than 'supported'. A lot of
the work in OPNFV involves integrating many of these upstream components
which in turn exposes bugs, or creates features that enable an NFV use
case.
I'm quite terrible with examples, but I'm sure others from the commun
Trevor,
Thank you for your question.
Can you give more details and examples of "doing what we're best at, which is
getting NFV supported by upstream projects."?
Thank you
Bin
-Original Message-
From: Trevor Bramwell
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 4:17 PM
To: HU, BIN
Cc: Tim Irnich
Hi Bin,
I'm still unclear on the first point: "Enabling and automating
stakeholders’ business transformation into DevOps organization"
From what I've read it seems like the suggestion is to package up
everything that makes up OPNFV (Platform, CI/CD piplines, testing /
verification / certification
On 11/26/18 4:40 PM, HU, BIN wrote:
>
> If I understand correctly, Point #1 and #3 are actually the same question,
> i.e. what will we do in the next step?
No, I'm rather suggesting to make sure our understanding is complete
before we proceed. We clearly do not yet sufficiently understand what
e
t;
> Cc: opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org; opnfv-...@lists.opnfv.org
> Subject: RE: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [opnfv-tsc] Discussion of OPNFV
> Strategic Plan
>
> Hi Bin,
>
> My 2 cents from strategy perspective.
>
> I see that Cloud native and micro services mentioned in you
: Monday, November 26, 2018 8:39 AM
To: HU, BIN ; Tim Irnich ; AshYoung
; Georg Kunz ; Manuel Buil
Cc: opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org; opnfv-...@lists.opnfv.org
Subject: RE: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [opnfv-tsc] Discussion of OPNFV Strategic Plan
Hi Bin,
My 2 cents from strategy perspective.
I see
: Monday, November 26, 2018 8:51 AM
To: HU, BIN ; Tim Irnich ; AshYoung
; Georg Kunz
Cc: opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org; opnfv-...@lists.opnfv.org
Subject: Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [opnfv-tsc] Discussion of OPNFV Strategic Plan
Hi Bin,
Reading all your answers (thanks for that!), I think I was
Hi Bin,
Reading all your answers (thanks for that!), I think I was confused
because your slides contain much more content that what you really want
us to approve, right? If I understand correctly, basically tomorrow you
would like the TSC to *only* vote on your proposed "strategy (vision
and direc
Subject: Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [opnfv-tsc] Discussion of OPNFV Strategic Plan
Tim,
Thank you for jumping in and offering your opinion. That's very helpful and
valuable.
If I understand correctly, Point #1 and #3 are actually the same question, i.e.
what will we do in the next step?
- As
-Original Message-
From: Tim Irnich
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 8:37 AM
To: HU, BIN ; AshYoung ; Georg Kunz
; Manuel Buil
Cc: opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org; opnfv-...@lists.opnfv.org
Subject: Re: [opnfv-tsc] Discussion of OPNFV Strategic Plan
Hi all,
having read the entire
Hi all,
having read the entire thread again this morning, I'd like to offer the
following thoughts to hopefully help us make progress:
- We need to make sure the decision we take triggers action and change
(since I think we all agree that we need to change something in OPNFV).
To achieve this, we
Manuel,
Thank you for sharing your more thoughts here. I really appreciate your time
and thinking.
I am not sure if Georg or Ash really meant that we never finished anything
completely. (Correct me if I am wrong). Here is the status:
* We have integrated platform as our main product (throu
Hey Bin,
Let me try to answer combining a bit both email threads. Thanks for
replying by the way!
In line with the ROI statement, as you were saying: "we are setting a
strategy based on potential addressable market and potential customer
needs, and our expertise and strength", I am afraid that th
Hi Georg and Ash,
Thank you very much for sharing your view and concern.
First of all, please refer to the message I sent earlier that tried to answer
Manuel’s concerns. That message outlines the thought-process and my view to
address Manuel’s 3 concerns.
Then back to your concern, i.e. integr
Manuel,
Thank you so much for sharing your concerns. Those are really good points. Let
me try to address it by first starting with a thought-process based on my
experience of how industry is doing things, and then addressing specific
concern.
1. General thought-process
I have been working
Hi Bin, Ash, all,
I’d like to pick up Manuel’s question about the value that our stakeholders
would like to see and Ash’s point of building a reference platform: I believe
that both aspects point towards the need for strengthening our compliance
program – which is already based on a broad base
Hi Bin,
When we first created OPNFV, we set out to resolve the gaps we needed for
the NFVI, which we saw as missing in the various open sourced projects. It
was focused on NFV, not upon being the best installer of OpenStack or some
other component that we said could be leveraged, but which was sti
Hi Bin,
Here are some concerns I have, hopefully I am not the only one:
- By your slides I understand that you suggest to focus on doing work
which could be reused internally by the companies involved in OPNFV to
build their devops platform for NFV solutions. I wonder whether there
is a niche there
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