Re: [OPSAWG] Andrew Alston's Discuss on draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-srv6-srh-13: (with DISCUSS)

2023-05-25 Thread Joel Halpern
I would add that the text about processing such things seems to me to be the typical (and appropriate) use of the Postel Principle, from which we can tell that the important part is the rule earlier in the text that says that EHs occur once each, except for destination options which may occur

Re: [OPSAWG] Andrew Alston's Discuss on draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-srv6-srh-13: (with DISCUSS)

2023-05-25 Thread Thomas.Graf
Hi Med, Thanks a lot for this. I am looking very forward to the discussion in the working group whether/how we will export also the observed occurrences of Routing Types. I believe with the continuous adoption of IPv6 and SRv6 this work will become important to network operators. Best wishes

Re: [OPSAWG] Andrew Alston's Discuss on draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-srv6-srh-13: (with DISCUSS)

2023-05-25 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Rob, I fully agree with your analysis. The good news is that the WG still have the opportunity to address the multiple EH occurrences case, and not specifically for the SRH case. FWIW, https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-boucadair-opsawg-ipfix-tcpo-v6eh-02.txt defines this NEW IE: ==

Re: [OPSAWG] Andrew Alston's Discuss on draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-srv6-srh-13: (with DISCUSS)

2023-05-25 Thread James Guichard
Hi Rob, [adding spring chairs as my comment is directly related to SRv6] I did some digging on this from an SRv6 perspective, and no documents explicitly prohibit using multiple SRH in a packet. However, it is also true that no documents define what a node is supposed to do if it encounters

Re: [OPSAWG] Andrew Alston's Discuss on draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-srv6-srh-13: (with DISCUSS)

2023-05-25 Thread Rob Wilton (rwilton)
Hi, I don't think that John's example is quite the same. The IPv6 packet header format only has a space for a single source address and it is 16 bytes long. Two source addresses or a 20-byte address is clearly an invalid IPv6 packet because it doesn't match the IPv6 packet format. But I

Re: [OPSAWG] Andrew Alston's Discuss on draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-srv6-srh-13: (with DISCUSS)

2023-05-25 Thread Thomas.Graf
Dear Andrew, Thanks a lot for the review and comment. The intent of the authors was never to violate RFC 8200 but help the implementers of draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-srv6-srh how to deal with multiple SRH by referencing to Section 8 of RFC 7011. However, I understand from your feedback that

Re: [OPSAWG] Lars Eggert's No Objection on draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-srv6-srh-13: (with COMMENT)

2023-05-25 Thread Thomas.Graf
Dear Lars, Thanks a lot for the review and comment. I addressed them in -14 version. Htmlized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-srv6-srh Diff: https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-srv6-srh-14 Best wishes Thomas

[OPSAWG] I-D Action: draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-srv6-srh-14.txt

2023-05-25 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This Internet-Draft is a work item of the Operations and Management Area Working Group (OPSAWG) WG of the IETF. Title : Export of Segment Routing over IPv6 Information in IP Flow Information Export

Re: [OPSAWG] Andrew Alston's Discuss on draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-srv6-srh-13: (with DISCUSS)

2023-05-25 Thread Andrew Alston - IETF
Hi Med, Firstly – I need to second what John said below. Secondly, while we can agree that IPFIX supporting this doesn’t violate the RFC – what it does do – is cater explicitly for what I believe is a violation of RFC8200, and that is where I have a problem. While there could be *many*

Re: [OPSAWG] A review of draft-ma-opsawg-ucl-acl

2023-05-25 Thread Adrian Farrel
Resending this cos somehow by autocomplete got mangled. Adrian -Original Message- From: Adrian Farrel Sent: 22 May 2023 09:59 To: 'ops...@ietf.com' Cc: 'draft-ma-opsawg-ucl-...@ietf.org' Subject: A review of draft-ma-opsawg-ucl-acl Hi all, I think that enhancing our ability to

Re: [OPSAWG] Andrew Alston's Discuss on draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-srv6-srh-13: (with DISCUSS)

2023-05-25 Thread John Scudder
Hi Med, Not my DISCUSS, but… I did take a look at that thread earlier and found it somewhat unsatisfying. In particular, I find it a little odd that we feel the need to cover this particular out-of-spec behavior with IPFIX but not others — to take some extreme examples, how would IPFIX handle

Re: [OPSAWG] John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-srv6-srh-12: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2023-05-25 Thread Benoit Claise
Hi Med, Good point. Omitting the IE would work as well. Regards, Benoit From:mohamed.boucadair To:Thomas.Graf ;jgs Cc:The IESG ;draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-srv6-srh ;opsawg-chairs ;opsawg Date:2023-05-25 21:05:58 Subject:RE: John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-srv6-srh-12: (with

Re: [OPSAWG] Andrew Alston's Discuss on draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-srv6-srh-13: (with DISCUSS)

2023-05-25 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Andrew, (replying as the doc shepherd) Éric raised a similar comment. I shared already some context about that section: FYI, this point was discussed in the WG especially that there is no SPING document that motivates/explains the use of multiple SRHs. Please check:

Re: [OPSAWG] John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-srv6-srh-12: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2023-05-25 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Thomas, Why sending a zero length array is needed especially that the decompression is done at the data collector? Shouldn't this just work if srhIPv6Section is omitted when there is no SRH? Cheers, Med > -Message d'origine- > De : thomas.g...@swisscom.com > Envoyé : mercredi 24

[OPSAWG] Andrew Alston's Discuss on draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-srv6-srh-13: (with DISCUSS)

2023-05-25 Thread Andrew Alston via Datatracker
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[OPSAWG] Lars Eggert's No Objection on draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-srv6-srh-13: (with COMMENT)

2023-05-25 Thread Lars Eggert via Datatracker
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