Re: [OPSAWG] AD review of draft-ietf-opsawg-finding-geofeeds-04

2021-04-12 Thread Randy Bush
>>> 3. The definition of canonicalization refers to section 2.2 of RFC >>> 5485 (which talks about ASCII) vs RFC8805 which talks about UTF-8. Is >>> this disparity an issue? >> >> russ, how do you want to handle? > > This is really about line endings, but it would probably be best to > assign a

Re: [OPSAWG] Document Shepherd write-up for draft-ietf-opsawg-finding-geofeeds

2021-02-16 Thread Randy Bush
thanks ggm for a stunningly thorough shepherd's report. i have an -03 revsion in an emacs buffer addressing your comments which i will publish when you, the wg chairs, or ... tell me to do so. randy ___ OPSAWG mailing list OPSAWG@ietf.org

Re: [OPSAWG] Document Shepherd write-up for draft-ietf-opsawg-finding-geofeeds

2021-02-16 Thread Randy Bush
> please push the 03. I think it is very likely to close all the low-level Nits. done randy ___ OPSAWG mailing list OPSAWG@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsawg

Re: [OPSAWG] WG LC: draft-ietf-opsawg-finding-geofeeds

2021-02-17 Thread Randy Bush
> But if a lookup process was interested in finding a geofeed for an IP > address within B, would it have any reason or automated means to > backtrack and lookup knowledge of the signed geofeed for A? Do > inetnum lookups return all superprefix inetnums as well? (asking for > a friend) whoops!

Re: [OPSAWG] WG LC: draft-ietf-opsawg-finding-geofeeds

2021-02-17 Thread Randy Bush
i have reverted the doc in my emacs buffer. -03 stands randy ___ OPSAWG mailing list OPSAWG@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsawg

Re: [OPSAWG] CALL FOR ADOPTION: draft-ymbk-opsawg-9092-update

2023-09-15 Thread Randy Bush
> target="https://sobornost.net/~job/using_geofeed_authenticators.txt;> > > Example on how to use rpki-client to authenticate a signed > Geofeed > > > > thanks >>> In section 5 it is unclear why RPKI-RTA and RFC 9323 are compared to >>> each

Re: [OPSAWG] CALL FOR ADOPTION: draft-ymbk-opsawg-9092-update

2023-09-15 Thread Randy Bush
>>> Ah, ok. For both RSC and RTA distinct properties are listed such as >>> "applicable in long run", "usable", "complex code"; if no comparison is >>> intended I'd just remove the two paragraphs about RTA & RSC. >> >> we seem to be at cross-purposes here. the point was not comparison at >> all.

Re: [OPSAWG] CALL FOR ADOPTION: draft-ymbk-opsawg-9092-update

2023-08-24 Thread Randy Bush
> please resubmit this draft as draft-ietf-opsawg-9092-update-00 > replacing draft-ymbk-opsawg-9092-update. Do not make any other > changes to the document text. done. thanks. randy ___ OPSAWG mailing list OPSAWG@ietf.org

Re: [OPSAWG] CALL FOR ADOPTION: draft-ymbk-opsawg-9092-update

2023-09-12 Thread Randy Bush
ok, i am trying to make some time for this. thanks for the review! > In section 8 'Implementation Status', a reference could be added to > https://www.rpki-client.org/. I extended this RPKI validator > implementation to have the ability to cryptographically verify a given > RPKI-signed Geofeed

Re: [OPSAWG] I-D Action: draft-ietf-opsawg-9092-update-05.txt

2023-10-16 Thread Randy Bush
authors pushed latest revision of $ubject. would very much like some wg members, or anyone actually. to have a look and comment before we decide if it is time to ask for wglc. thavanceanks randy ___ OPSAWG mailing list OPSAWG@ietf.org

Re: [OPSAWG] I-D Action: draft-ietf-opsawg-9092-update-05.txt

2023-10-19 Thread Randy Bush
> authors pushed latest revision of $ubject. would very much like some > wg members, or anyone actually. to have a look and comment before we > decide if it is time to ask for wglc. well, that elicited only one poke (thanks ggm) :( chairs, think a wglc will elicit more? randy

Re: [OPSAWG] I-D Action: draft-ietf-opsawg-9092-update-02.txt

2023-09-19 Thread Randy Bush
> I will work on items 1-4 for the next version. thanks. and thanks job for the careful eyeballs randy ___ OPSAWG mailing list OPSAWG@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsawg

Re: [OPSAWG] I-D Action: draft-ietf-opsawg-9092-update-04.txt

2023-09-25 Thread Randy Bush
> Small nit: the “Error: Spurious zero bits in bitstring.” line in the > dumpasn1 output in Appendix A can be removed, to avoid confusing the > reader. I suspect that particular error message is a bug in dumpasn1 > rather than in the encoding example. thanks. fixed. not worth a new push unless

Re: [OPSAWG] CALL FOR ADOPTION: draft-dahm-tacacs-tls13

2022-07-11 Thread Randy Bush
definitely adopt, please randy ___ OPSAWG mailing list OPSAWG@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsawg

Re: [OPSAWG] I-D Action: draft-dahm-opsawg-tacacs-security-00.txt

2022-06-30 Thread Randy Bush
> As an contributor, I rather like the simpler TLS encap over T+ > approach described in the tls13 draft. I’d personally not > over-engineer something that isn’t immediately required. T+ has been > around for a while and is heavily used. I don’t know that we need to > spend time adding

Re: [OPSAWG] TACACS+ SSH Enhancements Document

2022-11-03 Thread Randy Bush
> - The TACACS+ authentication is extended to allow the TACACS+ client > to request the public keys from the TACACS+ server, to ease ssh-key > management delivered signed by the private key for proof of posession, yes? randy ___ OPSAWG mailing

Re: [OPSAWG] draft-ymbk-opsawg-9092-update-01

2023-07-04 Thread Randy Bush
hi med, >>> (4) Note sure we can mandate by spec how the data can be >>> "consumed". I'm afraid the NEW sentence in the Sec Cons>> isn't >>> useful. I would at least avoid the use of normative language >>> there. >> >> you mean >> >> The consumer of geofeed data SHOULD fetch and

Re: [OPSAWG] draft-ymbk-opsawg-9092-update-01

2023-07-03 Thread Randy Bush
hi med, yay! much thanks for the review. > (1) As a complement to the discussion in the first para of the > Introduction, I would add a note that the source address does not > necessary point to the user. You may add a pointer to > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc6269#autoid-14 when

Re: [OPSAWG] draft-ymbk-opsawg-9092-update-01

2023-07-08 Thread Randy Bush
> I’ve read the original draft and the diff mentioned below. thanks. reviews are hard to find these days. > I think you’ve misspelled RIR as IRR in the diff. do you mean Absent implementation of the geofeed: attribute in a particular IRR database if so, it was intentional. perhaps

Re: [OPSAWG] draft-ymbk-opsawg-9092-update-01

2023-07-08 Thread Randy Bush
> Absent implementation of the geofeed: attribute in a particular IRR > database > > if so, it was intentional. perhaps s/IRR/Whois/? > > JMC: Yep. I see what you’re saying now. I was reading as RIR. I > think IRR is fine, but perhaps it should be expanded like you do RIR > earlier.

Re: [OPSAWG] POLL FOR IPR: draft-ymbk-opsawg-9092-update

2023-08-07 Thread Randy Bush
No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft randy ___ OPSAWG mailing list OPSAWG@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsawg

Re: [OPSAWG] Call for presentation//FW: IETF 117 Preliminary Agenda

2023-06-26 Thread Randy Bush
-01 was just published. the authors believe it is ready for adoption by the opsawg. randy ___ OPSAWG mailing list OPSAWG@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsawg

[OPSAWG] draft-ymbk-opsawg-9092-update-01

2023-06-27 Thread Randy Bush
we have pushed draft-ymbk-opsawg-9092-update-01, see https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ymbk-opsawg-9092-update/ and asked to have a few minutes for it on the agenda next month. as the document says Changes from [RFC9092] include the following: * It is no longer assumed that a geofeed

Re: [OPSAWG] Paul Wouters' Discuss on draft-ietf-opsawg-9092-update-10: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2024-02-14 Thread Randy Bush
>>> The consumer of geofeed data SHOULD fetch and process the data >>> themselves. Importing datasets produced and/or processed by a third- >>> party places significant trust in the third-party. >> >> this is in sec cons already. you want it moved up or duplicated? i >> kinda like it

Re: [OPSAWG] Roman Danyliw's No Objection on draft-ietf-opsawg-9092-update-10: (with COMMENT)

2024-02-14 Thread Randy Bush
thanks roman, > ** Section 3. Editorial. Consider this clarification. > OLD >At the time of publishing this document, change control effectively >lies in the operator community. > > NEW > At the time of publishing this document, change control of RPSL effectively > lies in the operator

Re: [OPSAWG] Roman Danyliw's No Objection on draft-ietf-opsawg-9092-update-10: (with COMMENT)

2024-02-14 Thread Randy Bush
>>Any particular inetnum: object SHOULD have, at most, one geofeed >>reference, whether a remarks: or a proper geofeed: attribute when it >>is implemented. A geofeed: attribute is preferred, of course, if the >>RIR supports it. If there is more than one type of attribute in the

Re: [OPSAWG] Paul Wouters' Discuss on draft-ietf-opsawg-9092-update-10: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2024-02-14 Thread Randy Bush
> Suggested edits: > >The address range of the signing certificate MUST cover all prefixes >in the signed geofeed file. If not, the authenticator is invalid. > >The signing certificate MUST NOT include the Autonomous System >Identifier Delegation certificate extension [RFC3779].

Re: [OPSAWG] Erik Kline's Yes on draft-ietf-opsawg-9092-update-10: (with COMMENT)

2024-02-11 Thread Randy Bush
thanks erik, > * "... processing is too hard." > > Perhaps there's a better wording that might be found here. "imposes > significant computational complexity" or something? how about processing would be quite complex and error prone randy

Re: [OPSAWG] Paul Wouters' Discuss on draft-ietf-opsawg-9092-update-10: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2024-02-13 Thread Randy Bush
thanks for review, paul > #1 document track > > The document is Standards Track, and so are the docs is > Obsoletes/Updates ([RFC2725] and [RFC4012]), but the document also > claims "change control effectively lies in the operator community". > Normally, that would mean the IETF publishes this

Re: [OPSAWG] John Scudder's Yes on draft-ietf-opsawg-9092-update-10: (with COMMENT)

2024-02-13 Thread Randy Bush
> The nit: > > 192.0.2.0/12 (in Section 3) isn’t what I consider a well-formed prefix, since > the third octet has a set bit but isn’t under the mask. I would’ve said > 192.0.0.0/12. (Or better still 192.0/12, but that form seems to be > disfavored.) nit? looks like a full grown bug to me.

Re: [OPSAWG] WG LC: draft-ietf-opsawg-9092-update

2024-01-13 Thread Randy Bush
i just pushed -08 with what i believe to be all fixes from comments on -07. it may be time to push the button on this one. randy ___ OPSAWG mailing list OPSAWG@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsawg

Re: [OPSAWG] WG LC: draft-ietf-opsawg-9092-update

2024-01-13 Thread Randy Bush
>> i just pushed -08 with what i believe to be all fixes from comments on >> -07. it may be time to push the button on this one. > Actually, Joe did that on 2023-11-29, and it is sitting in Rob > Wilton's AD queue… doh. randy ___ OPSAWG mailing list

Re: [OPSAWG] AD review of draft-ietf-opsawg-9092-update-08

2024-01-18 Thread Randy Bush
hi rob, thanks for review. appreciated. > (1) p 4, sec 3. inetnum: Class > >Any particular inetnum: object SHOULD have, at most, one geofeed >reference, whether a remarks: or a proper geofeed: attribute when it >is implemented. If there is more than one, the geofeed: attribute >

Re: [OPSAWG] Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-opsawg-9092-update-06

2023-11-22 Thread Randy Bush
hi > 1. Abbreviations > Severl abbreviations in the newly added text is better to be expanded > on the first use, including Certification Authority (CA), EE > (end-entity), Certificate Revocation List (CRL) and Autonomous System > (AS). done, i hope > 2. Content seems repetitive > Section 3: >

Re: [OPSAWG] Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-opsawg-9092-update-09

2024-01-26 Thread Randy Bush
tim: > (1) The following paragraph appears twice in the document (looks like just a > copy/paste error when moving stuff around): > > "Identifying the private key associated with the certificate and >getting the department that controls the private key (which might be >stored in a

Re: [OPSAWG] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-opsawg-9092-update-09

2024-02-01 Thread Randy Bush
> Q1: There are a few places where the document says "Currently". I'd > prefer to instead say something like "At the time of publishing this > document". I do realize this issue already exists in RFC 9092. sure. thanks. randy ___ OPSAWG mailing list

Re: [OPSAWG] AD review of draft-ietf-opsawg-9092-update-08

2024-01-20 Thread Randy Bush
> Please push -09, and I’ll push to the IETF LC. done randy ___ OPSAWG mailing list OPSAWG@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsawg

Re: [OPSAWG] WG LC: draft-ietf-opsawg-9092-update

2023-11-15 Thread Randy Bush
hi med, thanks a million for the time reviewing > * Abstract: add "This document obsoletes RFC 9092. sure; in my emacs buffer for -07. aside: is this sort of doc tracking in abstracts a fashion? > * Abstract: s/datafiles/data files doh. thanks. > * The changes vs 9092 lists

Re: [OPSAWG] WG LC: draft-ietf-opsawg-9092-update

2023-11-16 Thread Randy Bush
thanks, med. all in emacs buffer for -07. this is wglc. would appreciate more constructive reviews. randy ___ OPSAWG mailing list OPSAWG@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsawg

Re: [OPSAWG] WG LC: draft-ietf-opsawg-9092-update

2023-11-16 Thread Randy Bush
how about rewording to remove second must so we don't need to argue over it? :) OLD: and the file geofeed_1 contains geolocation data about 192.0.2.0/29, this MUST be discarded because 192.0.2.0/24 is within the more specific inetnum: covering the address range and that inetnum: has a

Re: [OPSAWG] Intdir last call review of draft-ietf-opsawg-9092-update-06

2023-11-21 Thread Randy Bush
hi > Reviewer: Sheng Jiang > Review result: Ready with Nits > > Obsolete normative reference: RFC 2818 (Obsoleted by RFC 9110) > Obsolete normative reference: RFC 6486 (Obsoleted by RFC 9286) fixed. thank you! > Downref: Normative reference to an Informational RFC: RFC 8805 been to this

[OPSAWG]Re: NetConfEval: Can LLMs Facilitate Network Configuration?

2024-05-10 Thread Randy Bush
> https://scholar.google.com/scholar_url?url=https://dejankosticgithub.github.io/documents/publications/netconfeval-conext24.pdf=en=X=7785844682567625222=DLI-Zr27FsuNy9YPtfamqA8=AFWwaebA2r_Fw4okI0irTPrMsu7W=scholaralrt=LiEm55wJ:3177637049449935640:AFWwaeY5VE3Htr-mPxtni0xheb_1==2=rel worth a

Re: [OPSAWG] Paul Wouters' No Objection on draft-ietf-opsawg-9092-update-11: (with COMMENT)

2024-02-23 Thread Randy Bush
paul you may, or may not, like -11. we tried to clarify some things a bit better, randy ___ OPSAWG mailing list OPSAWG@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsawg

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