Re: [OPSAWG] VMM-MIB: Proposal: Joe -3 (Was Re: Comments on draft-asai-vmm-mib-04)

2013-10-08 Thread Hirochika Asai
Dear Joe, Thank you for your comment. Let us change these two objects to read-write in the next version. Thank you. Hirochika On Oct 9, 2013, at 3:10 AM, Joe Marcus Clarke jcla...@cisco.com wrote: On 10/8/13 8:07 AM, Hirochika Asai wrote: Hi, I'm working on revising our draft and

Re: [OPSAWG] VMM-MIB: Proposal: Joe -3 (Was Re: Comments on draft-asai-vmm-mib-04)

2013-08-29 Thread ietfdbh
-828-1401 -Original Message- From: opsawg-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:opsawg-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Hirochika Asai Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 4:28 AM To: Joe Marcus Clarke Cc: opsawg@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] VMM-MIB: Proposal: Joe -3 (Was Re: Comments on draft-asai-vmm

Re: [OPSAWG] VMM-MIB: Proposal: Joe -3 (Was Re: Comments on draft-asai-vmm-mib-04)

2013-08-29 Thread Michael MacFaden
Punting the configuration problem to Netconf doesn't reduce the modeling (or operational) complexity presented by read-write objects like these. If you argue instead that they should be read-only, that's another matter (though still fraught with complexity, given the ways Netconf can work)

Re: [OPSAWG] VMM-MIB: Proposal: Joe -3 (Was Re: Comments on draft-asai-vmm-mib-04)

2013-08-29 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
On 8/29/13 3:45 PM, Randy Presuhn wrote: Hi - From: Joe Marcus Clarke jcla...@cisco.com To: Randy Presuhn randy_pres...@mindspring.com Cc: opsawg@ietf.org Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] VMM-MIB: Proposal: Joe -3 (Was Re: Comments on draft-asai-vmm-mib-04

Re: [OPSAWG] VMM-MIB: Proposal: Joe -3 (Was Re: Comments on draft-asai-vmm-mib-04)

2013-08-29 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Joe Marcus Clarke jcla...@cisco.com To: Randy Presuhn randy_pres...@mindspring.com Cc: opsawg@ietf.org Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] VMM-MIB: Proposal: Joe -3 (Was Re: Comments on draft-asai-vmm-mib-04) ... I would be happy with read-only objects

Re: [OPSAWG] VMM-MIB: Proposal: Joe -3 (Was Re: Comments on draft-asai-vmm-mib-04)

2013-08-24 Thread Hirochika Asai
Thank you for your comments and I'm sorry for responding late. On Aug 20, 2013, at 3:37 PM, Juergen Schoenwaelder j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de wrote: Is there a strong push from operators to toggle these values via SNMP? Remeber that this is a MAX-ACCESS. RFC 2578 section 7.3 says

Re: [OPSAWG] VMM-MIB: Proposal: Joe -3 (Was Re: Comments on draft-asai-vmm-mib-04)

2013-08-24 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
On 8/24/13 5:27 AM, Hirochika Asai wrote: Thank you for your comments and I'm sorry for responding late. On Aug 20, 2013, at 3:37 PM, Juergen Schoenwaelder j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de wrote: Is there a strong push from operators to toggle these values via SNMP? Remeber that

Re: [OPSAWG] VMM-MIB: Proposal: Joe -3 (Was Re: Comments on draft-asai-vmm-mib-04)

2013-08-23 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Joe Marcus Clarke jcla...@cisco.com Sent: Aug 23, 2013 11:56 AM To: Michael MacFaden m...@vmware.com, opsawg@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] VMM-MIB: Proposal: Joe -3 (Was Re: Comments on draft-asai-vmm-mib-04) ... My other comment (not quoted here) is that I was asking if some more

Re: [OPSAWG] VMM-MIB: Proposal: Joe -3 (Was Re: Comments on draft-asai-vmm-mib-04)

2013-08-23 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
On 8/23/13 3:41 PM, Randy Presuhn wrote: Hi - From: Joe Marcus Clarke jcla...@cisco.com Sent: Aug 23, 2013 11:56 AM To: Michael MacFaden m...@vmware.com, opsawg@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] VMM-MIB: Proposal: Joe -3 (Was Re: Comments on draft-asai-vmm-mib-04) ... My other comment

Re: [OPSAWG] VMM-MIB: Proposal: Joe -3 (Was Re: Comments on draft-asai-vmm-mib-04)

2013-08-23 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
On 8/23/13 5:01 PM, Michael MacFaden wrote: Hi Joe, Think there is agreement on the list that changes to the objects reported in VMM-MIB are not coming in through SNMP. If VMM-MIB has managed objects whose value are configured via other means *and* the hypervisor in question

Re: [OPSAWG] VMM-MIB: Proposal: Joe -3 (Was Re: Comments on draft-asai-vmm-mib-04)

2013-08-22 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 02:27:08PM -0400, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: That's fair. I was not aware of the ability to adjust VM CPU and memory on the fly without touching the config. That said, I struggle to understand the use case of doing this via SNMP versus a more reliable API. In the MIB

Re: [OPSAWG] VMM-MIB: Proposal: Joe -3 (Was Re: Comments on draft-asai-vmm-mib-04)

2013-08-21 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
On 8/20/13 2:37 AM, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 04:38:28PM -0400, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: We seem to agree on the general scope. Now we have to determine which objects reasonably have a MAX-ACCESS or read-write. For me, it seems that vmAutoStart likely should indeed

Re: [OPSAWG] VMM-MIB: Proposal: Joe -3 (Was Re: Comments on draft-asai-vmm-mib-04)

2013-08-20 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 04:38:28PM -0400, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: We seem to agree on the general scope. Now we have to determine which objects reasonably have a MAX-ACCESS or read-write. For me, it seems that vmAutoStart likely should indeed be read-only. However, as far as I know,

[OPSAWG] VMM-MIB: Proposal: Joe -3 (Was Re: Comments on draft-asai-vmm-mib-04)

2013-08-19 Thread Michael MacFaden
Marking this proposal as Joe-3 JMC: The purpose of this MIB is not to provide configuration of the hypervisor.  Quoting section 3.2: The MIB module provides a few writable objects that can be used to    make non-persistent changes, e.g., changing the memory allocation or    the CPU

Re: [OPSAWG] VMM-MIB: Proposal: Joe -3 (Was Re: Comments on draft-asai-vmm-mib-04)

2013-08-19 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 11:26:06AM -0700, Michael MacFaden wrote: Marking this proposal as Joe-3 JMC: The purpose of this MIB is not to provide configuration of the hypervisor.  Quoting section 3.2: The MIB module provides a few writable objects that can be used to    make

Re: [OPSAWG] VMM-MIB: Proposal: Joe -3 (Was Re: Comments on draft-asai-vmm-mib-04)

2013-08-19 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
On 8/19/13 2:26 PM, Michael MacFaden wrote: Marking this proposal as Joe-3 JMC: The purpose of this MIB is not to provide configuration of the hypervisor. Quoting section 3.2: The MIB module provides a few writable objects that can be used to make non-persistent changes, e.g.,

Re: [OPSAWG] VMM-MIB: Proposal: Joe -3 (Was Re: Comments on draft-asai-vmm-mib-04)

2013-08-19 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
On 8/19/13 2:34 PM, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 11:26:06AM -0700, Michael MacFaden wrote: Marking this proposal as Joe-3 JMC: The purpose of this MIB is not to provide configuration of the hypervisor. Quoting section 3.2: The MIB module provides a few writable