Re: beq processes preventing shutdown

2003-05-27 Thread AK
check for any jobs running ? -ak - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 5:39 AM Our sysadmin tells me he's been experiencing problems sometimes, when trying to shutdown an Oracle 8.1.7 instance on a Solaris 64-bit

Space Remaining in Current Extent

2003-05-27 Thread Kevin Lange
Hey guys; Does anyone know where I can look to find the space remaining in an individual extent ?? I know that you can get the freespace from dba_free_space but that seems to be based only on unallocated extents. I have been asked to find out, down to the byte, how much free space is available

RE: Oracle, IBM fight of whose DB is more manageable

2003-05-27 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
the sad part is that universitied need funding, so government can always find some professor somewhere who is willing to get paid to do policy science. Patrice. -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 12:40 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Patrice, I have

RE: Alternative way to write delete query

2003-05-27 Thread Igor Neyman
Small correction for SQL Server / Sybase, if anyone cares, of course -:) Delete table1 from table_a where column1 = col_a or column1 = col_b Igor Neyman, OCP DBA [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- OLLIG Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 9:35 AM To: Multiple recipients of list

RE: Transaction Isolation levels in Oracle!

2003-05-27 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Has anyone found a practical use for these isolation levels? My impression is they are mainly offered to: 1. Meet ANSI requirements. 2. Help code port unchanged from other systems. 3. Lure the unwary into using them and causing performance issues in their system. My experience has been that Oracle

ocp discount

2003-05-27 Thread AK
I heard/read they give 20% discount on ocp exam fee if u are registered with technet . Can any body confirm that . How do I get that discount ? -ak

RE: Re: Sizing - RAC, storage subsystem EMC

2003-05-27 Thread Stephen Lee
-Original Message- Can someone please suggest if it is a basic database design flaw which leads to the requirement of such costly technologies like RAC in the first place? (I mean if the dataset is huge why not use transportable tablespaces and keep 'regularly purging' the

RE: ocp discount

2003-05-27 Thread April Wells
yes they do. to get it, you register with technet. otn.oracle.com April Wells Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA Corporate Systems Amarillo Texas You will recognize your own path when you come upon it, because you will suddenly have all the energy and imagination you will ever need. ~ Jerry

RE: Transaction Isolation levels in Oracle!

2003-05-27 Thread Regis Biassala
I agree at 500% with you...Leave oracle isolates the transaction...You, concentrate on your coding standard instead. Regis -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 5:45 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Has anyone found a practical use for these isolation levels? My

Redo generation rate

2003-05-27 Thread SARKAR, Samir
All, Can anybody please help me on this : We are trying to find out the bandwidth required for keeping our DR database updated using Dataguard. There is an equation the networking guys use for this but I need to give them the redo generation rate or redo copy rate in bytes per second. Is there

would imp speed affect by setting indexes to NOLOGGING?

2003-05-27 Thread gmei
Hi, Would the imp speed increase by setting all indexes to NOLOGGING? I have a schema with 249 tables and 442 indexes and I have a weekly schema refresh program running as this: exp schema from Server A (Oracle 8173 on Sun Solaris box) ftp dump file from Server A to Server B, the dump file size

Re: RE: Oracle, IBM fight of whose DB is more manageable

2003-05-27 Thread rgaffuri
there are also stupid ones too. I was pointed to a study on a Sybase usenet where they said sybase was 1000% faster than Oracle when you have 250 users and something like 1TB of data. They contacted oracle and oracle told them to use shared server. The sybase guys thought Oracle was pulling

Re: RE: ocp discount

2003-05-27 Thread rgaffuri
im registered with technet and when i signed up to take my tests with prometric? I was charged the same $125/test? From: April Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/05/27 Tue PM 01:04:44 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ocp discount yes they do.

Re: Redo generation rate

2003-05-27 Thread tim
Samir, I find this query useful... select first_time, mb, mb - (avg(mb) over ()) dev_from_avg from(select trunc(first_time) first_time, sum(blocks*block_size)/1048576 mb fromv$archived_log

Re: would imp speed affect by setting indexes to NOLOGGING?

2003-05-27 Thread Ron Thomas
Have you considered dropping the indexes before import, then rebuilding parallel nologging? Ron Thomas Hypercom, Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Each new user of a new system uncovers a new class of bugs. -- Kernighan

RE: RE: ocp discount

2003-05-27 Thread April Wells
Title: RE: RE: ocp discount when you signed up with technet there should have been an announcement or a splash screen that gave you a discount code... you have to type that in when you register for the tests. Don't remember what the code was, off hand, but I remember it was delivered in one

RE: would imp speed affect by setting indexes to NOLOGGING?

2003-05-27 Thread gmei
Everything in the schema on Server B is dropped before import, so I have an empty schema to begin with. I am not sure I understand what you meant by dropping the indexes before import? Did you mean export/import indexes separately? I guess I could do that. Right now I just try to keep the program

RE: RE: ocp discount

2003-05-27 Thread M Rafiq
OTN20 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 10:01:44 -0800 when you signed up with technet there should have been an announcement or a splash screen that gave you a discount code... you have to type that in when you register

RE: would imp speed affect by setting indexes to NOLOGGING?

2003-05-27 Thread Goulet, Dick
No logging only works for the initial creation of an object. Thereafter Oracle has to log the changes. Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 1:50 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Have you considered dropping

DBA position

2003-05-27 Thread M Rafiq
Hi Just laidoff due down sizing. Will appreciate good pointers to look for DBA positions with Oracle Fianancials back ground in New Jersyey and New York, besides monster, dice and net-temp or any good recruitor. I shall appreciate your assistance. May be contacted off list. Regards Rafiq

RE: Redo generation rate

2003-05-27 Thread Stephen Lee
This might give you a good idea: select to_char(first_time,'MM/DD/ HH24:MI') YEEHAA from v$log_history; We are trying to find out the bandwidth required for keeping our DR database updated using Dataguard. There is an equation the networking guys use for this but I need to give them

RE: RE: ocp discount

2003-05-27 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
When you signed up for the exam, there was a question as to whether you had any discount codes. It is the same screen that asks if you are an Oracle employee. If you enter the code on that screen, then you receive the discount. Dennis Williams DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL

Re: thanks all/OCP

2003-05-27 Thread Joan Hsieh
Cyril, we need some encouragements on those who has the experiences and also has ocp. As Rafig said, if I don't continue updated my ocp, I just know something I have done, limited to my experiences. With ocp, I know WHAT, then I know HOW Joan M Rafiq wrote: Cyril, One positive point...

RE: would imp speed affect by setting indexes to NOLOGGING?

2003-05-27 Thread Kirtikumar Deshpande
In respone to someone's question about improving exp/imp speed I had posted the following quite some time ago. Most of it may help you. - Kirti This one is a rather long one.. Sorry.. Prepare scripts to build tables, indexes and constraints etc.. Prebuild the tables in the target database. I

RE: Oracle, IBM fight of whose DB is more manageable

2003-05-27 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Patrice Take a look at: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,7275,00.asp It is about a year old, but is the review that comes close to your request. Dennis Williams DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 10:20 AM To:

RE: Space Remaining in Current Extent

2003-05-27 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Kevin - Since you haven't received any replies, here goes. Within an extent, Oracle uses blocks. I haven't seen a way to find the used space within a block. There are methods to find the number of empty blocks underneath the high water mark. Analyze does that, but you've ruled that out. It might

RE: Space Remaining in Current Extent

2003-05-27 Thread Kevin Lange
As to what this is for . I have a request to come up with a way to guage space remaining on an on going basis i.e.If I look at the space available between 2 different user transactions I will see a difference. Most of the methods I have seen so far either rely on Analyze or show

RE: Oracle, IBM fight of whose DB is more manageable

2003-05-27 Thread Niall Litchfield
Patrice writes When I took sociology they decried the use of what they called policy science, where someone has an objective but wants to find the best way to get there. (e.g. we want the best education system at a budget reduced by 15 percent. Then they turn around an talk about

what grant am I missing?

2003-05-27 Thread rgaffuri
I am trying to issue the following statement. I have SELECT priviledges on the proper table. I am in Schema A, I am trying to create a table which is owned by Schema B. I can do this out of SQLPLUS. I cannot figure out what grant Im missing. I have create table. Im just doing execute

Re: thanks all/OCP

2003-05-27 Thread M Rafiq
Joan excellent. thanks, Regards Rafiq Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 11:09:41 -0800 Cyril, we need some encouragements on those who has the experiences and also has ocp. As Rafig said, if I don't continue updated

RE: Space Remaining in Current Extent

2003-05-27 Thread Rachel Carmichael
dbms_space.unused_space will give you the total blocks allocated and the unused blocks. You get of 300 blocks allocated, unused blocks=45. It won't give you of used block 10, there are 300 bytes free but I don't know of anything that does that. --- Kevin Lange [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As to

RE: Space Remaining in Current Extent

2003-05-27 Thread Thomas Day
I'm not sure if this is any help: --block_e_byte.sql /* The Oracle blocks used by a given table and the corresponding bytes. */ --Inspired by a posting by [EMAIL PROTECTED] on ORACLE-L --Requires one parameter, the table name. SELECT COUNT (DISTINCT DBMS_ROWID.ROWID_BLOCK_NUMBER(rowid)||

Re: AW: Sizing - RAC, storage subsystem EMC

2003-05-27 Thread Mogens Nørgaard
I can see you point. Yet an IO is an IO is an IO. As Gaja's excellent presentation at the Hotsos Symposium in Dallas documented, there's about eight levels between the OS and the disk plate. Yet the disk plate delivers either 50 or about 100 IOPS. And Oracle requests IO's from the OS. That's

Re: Space Remaining in Current Extent

2003-05-27 Thread Stephane Faroult
Kevin Lange wrote: As to what this is for . I have a request to come up with a way to guage space remaining on an on going basis i.e.If I look at the space available between 2 different user transactions I will see a difference. Most of the methods I have seen so far either

RE: Space Remaining in Current Extent

2003-05-27 Thread John Kanagaraj
Kevin, Also look at AVG_SPACE_FREELIST_BLOCKS which is the average freespace of all blocks on a freelist, and NUM_FREELIST_BLOCKS which is the number of blocks on the freelist. Of course, this is available after an ANALYZE... This is available for INSERTs. John Kanagaraj Oracle Applications DBA

RE: Space Remaining in Current Extent

2003-05-27 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Kevin - The following may be useful in your quest as well: Diego Cutrone posted this 1/18/2002 This query will count how many blocks have data (at least one row) and are below the HWM: select count(distinct substr(rowid,15,4)||substr(rowid,1,8)) from TABLE; Dennis Williams DBA, 80%OCP, 100%

Re: Redo generation rate

2003-05-27 Thread Jared . Still
Oooh, that's a keeper. :) Jared [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/27/2003 10:50 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Redo generation rate Samir, I find this query

Re: Space Remaining in Current Extent

2003-05-27 Thread Jared . Still
Kevin, Is this for capacity planning? Jared Kevin Lange [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/27/2003 09:15 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Space Remaining in Current

Re: Space Remaining in Current Extent

2003-05-27 Thread Daniel W. Fink
Kevin, Unfortunately, there is not a way to find out the space available in an extent, without doing block dumps. Why is this the only 'accurate' method? 1) Using rowid will not work because it only records the rowid of the head piece of a chained/continued row. This makes blocks appear

RE: Space Remaining in Current Extent

2003-05-27 Thread Goulet, Dick
I'll beg/borrow steal from John Beresniewicz's book on Oracle Built-in Packages by O'Reilly RevealNet to give you an answer. Here is the script that John provides with the book. I use it in a somewhat different form, but it appears to tell the truth. DECLARE free_blocks NUMBER; BEGIN

RE: Is there an Oracle 9i on 32-bit ??

2003-05-27 Thread Leyden, Joseph
Is there an Oracle 9i on 32-bit ?? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Leyden, Joseph INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services

Re: RE: ocp discount

2003-05-27 Thread AK
Title: RE: RE: ocp discount is it OTN20 ? -ak - Original Message - From: April Wells To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 11:01 AM Subject: RE: RE: ocp discount when you signed up with technet there should have been an

10053 trace

2003-05-27 Thread Sai Selvaganesan
hi gurus i am trying to generate 10053 trace in 9i and have met with no success. i used both 'alter session set events' and 'dbms_system.set_ev'. i used the above two to generate 10053 trace for the same query in 8i w/o problems. has anything changed in 9i? can you please help me on this?

Re: Is there an Oracle 9i on 32-bit ??

2003-05-27 Thread Mogens Nørgaard
Yes. What platform are you interested in? 64 is a bigger number than 32. Therefor the human mind tends to like it better. Man, I can't wait for the 512-bit OS'es. The Law Of Bigger Numbers (LOB-N) applies everywhere you go. This is just one LOB. There are other LOBs. LOB-D (Law Of Bigger

pmon timer

2003-05-27 Thread Kevin Tsay
Dear Lister: I'm using one of Steve Adams's scripts to break down the components of foreground response time. I found the pmon timer is taking about 63.59% out of other components. Although some of the tuning documents suggesting ignore this event but it still took a lots of time. Any thoughts

RE: Alternative way to write delete query

2003-05-27 Thread Mark Richard
This is quite close to what I was thinking of however it doesn't seem to work for Oracle. Does anyone know if there is similar syntax available in the Oracle world? I've looked at the Oracle (8.1.7) doco but can't see how I can achieve what I want to do.

Re: RE: ocp discount

2003-05-27 Thread Shamita Singh
Yes, that's it. Shamita Singh AK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is it OTN20 ? -ak - Original Message - From: April Wells To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 11:01 AM Subject: RE: RE: ocp discount when you signed up with technet there should have been

Re: Is there an Oracle 9i on 32-bit ??

2003-05-27 Thread Ray Stell
On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 03:19:40PM -0800, Leyden, Joseph wrote: Is there an Oracle 9i on 32-bit ?? http://otn.oracle.com/software/products/oracle9i/content.html Oracle9i Release 2 (9.2.0.1) Oracle9i Database Release 2 Enterprise/Standard/Personal/Client Edition for Windows Server 2003

RE: Is there an Oracle 9i on 32-bit ??

2003-05-27 Thread Gogala, Mladen
Yes. Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA Phone:(203) 459-6855 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 7:20 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Is there an Oracle 9i on 32-bit ?? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author:

RE: Oracle, IBM fight of whose DB is more manageable

2003-05-27 Thread Gogala, Mladen
What is a predictable corporate environment? I know of no such thing. Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA Phone:(203) 459-6855 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 4:50 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Both will do most jobs, with Oracle excelling in

Re: Re: thanks all/OCP

2003-05-27 Thread Cyril Thankappan
Hi, I am sorry if I sounded discouraging. That wasnt the idea. anyway if the idea or point was missed I guess it is not anyway worth labouring on it :) Best Regards Cyril On Wed, 28 May 2003 Joan Hsieh wrote : Cyril, we need some encouragements on those who has the experiences and also

RE: what grant am I missing?

2003-05-27 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: what grant am I missing? as sys grant select on schemac.table to you; grant create any table to you; (optionally) Happy birthday to you !! Raj -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 4:20 PM To: Multiple

Re: pmon timer

2003-05-27 Thread Kirtikumar Deshpande
All those documents are correct. PMON just waits while there is no work for it to do. This wait event does not affect database performance. - Kirti --- Kevin Tsay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Lister: I'm using one of Steve Adams's scripts to break down the components of foreground

Re: 10053 trace

2003-05-27 Thread Kirtikumar Deshpande
It has worked for me in 9i as well. What is it that you are not getting? Please review Wolfgang's 10053 Events paper at http://www.centrexcc.com. He may have any 9i specific information. - Kirti --- Sai Selvaganesan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi gurus i am trying to generate 10053 trace in

Re: 10053 trace

2003-05-27 Thread Wolfgang Breitling
At 04:15 PM 5/27/2003 -0800, you wrote: hi gurus i am trying to generate 10053 trace in 9i and have met with no success. i used both 'alter session set events' and 'dbms_system.set_ev'. i used the above two to generate 10053 trace for the same query in 8i w/o problems. has anything changed in 9i?

Re: 10053 trace

2003-05-27 Thread Sai Selvaganesan
hi thanks for the info.i could make it work for some 9i sqls but a particular sql is not generating trace. the 10053 trace file has only the query para but no other details. the query selects from a simple view built on a table. will this make a difference? here is the query select id from

Re: 10053 trace

2003-05-27 Thread Tim Gorman
Sai, First, make sure you can create and locate a regular SQL Trace file, using either ALTER SESSION SET SQL_TRACE = TRUE or ALTER SESSION SET EVENTS '10046 trace name context forever, level 1' (preferably the latter, since the syntax is so similar to 10053)... Then, make sure you are using the