RE: composite primary key versus unique index

2003-07-10 Thread GKor
i did exactly the first thing you named. RE: composite primary key versus unique index ---BeginMessage--- You mean you created an index A on the table with the descending column order, and then added a primary key constraint, which created another index on the same columns (except that all the

RE: tunning an index built

2003-07-10 Thread Niall Litchfield
Hi all. Thanks to all who replied. I'm still trying to speed the things up and wondering whether someone can explain what is paging to file system is referring to? Does this indicate that I don't have enough memory? Is it related to reads? Anything else? Yes it does relate to a lack of

Re: Firewall -- ORA-12535: TNS:operation timed out

2003-07-10 Thread Manoj Kumar Jha
also check the value of CONNECT_TIMEOUT_lsnr, its default value is 10 (secs). - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 11:04 AM Oh boy! You need to fix that firewall. You should a) allow your local nodes to go out on

RE: Tech meetings

2003-07-10 Thread Robson, Peter
--_=_NextPart_001_01C346BE.A37BB570 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Didn't this guy get himself an entry in the Darwin awards? Sounds familiar...=20 A RR jet engine in a car Cute idea! There is an urban legend about a military guy

Re: trigger and LogMiner

2003-07-10 Thread Pete Finnigan
Hi Arup and Joe When I wrote the SANS Oracle security step-by-step book I wrote in there the list of restrictions for log miner including that is didn't support selects and during the review process of my book someone in Oracle who was reviewing it informed me that selects would be in the redo in

RE: Restricting access via sqlplus

2003-07-10 Thread Simon . Anderson
We used a similar idea on an in-house application - hard-coded the role password into the application. Neither approach is perfect, if someone wanted to try hard enough they could reverse-engineer the app, or try and pick up the password by spying on the sql*net connection. For practical

Re: Moving LOB Storage and Index

2003-07-10 Thread DEEDSD
I seem to recall from Jonathan Lewis' book that moving a LOB index after creation was possible in some versions of 8.0, but no longer possible in 8i. Unfortunately, I don't have the book in front of me right now so I can't say for sure.

Re: Firewall -- ORA-12535: TNS:operation timed out

2003-07-10 Thread Mladen Gogala
If packets are dropped, increasing timeout will not help. There are things in this world which cannot be done by modifying oracle parameter values. On 2003.07.10 05:19, Manoj Kumar Jha wrote: also check the value of CONNECT_TIMEOUT_lsnr, its default value is 10 (secs). - Original Message -

Re: trigger and LogMiner

2003-07-10 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi! Maybe they were thinking that if you audit select statements, you can analyze inserts on AUD$ using logminer later on Anyway, if there's any future release where selects can be in redo, I hope they aren't there by default.. Tanel. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of

Re: Restricting access via sqlplus

2003-07-10 Thread Pete Finnigan
Hi Jacques, It sounds like the encrypted password is read by the client? and decrypted on the client? or in the database as a package procedure?. If it was decrypted in the client and then the set role command was sent to the database the password could be read from the network with a tool such

Multiple addreses in tns

2003-07-10 Thread Bob Metelsky
Is having multiple addresses valid for a tns entry? A client provided this to me and initailly looked invalid alias = (DESCRIPTION = (ADDRESS_LIST = (ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = 10.5.141.22)(PORT = 1521)) (ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = 10.5.141.22)(PORT = 1526))

Re: Multiple addreses in tns

2003-07-10 Thread Rachel Carmichael
it's valid. if there is no response on the first port, Oracle tries the next etc etc etc. It's a means of failover or allowing for continuity of connections while doing maintenance on a listener or server --- Bob Metelsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is having multiple addresses valid for a tns

RE: Multiple addreses in tns

2003-07-10 Thread Jack van Zanen
I think this is used in Parallel server environments. I have seen something similar (maybe not exactly) so it could well be valid. My understanding is that it should be working it's way down the list or pick a random address depending on (not much experience with OPS/RAC) Jack -Original

RE: Multiple addreses in tns

2003-07-10 Thread Gogala, Mladen
Add FAILOVER=ON and it will check the next address if the previous one has failed. Alternatively, use SOURCE_ROUTE=ON and it will check every single one of them if the previous one fails. Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA Phone:(203) 459-6855 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent:

RE: Multiple addreses in tns

2003-07-10 Thread Bob Metelsky
Thanks Rachael Getting some more feedback on this What this appears to be is a cluster configuration with a middle ware capability ( like Oracle FailSafe) to fail a database over from one node to its backup. This would be the reason each IP is configured with two ports. That sounds

RE: Do Not Call

2003-07-10 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Stephen From what I understand from our Web administrator, the netcraft site just reports the web server that is used, not the application server or database. Dennis Williams DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Location of trace files and alert log

2003-07-10 Thread Nguyen, David M
Title: Location of trace files and alert log How do I locate where all trace files and alert log are saved? There is no parameter setup in init.ora file. Thanks, David

RE: Location of trace files and alert log

2003-07-10 Thread Erik Williams
Title: Location of trace files and alert log SQLshow parameter background_dump_dest SQLshow parameter user_dump_dest -Original Message-From: Nguyen, David M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 11:44 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject:

Oracle on a mainframe (MVS)

2003-07-10 Thread Terrian, Tom (Contractor) (DAASC)
Title: Message We have a future needto create an Oracle database on a mainframe (MVS) which will then pull data from an Oracle database on an HPUX box. I know nothing about MVS so does anyone know of any connectivity problems between the two boxes? For example,SQL*Netdoes come with the

Re: Location of trace files and alert log

2003-07-10 Thread Joe Testa
query v$parameter? joe Nguyen, David M wrote: How do I locate where all trace files and alert log are saved? There is no parameter setup in init.ora file. Thanks, David -- Joseph S Testa Chief Technology Officer Data Management Consulting p: 614-791-9000 f: 614-791-9001 -- Please see the

RE: Location of trace files and alert log

2003-07-10 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: Location of trace files and alert log Yes thereare ... Originally called ... SAVE_ALERT_LOGFILE_DIR and SAVE_USER_TRACEFILE_DIR ... but they were replaced with various *_DUMP_DEST parameters ... because the committee who certifies and performs code reviews didn't have sense of humor.

9iAs rel1 1.0.2.2.2.

2003-07-10 Thread Singh Pushpinder
--_=_NextPart_001_01C346F5.C2C8F737 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All, =20 =20 We are implementing portal 9iAS rel1 and for the failover purposes we are t= rying to find out if it is possible to have the two nodes (iAS homes) point=

RE: Oracle on a mainframe (MVS)

2003-07-10 Thread Nelson, Allan
Title: Message I have done a little of this. TNS is there but I don't know about Pro*Cobol, I would assume so. Database links between MVS and HPUX work as expected. Allan -Original Message-From: Terrian, Tom (Contractor) (DAASC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday,

RE: Oracle on a mainframe (MVS)

2003-07-10 Thread Terrian, Tom (Contractor) (DAASC)
Title: Message great, thanks Allan -Original Message-From: Nelson, Allan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 12:19 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Oracle on a mainframe (MVS) I have done a little of this. TNS is there but I

RE: Multiple addreses in tns

2003-07-10 Thread Wolfgang Breitling
Works for me. I just did a the test on Oracle 8.1.7. Here is the trace file. Note the nsopen: unable to open transport after trying to find host fleming. Then it goes on to try host altair which succeeds. One thing though. The host must not exist or be unreachable. If the host is reachable but

RE: Oracle on a mainframe (MVS)

2003-07-10 Thread Stephane Paquette
Title: Message I've started with Oracle 5 on MVS a very long time ago, ProCobol was there. It is probably still there since it is the most popular language on mainframes. Stephane Paquette Administrateur de bases de donnees Database Administrator Standard Life www.standardlife.ca

RE: RAC system Calls

2003-07-10 Thread K Gopalakrishnan
Ravi: Do you have a statspack report? I would like to see that. But in any case, 45% kernel is just too much? BTW have you verified the private interconnect is used for cache fusion transfer.. Make sure the cache fusion is not going thru the public network. Best Regards, K Gopalakrishnan

RAC time clocks (sysdate)

2003-07-10 Thread Nick Wagner
In a RAC environment, what is the best way to synchronize the time clocks on the nodes? It seams I came across a case where select sysdate from dual; produced two different values. Thanks! Nick -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Nick Wagner INET:

Re: RAC system Calls

2003-07-10 Thread Mladen Gogala
I had a similar experience on OPS when we tried with releasable locks. What is the platform? What kind of interconnect do you have? On 2003.07.10 12:44, K Gopalakrishnan wrote: Ravi: Do you have a statspack report? I would like to see that. But in any case, 45% kernel is just too much? BTW have

RE: RAC system Calls

2003-07-10 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: RAC system Calls You seem to have timed_statistics=TRUE right ?? in RAC you will ALWAYS see GCS pings ... basically as long as cluster_database=true, even if only one node is running, you will still see Oracle trying to ping other instances. My guess is that's what is happening

Time Accounting Application

2003-07-10 Thread Goulet, Dick
To ALL, If any of you have an Time accounting application in house called Smart Time, would you please reply privately? I've a few questions. Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Goulet, Dick

RE: RAC system Calls

2003-07-10 Thread Matthew Zito
And are you using jumbo frames on your interconnect? That can make a significant contribution to reducing overhead from a system standpoint. Thanks, Matt -- Matthew Zito GridApp Systems Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 646-220-3551 Phone: 212-358-8211 x 359 http://www.gridapp.com -Original

RE: RAC time clocks (sysdate)

2003-07-10 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: RAC time clocks (sysdate) Our sysadmins use ntp or something like that ... Raj Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com All Views expressed in this email are strictly personal. QOTD: Any clod can

OT: OAUG Database SIG Elections

2003-07-10 Thread Michael Brown
The Oracle Applications Users Group Database SIG will be holding elections for Vice Chairman and Secretary on September 14 at the OAUG conference in San Diego. If anyone is interested in being an officer, please go to our website for more information (http://datasig.oaug.org). -- Michael Brown

High availability and upgrades

2003-07-10 Thread Paul Baumgartel
We're considering high availability options. One of our requirements is to be able to take one database offline (i.e., direct all application connections to a second database server), perform database and application upgrades, and perform a few hours' worth of tests before bringing it back

RE: RAC time clocks (sysdate)

2003-07-10 Thread Jesse, Rich
Exactly. Surf over to http://www.ntp.org and follow the links to download (binaries or source), install, and configure. If it were me doing it, I'd probably setup an existing local non-RAC Internet-connected server (if available) with ntp to sync to an external stratum-2 server (see ntp docs for

RE: RAC time clocks (sysdate)

2003-07-10 Thread Nick Wagner
Title: RE: RAC time clocks (sysdate) thanks! -Original Message-From: Jamadagni, Rajendra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 10:40 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: RAC time clocks (sysdate) Our sysadmins use ntp or something like that .. Raj

Re: High availability and upgrades

2003-07-10 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi! Is this your own-written app? If you want performance, control and no-data-loss reliability: 1) Have 2 completely independent databases 2) Have your application servers multiplex all DML requests to both database servers That means, if your client inserts something, then app

RE: RAC time clocks (sysdate)

2003-07-10 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: RAC time clocks (sysdate) Yup ... we got redundant time servers on dedicated boxes ... they feed to unix/windowz clients. No production boxes are EVER exposed to ANYTHING outside a firewall. Raj

ORA-01722 while using sqlldr

2003-07-10 Thread Saira Somani-Mendelin
I'm hoping for expert assistance. I'm using SQL*Loader to load some 2200+ records (comma delimited) into a table and running into this problem for the modcnt field: The control file reads: modcnt DECIMAL EXTERNAL -- I'm sure this is where my problem is. I have tried almost every datatype that

Re: High availability and upgrades

2003-07-10 Thread Paul Baumgartel
It is our own application. That's an interesting approach, thanks! --- Tanel Poder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Is this your own-written app? If you want performance, control and no-data-loss reliability: 1) Have 2 completely independent databases 2) Have your application servers

Re: High availability and upgrades

2003-07-10 Thread Rachel Carmichael
are you suggesting that they basically write their own home-grown version of replication? If so, I believe Peter Robson has already done this in his shop and may be able to share the code, or at least give a list of gotchas. seems a bit excessive and prone to error and failure to me. ---

RE: High availability and upgrades

2003-07-10 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: High availability and upgrades Tanel, points 1 2 isn't it like using data guard ?? Raj Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com All Views expressed in this email are strictly personal.

RE: RAC system Calls

2003-07-10 Thread Ravi Kulkarni
Matt, What are jumbo frames? Are these assigning private network IPs to cluster_interconnects parameter? -Ravi. --- Matthew Zito [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And are you using jumbo frames on your interconnect? That can make a significant contribution to reducing overhead from a system

dbms_repair question

2003-07-10 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: dbms_repair question Okay ... so I used dbms_repair today for the first time ... found one corrupt row in a table. dbms_repair.check_object populated the repair_Table and data shows corrupt_type = 6148 and corrupt_description is null. This gives me no clue ... so does anyone know what

RE: RAC time clocks (sysdate)

2003-07-10 Thread Matthew Zito
Title: Message Beware, NTP can be a complicated critter to get working in a proper fashion. The best way to configure your NTP is to have one ortwo local stratum 2 or stratum 3 servers that all of your nodes sync off of (a good choice for these servers are servers that do other low-load

RE: RAC system Calls

2003-07-10 Thread Matthew Zito
Jumbo frames are the use of larger than normal MTU (Maximum Transmission Unit) settings on gigabit Ethernet links. The traditional limit for Ethernet frames is 1500 bytes, which was fine for 10 and 100 megabit Ethernet links. With gigabit, however, since you lose a certain minimum amount of

8.1.7.4 doesn't take stirped raw LVs for redo and rollback. HPUX

2003-07-10 Thread Jessica Mao
can anyone please help? errors like below when any of the redo or rollback raw LVs are created using stripe: CREATE TABLESPACE RBS DATAFILE '/dev/vgrbs/rrbs01.dbf' SIZE 8000M REUSE AUTOEXTEND OFF MINIMUM EXTENT 512K DEFAULT STORAGE ( INITIAL 512K NEXT 512K MINEXTENTS 8 MAXEXTENTS UNLIMITED )

Re: High availability and upgrades

2003-07-10 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi! I wouldn't call it replication, because data is not replicated from one database to other. The DML feed always goes from app servers to all active databases. One database doesn't even have to know about existence of other one during normal operations, it's done on app server (client) level.

Re: High availability and upgrades

2003-07-10 Thread Tanel Poder
Title: RE: High availability and upgrades Hi! In data guard, when you do a DML, it first goes to primary instance log buffers, then to redolog, then to standby host using log transport services, then applied to stanby using log apply services. Thus, in data guard maximum protection mode

RE: RAC time clocks (sysdate)

2003-07-10 Thread Jesse, Rich
Hey Matt! I thought that it was a bit of proper manners to avoid hitting the public stratum-1 servers unless you were planning on being a public stratum-2, just to avoid overloading the stratum-1s. Thoughts? Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator Quad/Tech Inc. A Subsidiary of

Re: Multiple addreses in tns

2003-07-10 Thread Thomas Day
Is he trying to do failover or load balancing? Bob Metelsky

RE: High availability and upgrades

2003-07-10 Thread Matthew Zito
Ugh - this is a tricky idea for a couple of reasons. What happens when one database goes down? When its brought back up its no longer in sync with the original, and has to be brought up to speed somehow (I see that you mention that, but that in and of itself is a project). Besides that, what

RE: Multiple addreses in tns

2003-07-10 Thread Bob Metelsky
I don't know, thats what Im trying to figgure out. Non the less the connection works, It looked weird to me (on the first impression) I suppose I could ask, I was just wondering if this was an easily identifiable entry Thanks bob Is he trying to do failover or load balancing? --

RE: RAC time clocks (sysdate)

2003-07-10 Thread Matthew Zito
Oh, that could definitely be true. My impression on that point had always been that the really bad form was to have all 100+ hosts on your network hit the public stratum-1 servers, hence the delgation to local stratum-2s. But it is definitely better form to never touch the stratum-1s. So, if

RE: Restricting access via sqlplus

2003-07-10 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
The problem is that if the decryption and set role were done inside a database package, then that means that the Oracle database user needs execute privilege on the package, and so the user could call the package from inside SQL*Plus on the client. At my old company they were talking about

RE: any script to parse alert log ?!

2003-07-10 Thread Niall Litchfield
Here is a good one: create or replace directory bdump as '/oracle/admin/o9i/bdump' / grant read on directory bdump to public / create table alert_log_ext ( line varchar2(2000) ) organization external ( type oracle_loader default directory bdump access parameters ( records

Re: any script to parse alert log ?!

2003-07-10 Thread Tanel Poder
And load 'em to CLOBs as well and use InterMedia Text to index them ;) Tanel. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 12:59 AM Here is a good one: create or replace directory bdump as '/oracle/admin/o9i/bdump'

Re: High availability and upgrades

2003-07-10 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi! In the case of 1), not only have you not given yourself high availability, you've actually reduced the MTBF for your system, since you'll go down twice and often. In the second case, you've got data consistency problems - log mining is fine and dandy, but how do you deal with a

RE: High availability and upgrades

2003-07-10 Thread Paul Baumgartel
Matt, can you elaborate a bit? Configure your two servers in a cluster how: RAC, FailSafe (these are Windoze servers, unfortunately)? Third mirror implies the two nodes share a disk cluster in which all active drives consist of three mirrored copies; when the third mirror is split off, the

RE: any script to parse alert log ?!

2003-07-10 Thread Gogala, Mladen
If you have more databases, there are synonyms, views and db-links. That is classic DBA patchwork. The funniest siutations arise when you have a circle of synonyms and db-links pointing to each other, just like perpetuum mobile. What is impossible in thermodynamics, is possible in oracle. It

Re: Oracle on a mainframe (MVS)

2003-07-10 Thread Brian_P_MacLean
COBOL, SQL*Net, DB_Link...it's all there. You might want to follow these links to the dark side http://www.mvsoraclesig.org/ http://www.oramain.com/welcome.htm (this guy runs the users group)

RE: High availability and upgrades

2003-07-10 Thread Matthew Zito
Cluster - like Microsoft or Veritas - strictly active/passive, though you could do RAC if you wanted. That's for high availability - one box goes down, the other one either stays up or kicks into action. Third Mirror - absolutely correct. It could be a whole separate storage array or just a

RE: RAC system Calls

2003-07-10 Thread Ravi Kulkarni
Hey Matt, Thanks for the useful info. into a smaller number of ethernet frames, reducing both latency and overhead. Ideally, each block will fit into one ethernet frame, We are using 16K blocksize, so we cannot avoid datagram splits with 9k frames - but certainly, sounds better than with

RE: RAC system Calls

2003-07-10 Thread Ravi Kulkarni
Raj, Yes. Timed_statistics=true. But I see the 'times' even in single instance(non-rac)database but relatively called negligible number of times. -Ravi. --- Jamadagni, Rajendra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You seem to have timed_statistics=TRUE right ?? in RAC you will ALWAYS see GCS pings ...

RE: RAC system Calls

2003-07-10 Thread Matthew Zito
Nah - no reason not to use it, especially given how long they've been around. Basically you should enable jumbo frames everywhere you can - whenever your box talks to a host that doesn't support them, it just won't use them, and when it can it'll get the performance advantage (side note: your

Copying database from vxfs to ufs

2003-07-10 Thread Anubha Jalsingh
Hi, I have a database (200GB+ 8.1.7.4 version) on Vxfs file systems on a Sun server ( Solaris 8), which I need to migrate to Ufs file systems mounted on same server. To cut the migration time, can I copy the database files from vxfs to ufs ie across the different filesystems type. Has anyone

Re: Copying database from vxfs to ufs

2003-07-10 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi! Yep, there should be no problems. It is possible to copy files to and from raw devices (with one issue of raw device header block(s)). And if you want to cut migration time, then make a full online backup to your ufs file system, then shutdown your production and do recovery of ufs database.

RE: Restricting access via sqlplus

2003-07-10 Thread Mark Brooks
We use a similar process for several of our in-house applications. The users get an Oracle id that only has create session. The application prompts for the users username and password and attempts to login to the database. If the login succeeds the application closes the connection and then logs

Thanx -- Re: any script to parse alert log ?!

2003-07-10 Thread Prem Khanna J
Thanx Mladen. i have got some scripts now. i have to try one by one and find out which suits my need. thanx u all. Jp. 10-07-2003 09:09:24, Mladen Gogala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is a good one: create or replace directory bdump as '/oracle/admin/o9i/bdump' / grant read on directory bdump

Re: trigger and LogMiner

2003-07-10 Thread Chip
Idea for testing: looking for redo associated with select statement(s) that are cleaning out row level locks in block(s) from previously committed DML transaction(s). Have Fun :) Tanel Poder wrote: Hi! Maybe they were thinking that if you audit select statements, you can analyze inserts on AUD$

Unique constraint violation question.

2003-07-10 Thread chuan . zhang
Hi, All, When an unique constraint is violated, is there any way to know which record cause this problem? TIA, Chuan Important: This transmission is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain confidential or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient,

Re: Unique constraint violation question.

2003-07-10 Thread Mladen Gogala
There is a way, but you have to master the Tao first. When you do, you will not ask questions like that. Short of that, you could try selecting the record(s) from the table which have the same unique key as the record you're trying to insert. Truncate table will also rid you of the problems with

how to calculate total foreground time

2003-07-10 Thread A.Bahar
Title: Message is following correct , 'total foreground time' = 'cpu used by this session' + 'total of Foreground Wait times' or is 'cpu used by this session' includes also 'total of Foreground Wait times'