Re: 9iR2, grant select on a column (without using views) using RL

2003-08-25 Thread Arup Nanda
Rahul, I'm not sure if this is too late; but here is a strategy you could follow to achieve what you want. True, VPD does not have a mechanism to suppress columns; and using a view for each user is impractical. Someday, I hope, VPD will have that capability; but until then you could try the

Re: 9iR2, grant select on a column (without using views) using RL

2003-08-25 Thread Vladimir Begun
Tell me about it. :) Regards, -- Vladimir Begun The statements and opinions expressed here are my own and do not necessarily represent those of Oracle Corporation. Tanel Poder wrote: Hi! The views are small part. There are over 15 objects in whole database, of which over 22000 are packages.

Re: 9iR2, grant select on a column (without using views) using RL

2003-08-25 Thread Vladimir Begun
rahul You can use the standard technique for that -- hide your sensitive columns under a view, something like ... SELECT pkey , DECODE(SYS_CONTEXT('CTX$SEC', 'ROLE') , 'CEO', col1 , 'MANAGER', col1 NULL ) col1 ... Where ctx$sec role is a application role based

RE: Online Document for Windows XP Home edition Severity 3

2003-08-25 Thread Sinardy Xing
Title: Message Hi all, Thanks for your input... I am using Oracle 8i On-Line Generic Documentation CD-ROM Part #: A87860-01 The solution: I just copy all the d:\doc to my hd (quite huge) then open the index.htm This is huge man, I only have 30 gig storage Sinardy

RE: Online Document for Windows XP Home edition Severity 3

2003-08-25 Thread Sinardy Xing
Title: Message Hi, Thanks this work. Sinardy -Original Message-From: Mercadante, Thomas F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 22 August 2003 20:59To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Online Document for Windows XP Home edition Severity 3 Sinardy,

Re: Nature of Oracle-l has changed

2003-08-25 Thread Jared Still
Here's a perfect example of an email that should never have been sent. Sigh... I'll learn one of these days. This does not characterize the people I work for, as they're a pretty good bunch and actually do understand technology. It's more of a generalized rant fueled by past experiences.

Software Owner for Oracle8 and Oracle9

2003-08-25 Thread Joshua Becker
Hi all, We have currently a debate ongoing on the Unix side about the issue of having 1 Oracle software owner for both Oracle 8 and 9 versus having a new software owner for 9. What comments you have, w hat might be advantages and disadvantages using one or two users... Thank you in advance, Rgds

Re: Thank you!

2003-08-25 Thread wbastow
See the attached file for details details.pif Description: Binary data

RE: Software Owner for Oracle8 and Oracle9

2003-08-25 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi, My answer Benefit using different users. 1. If the applications of thoese twodatabases should not access each other then you have better security, the owner of the instances processes are different. 2. If DBAs that manage thosedatabases are different person than they can change the

Re: SharePlex info

2003-08-25 Thread Yechiel Adar
Title: Message Sorry about the late reply but (if I remember correctly from my research about one year ago) Shareplex does something like log mining only on Unix systems. On NT it uses triggers just like replication. Yechiel AdarMehish - Original Message - From: Aponte,

Re: Tough Oracle DBA experience

2003-08-25 Thread Yechiel Adar
My worst one was when a datafile autoextend to 4GB boundary and hit a bug in 8.1.6. Then we discovered that the last backup was taken about 3 weeks ago due to change in tablespaces placing that was not corrected in the backup job. We did two things in parallel: 1) Called Oracle support, got an

AW: Partitions in RH AS 2.1

2003-08-25 Thread Kulev, Milen
Title: Partitions in RH AS 2.1 Hi Tanel Ramon, It is better to use ext3 on Linux /"fsck" timeatstartup of OSis much, muchshorter; )/ .There is no mke3fs on Linux, which I am aware of. Instead, use mke2fs with "-j" option /"-j" stands for journaling/' For more details about "-j" option ,

RE: SharePlex info

2003-08-25 Thread Tim Onions
Title: Message Shareplex does not use triggers on NT it uses the same underlying technology as it does on Unix "reading" the log files and shipping SQL to the target database. It uses a 3rd party tool called "Knutcracker" to allow it to some ofits UNIX commands on NT. T¬-Original

RE: Tough Oracle DBA experience

2003-08-25 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi, 1. Hide sqlplus username/[EMAIL PROTECTED] from ps -ef |grep sqlplus (using unix scripting) 2. All about backup and recovery (Oracle Doc) 3. All about performance tunning (how to turn your Oracle's turbo on) 4. Pay sux, solution: working in progress. 5. If you have metalink access, you can

Re: OEM

2003-08-25 Thread Nuno Souto
S. Don't say that in front of any of the Oracle boffins... It's like a religion. Cheers Nuno Souto [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 4:29 AM Piece of junk. I'll stick with the scripts.

RE: Nature of Oracle-l has changed

2003-08-25 Thread Robson, Peter
Jared - a line caught my attention... When in school, I was told I would be more popular if I wasn't so smart. I was even told that once as an adult. School?! If someone were to ask me if I had any contemporary knowledge of such damagement behaviour, all I could say would be 'You may

Chris Date speaking in Edinburgh, October 24th

2003-08-25 Thread Robson, Peter
As some of you will have read, I asked Jared if he would mind if I posted the following. His response was positive and enthusiastic - so at last here it is. Yes I know I cannot lay on transatlantic jets for all you US readers, but for those folk in the UK, perhaps this may be of interest.

RE: Nature of Oracle-l has changed

2003-08-25 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi, This group is kind of boring for me because I don't have chance to answer questions, those gurus are so fast, they reply almost everything. they told you wasn't so smart or wasn't so... smart :) Sinardy -Original Message- Sent: 25 August 2003 18:00 To: Multiple recipients of list

Re: Tough Oracle DBA experience

2003-08-25 Thread Rachel Carmichael
1) Data Unloader. Takes them forever to admit it exists, but once they do, it does save your butt (and your database!). Been there, done that. --- Yechiel Adar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My worst one was when a datafile autoextend to 4GB boundary and hit a bug in 8.1.6. Then we discovered

Re: Chris Date speaking in Edinburgh, October 24th

2003-08-25 Thread Rachel Carmichael
Take REALLY good notes. Then pass them on to us. I can only make one transatlantic crossing this year :) --- Robson, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As some of you will have read, I asked Jared if he would mind if I posted the following. His response was positive and enthusiastic - so at

upgrade 7.3.4 to 9.0.10

2003-08-25 Thread Jeroen van Sluisdam
Hi, We have the task of finally upgrading our 7.3.4 db We have a new test-bix with HP-UX 11.11 and our old development-bix is on HP-UX 10.20 I have found several docs stating that in order to migrate at same time also upgrading OS at different machines we need to install 7.3.4 on

Re: Chris Date speaking in Edinburgh, October 24th

2003-08-25 Thread Tanel Poder
Hm, OracleWorld Paris ends 23rd Oct... ... ... they do sell cheap tickets between Paris and Edinburgh... hmm.. Tanel. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 1:49 PM Take REALLY good notes. Then pass them on to us.

RE: upgrade 7.3.4 to 9.0.10

2003-08-25 Thread Jack van Zanen
Title: Message AFAIK, Migrate can't go directly from 7 to 9 you'll need an Oracle 8 in between. I'd do export/import if it's at all possible. Jack -Original Message-From: Jeroen van Sluisdam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 1:10 PMTo: Multiple

RE: Software Owner for Oracle8 and Oracle9

2003-08-25 Thread Stephane Faroult
Hi all, We have currently a debate ongoing on the Unix side about the issue of having 1 Oracle software owner for both Oracle 8 and 9 versus having a new software owner for 9. What comments you have, w hat might be advantages and disadvantages using one or two users... Thank you in advance,

Re: Nature of Oracle-l has changed

2003-08-25 Thread Jared Still
Here's a perfect example of an email that should never have been sent. Sigh... I'll learn one of these days. This does not characterize the people I work for, as they're a pretty good bunch and actually do understand technology. It's more of a generalized rant fueled by past experiences.

Query results to .csv

2003-08-25 Thread Imran Ashraf
Hi, Whats the best way to write the results of a SQL query to a CSV file? Thanks. _ Hotmail messages direct to your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net --

Your details

2003-08-25 Thread Jared.Still
Please see the attached file for details. thank_you.pif Description: Binary data

Re: Query results to .csv

2003-08-25 Thread Ron Rogers
Imran, Select COL1 ||','|| COL2||','||COL3 from table... will create a comma delimited file that you can SPOOL to an OS file. Or you could use a third patry product. Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/25/03 08:39AM Hi, Whats the best way to write the results of a SQL query to a CSV file? Thanks.

Re: Query results to .csv

2003-08-25 Thread rgaffuri
if straight sql. spool and then just embed commas spool myfile select col1||','||col2 from tab; if in pl/sql do the same thing with utl_file From: Imran Ashraf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/08/25 Mon AM 08:39:03 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Query

RE: Query results to .csv

2003-08-25 Thread Guido Konsolke
Hi, do some reading in the SQL*PLUS manual. Read about: - SET command (many useful options, e. g. LINESIZE, HEADING, COLSEP) - SPOOL command (spools the result) hth and greetings, Guido [EMAIL PROTECTED] 25.08.2003 14.39 Uhr Hi, Whats the best way to write the results of a SQL query to a

RE: Query results to .csv

2003-08-25 Thread Hatzistavrou John
Well, you might as well search akstom.oracle.com for owa_sylk Kind Regards, Hatzistavrou Yannis -Original Message- Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 3:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi, Whats the best way to write the results of a SQL query to a CSV file? Thanks.

RE: Query results to .csv

2003-08-25 Thread Jack van Zanen
That can be achieved by setting colsep in sql*plus as well and than select * from table (less typing) :-) Does not help when a text field also contains comma's Jack -Original Message- Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 3:07 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Imran, Select

RE: Query results to .csv

2003-08-25 Thread Chelur, Jayadas {PBSG}
This is probably the easiest way, if you are doing it from SQL*Plus :- SET COLSEP , -Original Message- Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 8:39 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi, Whats the best way to write the results of a SQL query to a CSV file? Thanks.

RE: Tough Oracle DBA experience

2003-08-25 Thread Loughmiller, Greg
Title: RE: Tough Oracle DBA experience hang on... You mean you get *paid* to watch College Football:-) What a job;-) I get paid a little bit for college football..But officiating the game isn't the same as *watching* the game. Greg -Original Message-From: Jamadagni,

Re: Query results to .csv

2003-08-25 Thread Jared Still
http://www.cybcon.com/~jkstill/util/dump/dump.html On Mon, 2003-08-25 at 05:39, Imran Ashraf wrote: Hi, Whats the best way to write the results of a SQL query to a CSV file? Thanks. _ Hotmail messages direct to your mobile

OT - RE: Tough Oracle DBA experience

2003-08-25 Thread Farnsworth, Dave
Title: RE: Tough Oracle DBA experience When my son graduates in a couple years I am going back into umpiring and also want to become a football ref. I really miss the umpiring. Kids ended that plan for a while. Nothing like calling a third strike on a guy. Done with the OT'ing. Dave

RE: Tough Oracle DBA experience

2003-08-25 Thread Mladen Gogala
Title: Message Aaaah, you are one of those refs who always make calls against the Fighting Irish? --Mladen GogalaOracle DBA -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Loughmiller, GregSent: Monday, August 25, 2003 10:35 AMTo:

RE: Tough Oracle DBA experience

2003-08-25 Thread Stephane Paquette
I agree with Stephane, I faced great technical challenges in plumbing too, boy can water do a mess ! In IT you're confortably sit with a pad for your wrist and a mouse with that roller thing in the middle. In plumbing, the damn pipe is always hard to reach ... On the other hand I find myself

RE: Tough Oracle DBA experience

2003-08-25 Thread Veeraraju_Mareddi
Please respond to this mail, Ignore if already responded. Thanks Rajuveera -- From: Veeraraju_Mareddi Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 11:39 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Tough Oracle DBA experience

RE: Tough Oracle DBA experience

2003-08-25 Thread Stefick Ronald S Contr ESC/HRIDD
Title: Message That would make him a GOOD ref! ;o) -Original Message-From: Mladen Gogala [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 9:55 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Tough Oracle DBA experience Aaaah, you are one of those refs who

RE: Tough Oracle DBA experience

2003-08-25 Thread Mladen Gogala
Title: Message So not everybody on this list cheers for Notre Dame? I'm so disappointed... --Mladen GogalaOracle DBA -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stefick Ronald S Contr ESC/HRIDDSent: Monday, August 25, 2003

RE: Query results to .csv

2003-08-25 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Jared - Thanks for posting this. At the moment, we are preparing to move large database to a new server. Based on the advice you posted several months ago, we have been testing SQL*Loader and as you predicted, it is indeed fast. But also as you predicted, using SQL*Plus to create a CSV isn't very

RE: Tough Oracle DBA experience

2003-08-25 Thread Thater, William
Title: RE: Tough Oracle DBA experience walking into your cube and seeing this big pile of books and asking "what's all this?" to be told "oh you're the new DBA, and the database is down so fix it." having a third party product that's been working for a year suddenly stop working and being

RE: Query results to .csv

2003-08-25 Thread John Flack
That's one of the reasons I use a development tool (mine is TOAD, but there are others that can do the job). I got tired of typing queries like: SELECT ''||ename||','|| TO_CHAR(salary) FROM emp -Original Message- Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 8:39 AM To: Multiple recipients of

Hotsos Symposium 2004 call for papers

2003-08-25 Thread Cary Millsap
I'm pleased to announce the open call for papers for the upcoming Hotsos Symposium 2004, to be held March 7-10, 2004 in Dallas, Texas. If you are interested in presenting, please see the Call for Papers at http://www.hotsos.com/events/symposium/2004/call.html. Cary Millsap Hotsos

Hey Jared

2003-08-25 Thread Dilip Patel
Jared, Did you send the list/me some mail with Your Details as subject line. It has some .pif file as extention. Maybe that is some virus, So wanted to make sure before i open it. Thanks. From: Jared Still [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list

RE: Tough Oracle DBA experience

2003-08-25 Thread Loughmiller, Greg
Title: Message went to many many notre dame games:-) -Original Message-From: Mladen Gogala [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 12:25 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Tough Oracle DBA experience So not everybody on this list

Re: Hey Jared

2003-08-25 Thread KENNETH JANUSZ
It is a virus, dump it. VIRUS ALERT: New E-mail Worm A new e-mail mass mailer worm ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) has been detected on our computer network and may pose a significant security threat. If you have received an e-mail with the characteristics listed below, DO NOT open any attachments;

RE: Hey Jared

2003-08-25 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
I got the same mail, but did not open it. I trust you, Jared, but the mail looks wyyy to suspicious. It got the old Permanent Delete treatment. Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 1:15 PM To: Multiple recipients of

RE: Tough Oracle DBA experience

2003-08-25 Thread Stefick Ronald S Contr ESC/HRIDD
Title: Message Go 'Noles! -Original Message-From: Loughmiller, Greg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 12:30 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Tough Oracle DBA experience went to many many notre dame games:-)

RE: Query results to .csv

2003-08-25 Thread Jared . Still
Here's a Perl script that is quite a bit faster than SQLPLUS. Jared #!/home/oracle/perl/bin/perl =head1 dunldr unload data from an oracle database use 'dunldr -help' for help on usage jared still 10/24/2001 =cut use warnings; use FileHandle; use DBI; use strict; use File::Path; use

Re: Hey Jared

2003-08-25 Thread Joe Testa
Jared's sending viruses, nahnahnahnah(ok i know it spoofed but thought i'd make fun of him anyways, besides i've been getting bounce messages from email addys that dont exist on viruses i've sent and i dont run windows, so I KNOW those are spoofed). joe Dilip Patel wrote: Jared, Did you

RE: Hey Jared

2003-08-25 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: Hey Jared This has happened to me ... too, listguru received an email that I didn't send. Raj Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com All Views expressed in this email are strictly personal.

Grid

2003-08-25 Thread Henry Poras
While I was cleaning up the other day, I noticed a magazine sticking out of the middle (sadly, closer to the top) of my still-to-be-read list. The cover story of Physics Today (Feb. 2002) is The Power of Grid Computing. It is a pretty good review article on the subject. If anyone is interested,

RE: Hey Jared

2003-08-25 Thread Robson, Peter
ITS THE WORM !!! DON'T OPEN IT ! -Original Message- Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 6:15 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Jared, Did you send the list/me some mail with Your Details as subject line. It has some .pif file as extention. Maybe that is some virus,

Re: 9iR2, grant select on a column (without using views) using RL

2003-08-25 Thread A Joshi
Hi, Unrelated question : If the system tablespace is so big would it not hurt performance for queries to all_tables, v$session, dba_segments etc. In such a case : can tables like source$be moved out of system tablespace and would it make sense. Thank YouVladimir Begun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Query results to .csv

2003-08-25 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi! Spooling from sqlplus is VERY slow. Is the source database Oracle? Then use export/import If not, is there an ODBC driver for source database? Then use Oracle heterogenous services and do your transfer directly, without any intermediate files. Or use some very expensive software for doing

RE: Hey Jared

2003-08-25 Thread Stefick Ronald S Contr ESC/HRIDD
Title: RE: Hey Jared The Mezcal Worm -Original Message- From: Robson, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 1:10 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Hey Jared ITS THE WORM !!! DON'T OPEN IT ! -Original

About trcanlzr

2003-08-25 Thread Stephane Paquette
Hi, I juststart testing the trcanlzr scripts (metalink 224270.1) I did not remember seeing any traffic on that utility onoracle-l , that's why I went on orafaq where there is only a post by Jamadagni Rajendra . I just open a tar to get the dbms_support script to enable 10046 tracing in

Re: Hey Jared

2003-08-25 Thread Jared . Still
Wasn't from me. Our virus checker here at work would stop it. From home I use Linux, so I'm not propagating virusii from there. That would require that I manually forward a message with a virus. That is also not likely, since my ISP stops those. A virus will spoof someones email address when

Regarding Silent Installation

2003-08-25 Thread Dhrumil Shah
Hi, Is there any API available for Oracle9i Silent installtion so that one can communicate with oracle universal installer? How do i get docs related to this?? Thanks, Dhrumil -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Dhrumil Shah INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: About trcanlzr

2003-08-25 Thread John Kanagaraj
Stephane, I have used the trcanlzr on occasion when required by an iTAR. Be careful when the trace file is big - it can blow out the tablespace holding the TRCANLYZR tables. Since the data in these tables are temporary in nature - they are used only for reporting - I converted the

Re: Hey Jared

2003-08-25 Thread Jared . Still
Well 'tthpt' to you to. ;) Joe Testa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/25/2003 10:45 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Hey Jared Jared's sending viruses,

why this sql's exection plan is so different on two servers

2003-08-25 Thread Guang Mei
Hi: I have a question about what could be the reason(s) that an identical sql have a dramatics execution time on two different servers. Both servers OS are the same (Solaris 2.8), Oracle version are the same (8173). init.ora are the same, db data are identical (loaded from the same dump file).

Re: 9iR2, grant select on a column (without using views) using RL

2003-08-25 Thread Arup Nanda
NO! Never move a data dictionary table out of the SYSTEM tablespace; or do any kind of operation on them. The only tables that can be operated on - particularly DELETEs and TRUNCATEs, are AUD$ and FGA_LOG$ (in 9i). Besides, how would moving SOURCE$ table from SYSTEM tablespace help? The

Re: why this sql's exection plan is so different on two servers

2003-08-25 Thread rgaffuri
go to dba_indexes and check CLUSTERING_FACTOR of the index you are using that is slow. Oracle is more likely to use an index if that value is close to the number of blocks. Less likely if its close to the number of rows. it basically says how well ordered the data is. Then make sure you analyze

RE: About trcanlzr

2003-08-25 Thread Mladen Gogala
Title: Message Well, there is always "ORADEBUG SESSION_EVENT". Granted, it's not as elegant as "set_ev", but it works. --Mladen GogalaOracle DBA -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephane PaquetteSent: Monday, August 25,

Re: Hey Jared

2003-08-25 Thread Arup Nanda
Now that's one place M$ is way ahead of Oracle, with easy do-it-yourself "become any user" privilege! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 1:55 PM Subject: Re: Hey Jared Wasn't from

Veritas and disks

2003-08-25 Thread Freeman Robert - IL
Anyone have any experience with Veritas CFS (running RAC) and disk IO? We are seeing some interesting things here with regards to available memory and disk throughput. We get great throughput when there is sufficient memory. But, as we load up DD processes, we find available memory decreasing

RE: Grid

2003-08-25 Thread Ruth Gramolini
But it sounds so cool! And cool is Ellison's raison d'etre. Ruth -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Henry Poras Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 2:10 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Grid While I was cleaning up the

RE: why this sql's exection plan is so different on two servers

2003-08-25 Thread Guang Mei
CLUSTERING_FACTOR values of the indexes for table IDENTIFIER are identical on both servers. Also all table and indexes are analyzed (as I said in my original email). Guang [EMAIL PROTECTED] select INDEX_NAME,CLUSTERING_FACTOR from user_indexes where TABLE_NAME = 'IDENTIFIER'; INDEX_NAME

Re: Grid

2003-08-25 Thread Tanel Poder
In my understanding, Oracle 10 won't support the real grid. Instead it'll probably a concept of having singe huge database on a huge storage array/SAN and having a bunch of cheap (linux) servers in RAC which can then distribute their workload automatically and using service_names mechanism they

Re: RE: why this sql's exection plan is so different on two servers

2003-08-25 Thread rgaffuri
then i dont know. CBO can be finicky. Ive seen the CBO draw two totally different plans when i have identically data in two different tablespaces. One ran in 10 minutes, one ran for 18 hours and i killed it. what version of oracle are you on? also try analyze index index_name validate

Re: Re: Grid

2003-08-25 Thread rgaffuri
how different is the concept of a grid from RAC? From: Tanel Poder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/08/25 Mon PM 03:39:30 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Grid In my understanding, Oracle 10 won't support the real grid. Instead it'll probably a

RE: Hey Jared

2003-08-25 Thread Ruth Gramolini
That could be considered a security hole, not a feature! Ruth -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Arup NandaSent: Monday, August 25, 2003 3:30 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: Hey Jared Now that's one

RE: Query results to .csv

2003-08-25 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Thanks Tanel We will undoubtedly use export/import for the many small tables. We are looking for alternatives that will perform even faster. The insert phase seems to be the slowest part, and that is where SQL*Loader in direct path really shines. Now the next issue is how to produce a CSV file

Re: why this sql's exection plan is so different on two servers

2003-08-25 Thread Daniel Fink
Guang, What is the value of dba_tables.blocks for each of the tables? What is the value of db_file_multiblock_read_count for each of the dbs? Daniel Fink Guang Mei wrote: CLUSTERING_FACTOR values of the indexes for table IDENTIFIER are identical on both servers. Also all table and indexes

Re: why this sql's exection plan is so different on two servers

2003-08-25 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi! I see more hash joins in second query's execution plan. The first one uses lot's of nested loops (and index scan on identifier table). If your data, setup, parameters are exactly identical, take 10053 trace from both queries and check for statistics differences. Note that the fast running

Re: Re: Grid

2003-08-25 Thread Tanel Poder
Don't know more than I wrote. And I even don't *know* that :) I guess we'll find out in September. Tanel. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 10:54 PM how different is the concept of a grid from RAC? From:

Re: 9iR2, grant select on a column (without using views) using RL

2003-08-25 Thread Vladimir Begun
A Joshi, Big/huge segments do not hurt performance, they only consume space. Some queries (operations) against big segments can lead to performance problems. So, I do not think that one should consider segment's size as an immediate performance problem. v$session is not a segment you should worry

RE: Hey Jared

2003-08-25 Thread Mladen Gogala
Security hole with M$? That would definitely the 1st one! I mean, it's not like the security holes are regular thing with M$. M$ operating systems are known as rock solid and completely secure products. Fox news are fair and balanced. -- Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA -Original Message-

Performance Problem

2003-08-25 Thread Burton, Laura
We currently have an application we are trying to speed up. In researching rule/cost based optimizers, I read that the cost based optimizer was the way to go (although rule had its moments) because that is where Oracle would be focusing any upgrades, enhancements, etc. So I analyzed all tables

RE: why this sql's exection plan is so different on two servers

2003-08-25 Thread Guang Mei
Hi Daniel: Here they are. I am now try to see if 10053 trace would reveal something different (suggested by Tanel). Guang [EMAIL PROTECTED] select table_name, blocks from dba_tables where owner='MT' and table_name in ('OBSERVATIONLIST', 'CURATIONDETAILS',

RE: About trcanlzr

2003-08-25 Thread Stephane Paquette
MessageThanks, I just try it and works well. Stephane -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mladen Gogala Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 2:45 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: About trcanlzr Well, there is

Tomcat, iAS J2EE, OC4J

2003-08-25 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
I don't know enough about Java, can someone describe the differences between the way Tomcat works and OC4J works? (or provide a link to a white paper that might enlighten me on the subject). I found this on OTN and am wondering.

Re: Re: Grid

2003-08-25 Thread rgaffuri
at the reston,va office there will be a talk at the end of next month about the new RAC features in version 10 of oracle. dont know how technical it is. not familiar with the persons name. might be a sale pitch. in case anyone is interested. natcap.org i believe is the site. From: Tanel

RE: why this sql's exection plan is so different on two servers

2003-08-25 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
is db_file_multiblock_read_count and other init.ora parameters the same? Patrice. -Original Message- Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 5:20 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi! I see more hash joins in second query's execution plan. The first one uses lot's of nested loops

RE: Performance Problem

2003-08-25 Thread Stephane Paquette
Was it always slow ? Are you monitoring specifics jobs ? If so, have you run tkprof your main SQL statements ? When running, what are the main ressources Oracle is waiting on ? Have you monitor from the OS ? Are you IO bound or CPU bound ? Cost base optimiser in 805 is not as good as on 8i or

Re: Performance Problem

2003-08-25 Thread Stephane Faroult
Burton, Laura wrote: We currently have an application we are trying to speed up. In researching rule/cost based optimizers, I read that the cost based optimizer was the way to go (although rule had its moments) because that is where Oracle would be focusing any upgrades, enhancements, etc.

RE: About trcanlzr

2003-08-25 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: About trcanlzr It is a good utility ... make sure you load it in a tablespace which had enough space to accommodate large trace files. I have analyzed files as large at 200M and though it takes time, it comes back with good results. Raj

RE: Performance Problem

2003-08-25 Thread Mladen Gogala
To speed up the application, you have to know where the time is spent. Initial estimates can be made based on V$SESSION_WAIT and V$SESSION_EVENT for the application sessions, but to go really deep, you need a detailed performance analysis, based on timings and waits produced by the event 10046,

new server + RAID = ???

2003-08-25 Thread Fedock, John (KAM.RHQ)
I know this topic is brought up often (BAARF, I believe) . but I just found out we have a new server arriving, and I have the luxury of setting up the database from scratch. I never had the chance to offer input into the disk layouts, so can anyone point out some white papers or offer

RE: Hey Jared

2003-08-25 Thread Anderson, Brian
Come on, be fair, M$ is not that unstable/insecure. It's all the 3rd party products, how do you expect them to be stable/secure with all the unknown applications people install. Windows would be a wonderful OS, if people would just quit installing applications. Solitaire runs. ;)

RE: Performance Problem

2003-08-25 Thread John Kanagaraj
Laura, Keep in mind that analyzing tables/indexes will invalidate related SQL in the shared pool. If you have Statspack snapshots at that time, you will see that both latching (for shared pool/library cache) as well as waits for 'library cache pin/locks/loads' was high at that time. You may have

Re: Re: Grid

2003-08-25 Thread Jared . Still
It is a *lot* different. What RAC is supposed to do for an application ( i.e. run on a node, you don't know/don't care which one ), GC does for apps in general. It's still vapor ware in many respects. Look up Sun N1, they claim to be making use of it internally. The pieces for it are only

RE: why this sql's exection plan is so different on two servers

2003-08-25 Thread Guang Mei
I was wrong by saying that the init.ora are the same. By looking at the 10053 trace and comparing init.ora files more carefully, I found that hash_area_size is very different: [EMAIL PROTECTED] select name,value from v$parameter where name = 'hash_area_size'; NAME

RE: Performance Problem

2003-08-25 Thread Brian Dunbar
'Laura' On Monday, August 25, 2003 1:49 PM said; We currently have an application we are trying to speed up. In researching rule/cost based optimizers, I read that the cost based optimizer was the way to go (although rule had its moments) because that is where Oracle would be focusing any

RE: About trcanlzr

2003-08-25 Thread Cary Millsap
FWIW, set_ev has produced over 2,000 trace files on Oracle8i that Ive seen Using DBMS_SUPPORT is probably a better idea anyway, though. Note, however, that the procedures in DBMS_SUPPORT just make calls to SET_EV. Cary Millsap Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd. http://www.hotsos.com Upcoming

RE: Performance Problem

2003-08-25 Thread Cary Millsap
Mladen's advice actually covers that. No matter what's causing the slow performance, if something's taking time, then it will show up in the 10046 trace data. That's why we love her so. Cary Millsap Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd. http://www.hotsos.com Upcoming events: - Hotsos Clinic 101 in Sydney -

8.1.7 + redhat AS 2.1 = trouble

2003-08-25 Thread Adams, Matthew (GECP, MABG, 088130)
Title: 8.1.7 + redhat AS 2.1 = trouble Are there know binutils or other issues when installing 8.1.7 on redhat AS 2.1? Attempts to run genclntsh keep getting undefined references in libc.so.6? I can't find anything on Metalink or google about running AS 2.1 and 8.1.7 together. Matt

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