unable to achieve that performance, it
wasn't allowed to the production OLTP system. That way, the performance
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See the "Ratio Modeling" paper at Orapub.com
It is a quick and dirty method for capacity planni
See the "Ratio Modeling" paper at Orapub.com
It is a quick and dirty method for capacity planning.
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> bet that any formula for doing it will include (x%)
> for 'overhead', which
> actu
arrays, you'll be able to buy some
> > disks now then some later, and so on, but this is the general gist.
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Counting bytes is far, far, FAR less
important than counting I/O-
Thanks for the time answering my question guys... :-)
Tanel, I've just inherited the database that I'm handling right now and I was not part of the "real" capacity planning. I really lack experience on this part of the job and I would appreciate your thoughts on any good doc
d be a fairly
simple spreadsheet.
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|planning? Sharing your experience or approach will also give me so much
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Hi!
I don't remember any documents other than Oracle
documentation by heart, but would like to make one point here:
Disk capacity planning is not only predicting how
many Mega/Giga/Terabytes you'll need in certain point of time, planning also
includes requires IOPS predictio
Hi everyone!
Can anybody point me to any good documentation regarding disk capacity planning? Sharing your experience or approach will also give me so much help. I'd like to know other people's approach on forecasting the growth of their databases particularly on determining the (growt
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> Thanks a lot for the reply, Cary. Yes, your
> explanation makes all the sense in the world even
> though it is preci
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> Thanks a lot for the reply, Cary. Yes, your
> explanation makes all the sense in the world even
> though it is precisely the weighted
> decision makers in terms of the horsepower required
> to
> run this "system" on?
> After all, yes individual business transactions have
> their own SLA requirements (e.g. worst tolerated
> response time), but they all use the same resources,
> don't they? So eve
ks a lot for the reply, Cary. Yes, your
> explanation makes all the sense in the world even
> though it is precisely the weighted average approach
> that I've seen on some capacity planning spreadsheets.
>
> Two additional questions if I may, Cary.
> Would it be correct to say
approach
that I've seen on some capacity planning spreadsheets.
Two additional questions if I may, Cary.
Would it be correct to say that when I throw
additional users on a system it is only queueing
component of a response time that climbs up, while
service time stays the same?
[Cary Millsap] So
Thanks a lot for the reply, Cary. Yes, your
explanation makes all the sense in the world even
though it is precisely the weighted average approach
that I've seen on some capacity planning spreadsheets.
Two additional questions if I may, Cary.
Would it be correct to say that when I
Boris,
If you mean that some people on your system execute Bus.Tx1, some others
execute Bus.Tx2, and some others (maybe with some overlap) execute
Bus.Tx3, then my answer to your question is:
No, I would strongly encourage you *not* to do this!
It was exercises like this that first led m
Let's say I have 3 business transactions (consisting
of numerous Oracle transactions each) and I know total
service time for each (from c readings off sql traces
for the length of the bus.tx). Doing queuing theory
exercise I can also get CDF(r max) for each. Let's say
Bus.Tx1 - CPU time=5s CDF(r
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Let's just say it's the same as Jared's...Yeah, that's it! The
very same! And my wife, Morgan Fairchild, whom I've seen naked.
When you don'
Come on Brad, this is the guy's wife you're talking about !!
=)
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Title: RE: Capacity Planning Methods?
Rich,
I'd love to see the procedure and table that you use. Thanks for offering.
Best regards,
David B. Wagoner
Database Administrator
Arsenal Digital Solutions
Title: Capacity Planning Methods?
Just
lurking as usual, but Craig Schallahammer (sp) has a fairly extensive
technical
seminar on methods DBAs can use for capacity
planning.
Here
is the link to his web-site.
http://www.orapub.com/cgi/genesis.cgi
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Took it a few years ago. Highly recommended.
Capacity planning is about a lot more than disk space,
which is probably the easiest part of it.
Jared
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> Just lurking as usual, but Craig Schallahammer (sp) has a fairly extensive
> tec
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How do you guys collect capacity planning metrics, such as DB size?
Do you use StatsPack, Oracle OEM, others? I'm interested in an efficient
method to track DB growth in GB month over month.
Best regards,
David B. Wagoner
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EWW
Let's just say it's the same as Jared's...Yeah, that's it! The
very same! And my wife, Morgan Fairchild, whom I've seen naked.
When you don't update those old scripts with newer versions of
Oracle they really look old and convoluted.
Rich
Rich Jesse System/Databa
ccurate.
Jared
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irly accurate.
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For anyone interested. I took one of those old scripts, modified it into a data
warehouse sort of implementation & then publish it every day & at month end as an
internal web page. There's a copy of today's output at
http://vdac2.vicr.com/space_new.html if your interested.
Dick Goulet
Senior
OK, I'll post it. Salt to taste or toss it in the garbage. Note that this
is just collecting data and doesn't make any recommendations or such.
Comments and critiques welcome, except from Mladen... (running for cover)
;)
And, of course, standard disclaimers apply!
Rich
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It should include all as you said , but since I
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It should include all as you said , but since I do not belong to a
capacity
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taken Sales as
One thing I don't think I've seen mentioned is the issue of storage
configuration and uptime requirements impact on capacity planning. Is the
planned system 7x24 or will there be maintenance windows to add storage?
Can storage be added hot or is downtime required. These issues will r
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> There is not really capac
There is not really capacity planning here. I'm
starting a new job as a permanent employee and since
my first project is quite small, I've started writing
a capacity planning guide hoping the other groups will
collaborate.
One thing we do is to run statspack each hour on all
production
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It should include all as you said , but since I do not belong to a
capacity
planning group in my shop , I mostly concentrate on the DB growth . I have
taken Sale
Hello All,
It should include all as you said , but since I do not belong to a capacity
planning group in my shop , I mostly concentrate on the DB growth . I have
taken Sales as business object to correlate with the DB size . I think in
our case both of them are directly proportional. ( Business
Check the link Kirti has posted (orapub).
Is capacity planning only on the database size ?
In my mind it also includes :
Transaction description (online and batch)
Transaction frequency (online and batch)
Transaction window
Networking requirements
Number of users (all and
into place. That table that holds 10 rows and just
might grow to 12 rows in 2 years isn't going to be your challenge.
Many packages that monitor performance over the long term also perform
capacity planning. I think OEM has this capability. Just go to
www.google.com <http://www.google.com&g
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I am
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followed in some shop to
Craig Shallahamer, www.orapub.com.
I've taken the class, it's excellent.
Two things you will learn:
* There's more to capacity planning than you thought
* It's not that hard to do, given the tools and techniques.
Jared
On Monday 24 June 2002 06:43, Schauss, Pete
Check out www.orapub.com. Craig Shallahamer conducts Capacity Planning
course. I have not yet attended one but I have heard from others that the
course is very good.
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ing about taking a course in capacity planning.
> Does anyone have any recommendations?
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Thanks to everyone who made suggestions on training courses.
Looking at my skill set and the requirements of my current
position, I am thinking about taking a course in capacity planning.
Does anyone have any recommendations?
Thanks,
Peter Schauss
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You have not specified how much memory is on the machine, neither have you
specified which application you will be running against the box. also, are
you going to be using an intelligent RAID controller device (EMC, Shark,
similar) with this ? Are you running this across a LAN / WAN ? Are a
Good morning,
I am trying determine whether a proposed 8-way Intel (Unisys ES7000) system
running Windows 2000 will support our anticipated work load.
I know this question has a LOT of variables but I don't even have a feel for
some of the numbers.
Two things:
One - just to get an idea of th
Check Craig Shallahamer's web site (http://www.orapub.com) for Capacity
Planning documents. He also conducts a training class on this topic. I have
yet to attend it, but I have heard that it is good and worth attending.
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Is any additional benefit in terms of performance in Oracle9i?
Does any one have documents on capacity planning?
Thx
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Go to
http://www.orapub.com
Craig Shallahamer is THE Guru on the subject. I took his course a couple
years ago - excellent!
Jack
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Hi all
Can anyone send me a doc or white
Hi all
Can anyone send me a doc or white paper
on capcity planning??
regards,
shibu
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Could anyone direct me to some excellent documentation on capacity planning
or give any insights that
Could anyone direct me to some excellent documentation on capacity planning or give
any insights that they might have?
Thanks
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Hi
What are the basic tips for capacity planning for hardware on oracle8.1.7?
Thanks
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> Any one has any links to white papaers ,ideas on Capacity Planning
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> Has anyone been through it all. Could u please guide .
>
> How do u estimate and Project :
>
> Space r
Agreement.
You will need this information to make any kind of meaningful
estimate of the CPU power and memory requirements.
A good site to visit for a CPU capacity planning tool is
www.orapub.com. There you will find an MS Excel workbook
that uses queuing theory to help determine the proper
s any links to white papaers ,ideas on Capacity Planning
for the database .
Has anyone been through it all. Could u please guide .
How do u estimate and Project :
Space required , Cpu Required , Memory required . I have a bit of idea
about Space estimation . But the other two are completel
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Hi List ,
Any one has any links to white papaers ,ideas on Capacity Planning
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How do u estimate and Project :
Space required , Cpu Required , Memory required . I have a bit of idea
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