Listener/Database shutdown sequence

2003-03-03 Thread david davis
Should the databases be shutdown before the listener or the other way around. A DBA here (actually at Service Provider) believes that the listener has to be shutdown before the databases in 8i according to some documentation (they can't recall). I am proposing: Set Oracle 817 environment

Re: Listener/Database shutdown sequence

2003-03-03 Thread Jeremiah Wilton
Why do you/they think it matters, regardless of the documentation? You can shut them down in any order you want. Users just get a different error if the listener is up vs. when it is down. Starting up, if services are registered via local_listener or mts_dispatchers, the listener should be up

RE: Listener/Database shutdown sequence

2003-03-03 Thread Nelson, Allan
There might be some docs somewhere but the issues are not as much technical as procedural. If you shut the database down, leave the listener up, and bring the database backup there are no connection problems except when the db is down. This implies that the instance and the listener are

RE: Listener/Database shutdown sequence

2003-03-03 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
David, it just doesn't matter. why do you even feel the need to shut the listener down? Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 9:59 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Should the databases be shutdown before the listener

RE: Listener/Database shutdown sequence

2003-03-03 Thread Pete Sharman
Sometimes it does matter what is stopped rather than the order, but we can't tell why the original poster was asking. It depends on your environment. For example, one site I worked at had a separate listener for every database in their environment. Their reasoning was they made life easier for

RE: Listener/Database shutdown sequence

2003-03-03 Thread david davis
Tom, It is for the server auto-start/auto-shutdown procedures run by root. From: Mercadante, Thomas F [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Listener/Database shutdown sequence Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 09:04:11 -0800

Fwd: Re: Listener/Database shutdown sequence

2003-03-03 Thread david davis
From: Jeremiah Wilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Listener/Database shutdown sequence Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 08:19:06 -0800 Why do you/they think it matters, regardless of the documentation? You can

Re: Listener/Database shutdown sequence

2003-03-03 Thread david davis
, the most successful path is the list. Thx David From: Jeremiah Wilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Listener/Database shutdown sequence Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 08:19:06 -0800 Why do you/they think it matters

RE: Listener/Database shutdown sequence

2003-03-03 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
-shutdown procedures run by root. From: Mercadante, Thomas F [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Listener/Database shutdown sequence Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 09:04:11 -0800 David, it just doesn't matter. why do you

RE: Listener/Database shutdown sequence

2003-03-03 Thread Jeremiah Wilton
OK, after emphatically stating it doesn't matter, I thought of a situation in which the order of shutting down could make a difference. In this scenario, you first must be the kind of person who needlessly insists on shutdown immediate (instead of abort). Second, you must have a very heavy rate