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2002-07-18 Thread dgoulet
Well, Let's see. It looked like Win2000 for the most part, acted like Win2000 only better & faster. Their Office look alike package (little different in feel but not functionality) worked like Office2000 just a little faster. And to boot they had a copy of Doom running right off of the Windows

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2002-07-18 Thread dgoulet
System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA > -Original Message- > From: Johnson, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 6:03 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE

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2002-07-17 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA > -Original Message- > From: Johnson, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 6:03 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: (Fwd/2) > &g

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2002-07-17 Thread Ji, Richard
>There are those that argue Apple provided competition >to Microsoft. Not very good competition, but competition >nonetheless and so the monopoly argument goes out >the window. Only because years ago, MS put money in it (100 mill?) and promised to port MS Office and IE to Mac to keep it alive,

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2002-07-17 Thread Johnson, Michael
national, Sussex, WI USA > -Original Message- > From: Johnson, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 6:03 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: (Fwd/2) > > > I would add to this .. > > In a free market

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2002-07-16 Thread Johnson, Michael
I would add to this .. In a free market system nobody should look at the negative side when people make money off of their hard work or investments. This is the way it is set up. Why not say "damn, how did he do it and where do I get in line to get some of that action ?" I always find i

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2002-07-16 Thread Tim Gorman
>> Certainly. I'm waiting for people to present more factual information. >> (Maybe Larry needed some petty cash for a new boat or something?) As the story was related to me, Ellison has been living off of loans (from banks, not Oracle) for the past couple decades. His alleged reasoning was that

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2002-07-16 Thread Orr, Steve
A lot of the current problem goes back to government intervention. Some politicians/bureaucrats complained that CEO salaries were too high or unfair and (as if they were fit to judge) they decided to "control" the high CEO salary "problem" via taxation. So guess what happened? Corporate boards fel

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2002-07-16 Thread Scott . Shafer
With any luck, they'll all have the privilege of meeting "Ray-Ray" on Cell Block D. Maybe we should move this to OT, eh? Scott Shafer San Antonio, TX 210-581-6217 > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 1:59 PM > To: Mult

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2002-07-16 Thread Igor Neyman
Not sure about "cash for a new boat ", but I'm sure read, that Ellison is getting his CEO salary in company stocks (not in cash). This could explain, him selling stocks, though 700,000,000 seems little high. The other point is, that Oracle stock didn't drop overnight - it was going down gradually

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2002-07-16 Thread Kirsh, Gary
A new boat, Ferrari, Mig fighter jet, mansion, maybe some Japanese art... the man has some serious expenses. Seriously, I know that Oracle had a problem with shady accounting practices many years ago (late 80's, if I recall correctly). Their stock took a huge hit, and they cleaned up their act.

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2002-07-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(test, posting from www.mail2web.com) Gary, Certainly. I'm waiting for people to present more factual information. (Maybe Larry needed some petty cash for a new boat or something?) Instead, what you see is people defending the social privileges of the wealthy technocorporate elites, and the eth

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2002-07-16 Thread Kirsh, Gary
Eric, Have you considered the POSSIBILITY that Larry sold the stock without the benefit of insider trading, and simply got lucky with his timing? After all, the main reason Oracle stock has lost so much value is not due to problems specific to the company, but due to problems in the market and

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2002-07-16 Thread Yechiel Adar
Hello Eric I think that you misunderstood. | Ellison probably took the money and ran when this | became apparent to him and many others. I know I did. So (regardless of whether Ellison is a good example, or not), do you think that there should be *any* accountability for the social damage caus