RE: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box

2002-01-22 Thread Gene Sais
--- Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 5:55 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:RE: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box I have both Sun and HP boxes. IMHO for OS installation and hardware replacement, Sun is much easier than HP. Actually, I've found everything easier on Sun,

RE: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box

2002-01-22 Thread Kimberly Smith
Région des Maritimes, MPO E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 5:55 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box I have both Sun and HP boxes. IMHO for OS installation and hardware replacemen

RE: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box

2002-01-22 Thread Andrey Bronfin
, Paul, I'll forward it to my boss... Anyone else to add to it? Thank you very much, Sergey Babich -Original Message- Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 3:55 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box Stay with HP. It's a hell of

RE: RE: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box

2002-01-22 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
I asked one of the SA's here, and he thinks the move to HP might be political on Oracle's part. I don't know how the HP - Compaq merger will go, that adds uncertainty. Esp. since Compaq has traditionally been an Intel supporter and they gobbled up Digital's Alpha technology. Meanwhile Scott McNe

RE: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box

2002-01-22 Thread Babich , Sergey
Thank you for your input. Regards, Sergey Babich -Original Message- Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 4:55 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:RE: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box I have both Sun and HP boxes. IMHO for OS installation and hardware replacement, Sun

RE: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box

2002-01-22 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
h anyway. Best regards, Sergey -Original Message- Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 3:25 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:RE: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box Sergey - Sorry for the confusion. Our ERP system is Lawson and I somehow had a brain fart and thought you were o

RE: RE: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box

2002-01-21 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
We have all.. HP-UX, Sun, AIX, Irix etc.. No major issues in the past several years. We had EMC go bad a couple of times. But all these servers have never crashed on us all of a sudden (touching wood). A couple of times we did have a couple of HP servers go down, but it was due to our internal pro

RE: RE: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box

2002-01-21 Thread Kimberly Smith
You will be ok. The only issues I have had are the normal hardware issues (CPU gone bad, etc). One thing that did concern me though is I was able to crash a box due to heave IO to one disk. We never did get around to investigating it any further though before they shut the plant. -Original

RE: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box

2002-01-21 Thread Fisher, Julie
riginal Message- Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 3:25 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box Sergey - Sorry for the confusion. Our ERP system is Lawson and I somehow had a brain fart and thought you were on that email list. If you management is

RE: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box

2002-01-21 Thread Babich , Sergey
-L Subject: RE: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box Sergey - Sorry for the confusion. Our ERP system is Lawson and I somehow had a brain fart and thought you were on that email list. If you management is just thinking about Unix, then the last thing you want to do is scare them off with an argument about which U

RE: RE: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box

2002-01-21 Thread Steve McClure
Considering I have a brand spanking new Sun box waiting for me in the Server room, this thread has been less than comforting. Not Stable?!? I am starting to miss my DG boxes already. Steve -Original Message- Smith Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 7:00 AM To: Multiple recipients of list O

RE: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box

2002-01-21 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
switch to UNIX, and that I call a major move! Let's see what happens. Thanks for your reply again. Best regards, Sergey -Original Message- Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 5:16 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:RE: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box Sergey - One factor

RE: RE: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box

2002-01-21 Thread Kimberly Smith
When Oracle said Sun was not stable I do not think they meant that in terms of running. I believe they mean that the libraries and what not change to much. When you are trying to code to a particular OS that can be annoying I guess. However, I am getting this not from Oracle themselves so who r

RE: RE: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box

2002-01-21 Thread Babich , Sergey
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RE: RE: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box

2002-01-21 Thread Conboy, Jim
These threads always crack me up. Its like religious wars. We've got both in house. Most of my stuff runs on the SUN boxes, and I have had no problems with the stability. I guess administration of the HPs is easier, but the Sun SAs aren't complaining so its pretty much a non-issue for us. As f

RE: RE: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box

2002-01-21 Thread Kimberly Smith
I heard that they already did. Something about Sun not being stable. -Original Message- Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 9:55 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Oracle Magazine have alot "Oracle for HP" articles, I think they are switching from Sun to HP -Original Messag

RE: RE: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box

2002-01-21 Thread Babich , Sergey
Thank you so very much. Best regards, Sergey -Original Message- Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 5:16 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:Re:RE: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box Sergey, I asked my SA to add his 2 cents, guess he's not inclined. Anyway, I've be

RE: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box

2002-01-21 Thread Babich , Sergey
mplating a switch to UNIX, and that I call a major move! Let's see what happens. Thanks for your reply again. Best regards, Sergey -Original Message- Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 5:16 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box

RE: RE: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box

2002-01-20 Thread Sinard Xing
Oracle Magazine have alot "Oracle for HP" articles, I think they are switching from Sun to HP -Original Message- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 January 2002 06:16 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sergey, I asked my SA to add his 2 cents, guess he's not inclined. Anyway, I'v

Re: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box

2002-01-20 Thread Steven Lembark
-- Mogens Nørgaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Funny. IBM is currently winning the Unix processor war, I think, with new > designs that HP, Compaq, HP and others will not catch up with for a > couple of years. But a Pentium 4 often outruns a couple of Unix > processors, and that's pretty scary to an

Re: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box

2002-01-20 Thread Mogens Nørgaard
Funny. IBM is currently winning the Unix processor war, I think, with new designs that HP, Compaq, HP and others will not catch up with for a couple of years. But a Pentium 4 often outruns a couple of Unix processors, and that's pretty scary to an old VMS fan. So running Linux on Pentium 4's o

RE: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box

2002-01-18 Thread Kimberly Smith
I believe that Sun is much cheaper to buy then HP. -Original Message- L. Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 12:00 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Our shop is switching from HP to Sun. No one can tell me why. There must be a cost savings somewhere. -Original Message-

RE: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box

2002-01-18 Thread Kimberly Smith
I work on both and like both. However, I would much rather work on HP. Number one, its the one I know best so I am biased in that way. When a Sun box crashes hard it takes much longer to come back up then a HP. At least on our site. There are pros and cons to both. -Original Message-

Re: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box

2002-01-18 Thread Jared . Still
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Re: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box

2002-01-18 Thread Gene Sais
here go the vendor wars again: for ha, go w/ hp, otherwise go for the most bang for the buck, depends on how desperate the sales person is? i've found hp's ha sw (mc serviceguard), backup sw omniback inexpensive compared to other vendors. look at the total package not just hardware, e.g. sto

RE: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box

2002-01-18 Thread Smith, Ron L.
Our shop is switching from HP to Sun. No one can tell me why. There must be a cost savings somewhere. -Original Message- Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 12:51 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi, dear listers, My boss has decided to switch production to a UNIX box and now h

Re: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box

2002-01-18 Thread Steven Lembark
-- "Babich , Sergey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hi, dear listers, > My boss has decided to switch production to a UNIX box and now he's asking > me for a recommendation between HP and SUN. I am a newbee to UNIX (to put > it the softest way). I've heard people say HP is better, but need more > than t

Re: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box

2002-01-18 Thread DBarbour
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RE: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box

2002-01-18 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Thank you, Paul, I'll forward it to my boss... Anyone else to add to it? Thank you very much, Sergey Babich -Original Message- Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 3:55 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: HP vs SUN

RE: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box

2002-01-18 Thread Babich , Sergey
Thanks, it is very important to me Regards, Serge -Original Message- Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 4:05 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:RE: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box Using both HP 11.0 and Solaris 2.8, I have a preference for HP. Just little toolset

RE: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box

2002-01-18 Thread Babich , Sergey
Thank you, Paul, I'll forward it to my boss... Anyone else to add to it? Thank you very much, Sergey Babich -Original Message- Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 3:55 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box Stay with HP. It

RE: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box

2002-01-18 Thread Jesse, Rich
Using both HP 11.0 and Solaris 2.8, I have a preference for HP. Just little toolset things like SAM for a GUI SysAdmin, "top" and "GlancePlus", although GlancePlus, a system monitor, I guess I would consider a huge advantage over what Sun offers. As far as the hardware, I guess I don't have a hu

RE: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box

2002-01-18 Thread Sherman, Paul R.
Stay with HP. It's a hell of a lot more reliable, and does not require anywhere near the # of patches, and its patches work far more often that Sun's. I've done 5 years with each, and there's no question that HP is superior. Thank you, Paul Sherman DBA voice - 781-501-4143 (office) fax- 78