RE: Sun to Linux on Dell

2003-06-11 Thread John . Whelan
Title: Message I'd go Windows on the Dell box. There are some quite nice tools like perfmon that can give you a lot of info about what is going on. My preferred Windows box though would be the Proliant, it's earned it's reputation over time for performance andreliability. Problem with a

RE: Sun to Linux on Dell

2003-06-09 Thread Stephen Lee
If you price the Dell servers, I think you will find there is little price advantage over a comparable (sort of) Sun 8-CPU box -- for example, Sun Fire V880. If the Sun 450 of which you speak is a few years old, then changing to almost any platform will get you CPU's that are a heck of a lot

RE: Sun to Linux on Dell

2003-06-09 Thread Matthew Zito
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Lee Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 1:40 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Sun to Linux on Dell If you price the Dell servers, I think you will find there is little price

RE: Sun to Linux on Dell

2003-06-09 Thread Steve McClure
, 2003 1:40 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Sun to Linux on Dell If you price the Dell servers, I think you will find there is little price advantage over a comparable (sort of) Sun 8-CPU box -- for example, Sun Fire V880. If the Sun 450 of which you speak is a few

RE: Sun to Linux on Dell

2003-06-09 Thread Stephen Lee
You have to watch out for those who think RAC is a synonymous with RAIB (Redundant Array of Inexpensive Boxes). It ain't. -Original Message- I feel like I should have started this response Hello my name is Steve McClure and I am a RAC on Linux doubter Really I have felt this way

RE: Sun to Linux on Dell

2003-06-09 Thread Jared . Still
, but shouldn't be too hard to find. Jared Steve McClure [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/09/2003 01:24 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Sun to Linux on Dell I would

Re: Sun to Linux on Dell

2003-06-09 Thread Mogens Nørgaard
Good one. The I in RAID started out as Inexpensive, but is now Independend - for obvious reasons :-). Just had a DML-heavy customer in an exotic country who saw 45% scaling on the third Linux node, and 0% when adding the fourth. 50% of time spent enqueue'ing. Yes, it's probably an application

RE: Sun to Linux on Dell

2003-06-09 Thread Steve McClure
Interestingly enough, RAC for Oracle Collaboration Server is a mere $60 per user, significantly less than normal RAC licensing. $60 per user...lets see Oracle claims we have 80,000 users...(not including the infinite internet users)...So that may not apply to us CPU licensers, I am guessing most

RE: Sun to Linux on Dell

2003-06-09 Thread Matthew Zito
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RE: Sun to Linux on Dell

2003-06-09 Thread Steve McClure
Ah much more reasonable. I can't believe I typed the word licensers -- I am guessing licensees was what I was going for Steve McClure Oracle Collaboration Server (Suite?) is licensed per-mailbox user $60 per user...lets see Oracle claims we have 80,000 users...(not including the infinite

Re: Sun to Linux on Dell

2003-06-09 Thread Anjo Kolk
A 4WD will get you much further into the swamp before you're stuck. But stuck you will be sooner or later. I thought that Anette had a GPS systems in her car ;-) -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Anjo Kolk INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network

Re: Sun to Linux on Dell

2003-06-09 Thread Mogens Nørgaard
Yes, and it allows her to find her way home - but only after someone has dragged her car out of the swamp. Anjo Kolk wrote: A 4WD will get you much further into the swamp before you're stuck. But stuck you will be sooner or later. I thought that Anette had a GPS systems in