RE: Re: OT - Linux books ??

2003-08-28 Thread Niall Litchfield
The Linux kernel is totally different, though you will find some code in it that is from System 4 UNIX. And maybe even from SCO G,DR Niall -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Niall Litchfield INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services--

Re: OT - Linux books ??

2003-08-27 Thread Tim Gorman
According to http://developer.apple.com;... Q. What is Darwin? A. Darwin is a version of the BSD UNIX operating system that offers advanced networking, services such as the Apache web server, and support for both Macintosh and UNIX file systems. It

Re: OT - Linux books ??

2003-08-27 Thread Mladen Gogala
Thanks, Tim! I was under the impression that OS/X is based on Unix the same way NT is based on VMS. I don't have access to any of the Apple hardware, but knowing the history, I wasn't sure what should I think of OS/X. Thanks again for a nice clarification. On 2003.08.26 21:59, Tim Gorman wrote:

Re: OT - Linux books ??

2003-08-27 Thread Prem Khanna J
Thanks Guys. I will go for Linux Administration Handbook. Regards, Jp. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Prem Khanna J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California--

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2003-08-27 Thread Tim Gorman
The Mac GUI sits on top of OS X/Darwin/FreeBSD similar to the way X-Windows or Gnome or KDE sits on top of other UNIXs/Linuxs... on 8/26/03 8:59 PM, Mladen Gogala at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Tim! I was under the impression that OS/X is based on Unix the same way NT is based on VMS. I

Re: Re: OT - Linux books ??

2003-08-27 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi! Mac OS X has modified mach microkernel, FreeBSD userspace, FreeBSD NetBSD drivers and Aqua user interface. from http://developer.apple.com/darwin Beneath the appealing, easy-to-use interface of Mac OS X is a rock-solid foundation that is engineered for stability, reliability, and

Re: OT - Linux books ??

2003-08-27 Thread Tanel Poder
Yes, and you have regular shell with all/many unix features available in OS/X :) And I really like their guy... Tanel. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 8:29 AM The Mac GUI sits on top of OS

Re: OT - Linux books ??

2003-08-27 Thread Tanel Poder
Yes, and you have regular shell with all/many unix features available in OS/X :) And I really like their guy... It was the GUI what I like :D Tanel. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tanel Poder INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services

Re: Re: OT - Linux books ??

2003-08-27 Thread Nuno Souto
Apart form all the others you've already heard about, Fujitsu and some of their subsidiaries also have their own Unix flavour. I believe Unisys and NCR also have their own. Cheers Nuno Souto [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL

Re: OT - Linux books ??

2003-08-26 Thread Dwayne Cox
Both are good but the second on your list is particularly useful for admin work. In my opinion, the first is more of a getting your feet wet kinda book but still useful as a reference. Dwayne Prem Khanna J wrote: Guys, ...thought of buying a good book for linux system administration. i

Re: Re: OT - Linux books ??

2003-08-26 Thread rgaffuri
Tue AM 08:54:29 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT - Linux books ?? Both are good but the second on your list is particularly useful for admin work. In my opinion, the first is more of a getting your feet wet kinda book but still useful

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2003-08-26 Thread Talbot, Fraser
Red Hat Linux Networking and System Administration from Redhat press is very good. Fraser Talbot M-I LLC Database Administrator Information Technology 832.295.2245 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 7:54 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Both

Re: OT - Linux books ??

2003-08-26 Thread Joe Testa
. is it just little syntax differences or is there alot more to it? From: Dwayne Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/08/26 Tue AM 08:54:29 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT - Linux books ?? Both are good but the second on your list is particularly useful

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2003-08-26 Thread John Flack
Not just Sun - SCO Unixware puts it there too. -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 9:45 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L administering oracle is not really an issue cause sql*plus is sql*plus regardless, now from the OS side, Solaris can be a pain to bring

Re: Re: OT - Linux books ??

2003-08-26 Thread Nuno Souto
- Original Message - how different is it to administer oracle on different flavors of unix? Im running into some annoying nuassances in syntax between solaris korn shell and hp-unix korn shell. is it just little syntax differences or is there alot more to it? You sure it's HP

Re: Re: OT - Linux books ??

2003-08-26 Thread rgaffuri
by that is such things as monitoring I/O, etc... Systems Admin and DBA work overlaps. is it alot different on different unix systems? From: Joe Testa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/08/26 Tue AM 09:44:33 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT - Linux books

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2003-08-26 Thread rgaffuri
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: OT - Linux books ?? - Original Message - how different is it to administer oracle on different flavors of unix? Im running into some annoying nuassances in syntax between solaris korn shell and hp-unix korn shell

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2003-08-26 Thread Kevin Toepke
unix systems? From: Joe Testa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/08/26 Tue AM 09:44:33 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT - Linux books ?? administering oracle is not really an issue cause sql*plus is sql*plus regardless, now from the OS side

RE: Re: OT - Linux books ??

2003-08-26 Thread Mladen Gogala
Well, IBM has AIX, a very solid and stable version of unix which works really well. SCO has become very popular lately and using SCO Unix will turn you into the most popular guy on this list. Then there is Irix, made by SGI. HP actually has several unix versions Tru64, HP-UX, Tandem Unix, Ultrix,

RE: Re: OT - Linux books ??

2003-08-26 Thread Matthew Zito
, 2003 12:24 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Re: OT - Linux books ?? Well, IBM has AIX, a very solid and stable version of unix which works really well. SCO has become very popular lately and using SCO Unix will turn you into the most popular guy on this list

RE: Re: OT - Linux books ??

2003-08-26 Thread rgaffuri
i thought linux was just unix designed to run on a PC. how different is the kernel? From: Matthew Zito [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/08/26 Tue PM 01:24:26 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re: OT - Linux books ?? And of course, there's the other

RE: Re: OT - Linux books ??

2003-08-26 Thread Mladen Gogala
-220-3551 Phone: 212-358-8211 x 359 http://www.gridapp.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mladen Gogala Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 12:24 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Re: OT - Linux books ?? Well, IBM

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2003-08-26 Thread Thater, William
Mladen Gogala scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: AIX phased out in favor of Linux? I believe that SCO asked for injunction to prevent IBM from distributing AIX, and there is a whole saga around SCO and Linux. According to some, Unix variants are like higlanders: there can be only one.

RE: Re: OT - Linux books ??

2003-08-26 Thread Matthew Zito
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 1:40 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Re: OT - Linux books ?? i thought linux was just unix designed to run on a PC. how different is the kernel? From: Matthew Zito

RE: Re: OT - Linux books ??

2003-08-26 Thread Matthew Zito
-8211 x 359 http://www.gridapp.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mladen Gogala Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 1:44 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Re: OT - Linux books ?? AIX phased out in favor of Linux? I

RE: Re: OT - Linux books ??

2003-08-26 Thread Mladen Gogala
is the kernel? From: Matthew Zito [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/08/26 Tue PM 01:24:26 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re: OT - Linux books ?? And of course, there's the other free UNIXes - the BSDs (OpenBSD, FreeBSD, NetBSD). Tragically, none

RE: Re: OT - Linux books ??

2003-08-26 Thread rgaffuri
linux from unix? From: Mladen Gogala [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/08/26 Tue PM 02:34:28 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re: OT - Linux books ?? Different from what? It's very different from NT kernel. -- Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA

Re: Re: OT - Linux books ??

2003-08-26 Thread Tanel Poder
designed to run on a PC. how different is the kernel? From: Matthew Zito [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/08/26 Tue PM 01:24:26 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re: OT - Linux books ?? And of course, there's the other free UNIXes - the BSDs

Re: Re: OT - Linux books ??

2003-08-26 Thread Tanel Poder
PROTECTED] Cell: 646-220-3551 Phone: 212-358-8211 x 359 http://www.gridapp.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mladen Gogala Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 12:24 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Re: OT

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2003-08-26 Thread Mladen Gogala
Define based? -- Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA -Original Message- Tanel Poder Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 4:44 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L AFAIK, Apples unix is based on [Open|Free]BSD as well. Tanel. Note: This message is for the named person's use only. It may