RE: TNSPING VS. REGULAR PING..! WHY SUCH A DIFFERENCE

2003-12-29 Thread Jerome Roa
Asan si Hannah? At 05:54 AM 12/23/2003 -0800, you wrote: PING doesnt actually use a port number, as it's not TCP/IP based - it's a part of the ICMP protocol.. Mark -Original Message- Ganesh Raja Sent: 23 December 2003 13:40 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L TNSping uses the Port

Re: TNSPING VS. REGULAR PING..! WHY SUCH A DIFFERENCE

2003-12-28 Thread Peter . McLarty
PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: TNSPING VS. REGULAR PING..! WHY SUCH A DIFFERENCE I agree that this difference might be only because sqlnet is much more fat that ICMP. But anyway, could some overhead be added be because the failover load balancing clauses that require extra

Re: TNSPING VS. REGULAR PING..! WHY SUCH A DIFFERENCE

2003-12-27 Thread Tanel Poder
I agree that this difference might be only because sqlnet is much more "fat" that ICMP. But anyway, could some overhead be added be because the failover load balancing clauses that require extra work? Also, if listener logs every connection, this might add some extra IO time as well (if

RE: TNSPING VS. REGULAR PING..! WHY SUCH A DIFFERENCE

2003-12-23 Thread Mark Leith
I came across just this last week with one of our monitoring tools. We set up an execution of a script that was using PING to check whether the status of a list of remote POS devices to make sure they were available. The collection worked fine - until we shutdown the POS device, and physically

RE: TNSPING VS. REGULAR PING..! WHY SUCH A DIFFERENCE

2003-12-23 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
ANd one more thing about Ping vs Tnsping when going thru a firewall. Some firewalls are setup to not allow a Ping to pass thru, but sql connections are allowed. So a Ping will return not found, while a tnsping will return ok. I have that situation here all over the freakin place. Tom

RE: TNSPING VS. REGULAR PING..! WHY SUCH A DIFFERENCE

2003-12-23 Thread Ganesh Raja
TNSping uses the Port 1521 to communicate .. Not Sure which Port Ping will use.. HTH Regards, Ganesh R HP : (+65)9067-8474 Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] == All Opinions expressed are my own and do not in anyway reflect those of my employer

RE: TNSPING VS. REGULAR PING..! WHY SUCH A DIFFERENCE

2003-12-23 Thread Mark Leith
PING doesnt actually use a port number, as it's not TCP/IP based - it's a part of the ICMP protocol.. Mark -Original Message- Ganesh Raja Sent: 23 December 2003 13:40 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L TNSping uses the Port 1521 to communicate .. Not Sure which Port Ping will

RE: TNSPING VS. REGULAR PING..! WHY SUCH A DIFFERENCE

2003-12-23 Thread QuijadaReina, Julio C
Mark is right, Ping uses ICMP Echo_Request and Echo_Response. Since ICMP sit on the Network Layer along with ARP and the IP protocols, it does not need to use any TCP or UDP port number. TCP and UDP protocols need a number to differentiate from the rest of protocols, therefore the expression port

Re: TNSPING VS. REGULAR PING..! WHY SUCH A DIFFERENCE

2003-12-22 Thread Paul Drake
Murali Vallath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have recently noticed in this one situation that there is a great difference between a tnsping vs a regular ping to the same server.   for example  this tnsping took about 270 ms which is strange and its consistent Used TNSNAMES adapter to resolve the

Re: TNSPING VS. REGULAR PING..! WHY SUCH A DIFFERENCE

2003-12-22 Thread Jared Still
Paul mentioned a few reasons for this. Another is that a ping does not get past the NIC. The ping is answered by software running on the card. You may have noticed at times that a ping is not a reliable method for determining if a server is still functioning. The OS can crash, but the NIC