The interesting fact of course is that the beta program
of 10g was announced in newsgroups AFTER it had closed
for all intents and purposes to the general public...
And quite frankly, Oracle could do a LOT WORSE than let
customers like Mogens definitely join. Just a feeling,
mind you. If Oracle
Amen...
Cheers
Nuno Souto
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I really do not intend to go with the flow. Fortunately, there are other databases
and oracle's behavior is motivating me to start giving them serious considerations.
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Isn't that what Oracle has always done?
I've got a funny feeling it's gonna start
biting back really hard...
Cheers
Nuno Souto
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guys decide to put out a limited production version? Prolonging the hype
would not serve any useful purpose, except may
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They will think differently after Mogens comes out with the Do you really
need 10g presentation ;)
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The interesting fact of course is that the beta program
of 10g was announced in newsgroups AFTER it had closed
for all intents
I think he's skipping that one to go direct to Do you really need
Oracle? :)
Pete
Controlling developers is like herding cats.
Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook
Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than that!
Bruce Pihlamae, long-term Oracle DBA
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10g has about 30 "basic" parameters such are
db_name andsga_target, a real bunch of "advanced" parameters and the
rest are undocumented parameters.
So, the marketing pe
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And how do you join one ?Denny[Shrek]
you
have
I believe that we should start using Postgres or MySQL, not to infringe on
oracle secrets. After all, those secrets must be mighty precious when they're
protecting them from their own customers. I believe that the whole thing is about
giving consultants time to master oracle 10 before releasing
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Well, I think part of the problem is a perception (how valid it is I
don't think I'm in a position to say, but the perception certainly
exists) that allowing access to the code too early simply provides
ammunition for competitors to be far more prepared than we'd like them
to be. :)
8
That perception came into being quite recently. I believe that Oracle Corp.
should change that perception and they need our help to do so. As I've said
before, if nobody was using oracle, their secrets would be perfectly safe,
just as Ingres or dBase IV secrets are. Graveyard is full of
No no. That's the rings of Saturn made of lost airline luggage, discarded
accordions, and now secrets. I think microchannel bus is up there.
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Graveyard is full of companies whose
secrets are safe.
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Pete,
Is Mladen bigger than you???
Carel-Jan
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Well, I think part of the problem
is a perception (how valid it is I
don't think I'm in a position to say, but the perception certainly
exists) that allowing access to the code too early simply provides
ammunition
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Pete,
Is Mladen bigger than you???
Carel-Jan
At 16:44 8-12-03 -0800, you wrote:
Well, I
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Pete,
Is Mladen bigger than you???
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Well, once upon a time, in a land far, far away, there was Oracle V6 with
something called TPO, which was essentially row locking + PL/SQL V1 (no
stored procedures). My guess is that Cary Millsap, Anjo Kolk, Steve Feuerstein
and Howard Rogers know a thing or two about the Jurassic period in the
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Larry Ellison has publicly stated that his goal is to produce a database with
less then 100 tunable
somebody has free time on his hands. Jared, what's your bosses
email addy?
Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional
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So I
believe your unstated point is that the only thing that needs to be reduced is
Mr. E's marketing hype. ;-)
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Though there has been an
average increase in the total number of init parameter of 83% from
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somebody has free time on his hands. Jared, what's your bosses email addy?
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At 11:59 8-12-03 -0800, you wrote:
Larry Ellison has publicly stated that his goal is to produce a database with
less then 100 tunable parameters. Allegedly, he came rather close with 10g.
Aaargh, that's why LOG_ARCHIVE_DEST_n gets so many options that
documentation of one parameter takes 56
On 2003.12.08 17:24, Pete Sharman wrote:
Well, you could have joined the beta program if you were THAT
interested, Mladen!
I missed the opportunity because I was amid changing jobs. I tried to lay my hands
on the software several times since then, to no avail.
Ducks and runs. :)
No
Well, I think part of the problem is a perception (how valid it is I
don't think I'm in a position to say, but the perception certainly
exists) that allowing access to the code too early simply provides
ammunition for competitors to be far more prepared than we'd like them
to be. :)
And no
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