WOW! Those are some good stories to keep in mind... And some folks wonder why techies
like working with computers more than working with people. ;-)
Trying to be wise as a serpent and harmless as a dove...
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Reports on Bugs in IBM's DB2 which led to a critical
operational situation
http://theregister.co.uk/content/archive/30095.html
and
http://www.danskebank.com/link/ITreport20030403uk/$file/ITreport20030403uk.pdf
Report on Orbitz blaming an outage on Oracle's 9iRAC [and Orbitz going out of
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Interesting quote in eWeek. We may all be "smart guys", but how
often do we like to admit to causing a problem.
Dick GouletSenior Oracle DBAOracle Certified 8i DBA
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This reminds of watching the Indy 500 a couple of years ago.
One of the drivers managed to spin in turn 4 of the first lap of the race,
and subsequently was unable to finish the race.
Before continuing, you need to know that when in a corner, one thing
you should *never* do is take your foot off
I prefer my bosses attitude on the subject of mistakes:
Admit that you did it then go fix it. We'll crucify you later, if we have
the time.
For some reason, known only to the Devil himself, they never find the time.
Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA
Title: RE: Recent reports on outages caused by DB2 and 9iRAC issues
Dick,
we don't share the same boss ... do we?
Raj
Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com
All Views expressed in this email are strictly
I always admit when I make a mistake. Gives me much more credibility
when I say this time it ISN'T me
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I prefer my bosses attitude on the subject of mistakes:
Admit that you did it then go fix it. We'll crucify you later, if
we have the time.
I've only made one mistake in my life and that was the time when I
thought I was wrong. ;-)
OK, getting serious... I've found it's best to QUICKLY be 100% truthful.
If you get crucified for it then it may be that damagement needs to
lighten up. Unfortunately the fear of damagement causes wheel
I typically will not work for a boss who isn't like that. If I screw up, I'm the
first to admit it
(generally by a blood curdling scream). You can rake my sorry a. over the coals once
the problem
has been resolved.
Ron Thomas
Hypercom, Inc
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Each new user of a new system
Title: RE: Recent reports on outages caused by DB2 and 9iRAC issues
Raj,
My previous boss's attitude was:
To error is Human.
To forgive is not SAC policy.
SAC=
Starategic Air Command.
Dick GouletSenior Oracle DBAOracle Certified 8i DBA
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Title: RE: Recent reports on outages caused by DB2 and 9iRAC issues
He-he. I stil have my SAC shoulder patch
a mock of one with that phrase and it shows a fist holding a pair of
well Dick, you have one too, Ill bet.
:)
--Walt Weaver
Former KC-135 puke
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That's funny, I thought SAC's motto was SAC eats it's young.
Scott Shafer
San Antonio, TX
210.581.6217
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Not only should you confess to what you did promptly, confess to
everything else too. If you do that often enough they quit believing
you }:-)
-rje
O I've only made one mistake in my life and that was the time when I
O thought I was wrong. ;-)
O OK, getting serious... I've found it's
There use to be a third line to that that read Summary executions are SAC policy,
but it just wasn't politically correct.
Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA
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If anyone has any inside info on the Orbitz problem, I'd like to hear it.
Email me private if you like, I'll take what you tell me to the grave.
Robert
Robert G. Freeman
TUSC
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my 2ยข is it all depends on who you are.
A few good ones I'm aware of.
Confessors
within the last 9 months, I know of one company where a DBA (unknown to
mgt.) inadvertently dropped something and was able to fix it within a few
minutes. I'm not sure if anyone other than operations noticed.
Mgt.
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I'm all for summary executions due to the latter... :-)
How nice. Fortunately, SAC doesn't
much listen to your ideas...
Cheers
Nuno Souto
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