Re: SMON - Does it cause a degrade?

2002-01-26 Thread Rachel Carmichael
do NOT set pctincrease to 1 even in this case. when you allow SMON to coalesce whenever it wants, it does just that, WHENEVER it wants -- even if you have heavy user activity. So at that time SMON is ignoring what it has to do for the users. Also, SMON coalesce does a very small coalesce, (I ca

Re: SMON - Does it cause a degrade?

2002-01-25 Thread Jared Still
I think I mentioned this earlier. :) SMON will do a coalesce if necessary to provide blocks for an extent, if necessary. The following link tells all. This may be in the 8i manual, but it works the same way in the Oracle 7. http://otn.oracle.com/docs/products/oracle8i/doc_library/817_doc/ser

RE: SMON - Does it cause a degrade?

2002-01-25 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
Cary Millsap, in his 'Myths About Extents' presentation advocates turning off the auto-coalescing by SMON, stating that the auto-coalesce feature does more harm than good. He had presented this at OAUG Database SIG meeting in Hawaii (held in Oct, 2000). - Kirti -Original Message- Se

Re: SMON - Does it cause a degrade?

2002-01-25 Thread Rajesh . Rao
Okie. To be more specific. This is a siebel application running against a 7.3.4 database. So the 8i features for space management are out of the question. Second, there are large tables with varied values for initial and next extent in the tablespace. There are also going to be temporary tables c

RE: SMON - Does it cause a degrade?

2002-01-25 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: SMON - Does it cause a degrade? Hey Fellas, I have an application DBA who insists that the pctincrease at the data tablespace should be set to 0 so that SMON does not coalesce the

Re: SMON - Does it cause a degrade?

2002-01-25 Thread Rachel Carmichael
ECTED] > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 01/25/02 01:50 PM > Please respond to ORACLE-L > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > cc: > Subject:SMON - Does it cause a degrade? > > > Hey Fellas,

Re: SMON - Does it cause a degrade?

2002-01-25 Thread Rachel Carmichael
Why the heck would you set pctincrease to anything but 0 at the tablespace level. All you need is one table, created without storage parameters and you are fragmented. Try "Stop Defragmenting and Start Living"... what you want to do is exactly what your DBA said, with the addition of either local

RE: SMON - Does it cause a degrade?

2002-01-25 Thread Rajesh . Rao
Thanks Melissa. I was wrong, I guess. For this is what I found on Metalink. 1. Because SMON acquires the Space Transaction (ST) enqueue in exclusive mode, other processes requiring the enqueue will be blocked. This is typically manifested by multiple errors. 2. SMON sits in a very tight loop

Re: SMON - Does it cause a degrade?

2002-01-25 Thread Jared . Still
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/25/02 01:50 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: SMON - Does it cause a degrade? Hey Fellas, I have an application DBA who insists that the pctincrease at the d

RE: SMON - Does it cause a degrade?

2002-01-25 Thread Godlewski, Melissa
Title: RE: SMON - Does it cause a degrade? Check out meta link note:61997.1  SMON - Temporary Segment Cleanup and Free Space Coalescing.  For one explanation. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 4:50 PM To: Multiple

SMON - Does it cause a degrade?

2002-01-25 Thread Rajesh . Rao
Hey Fellas, I have an application DBA who insists that the pctincrease at the data tablespace should be set to 0 so that SMON does not coalesce the tablespace. He says coalesce will be performed by using a scheduled batch job written for that purpose. He states that having SMON to perform an coal