RE: Tablespaces - datafiles

2003-03-13 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
tform dependencies maybe? Jared "Mercadante, Thomas F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/11/2003 06:19 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject:RE: Tables

RE: Tablespaces - datafiles

2003-03-12 Thread Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY)
Jared "Mercadante, Thomas F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/11/2003 06:19 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L Subject:RE: Tablespaces - datafiles LeRoy, I just struggled with this last week. You can't move Temporary Data files. You need t

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2003-03-12 Thread Spears, Brian
3/11/2003 06:19 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject:RE: Tablespaces - datafiles LeRoy, I just struggled with this last week. You can't move Temporary Data files. You need to drop

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2003-03-11 Thread Nick Wagner
Title: RE: Tablespaces - datafiles there was an old (as in it's now fixed) VxFS bug that sparse files did not actually free up the space after they were deleted.  It will also cause df, du, and ls to show different values.    Nick     -Original Message-From: Johnston, Tim [m

Re: Tablespaces - datafiles

2003-03-11 Thread Jared . Still
2:28 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject:Re: Tablespaces - datafiles When a regular datafile is created, Oracle writes 0s to the blocks. TEMPORARY files are created as 'sparse

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2003-03-11 Thread Johnston, Tim
Title: RE: Tablespaces - datafiles Not on that machine...  Although we do have VxFS here and the behavior is the same as UFS...  As others have pointed out, it is using sparse files for temporary tablespaces and these can "bite you" if you are not careful...   Out of curiosity, w

RE: Tablespaces - datafiles

2003-03-11 Thread M Rafiq
as immediately created full size. Platform dependencies maybe? Jared "Mercadante, Thomas F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/11/2003 06:19 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

RE: Tablespaces - datafiles

2003-03-11 Thread Richard Ji
cies maybe? Jared "Mercadante, Thomas F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/11/2003 06:19 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: RE: Tablespa

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2003-03-11 Thread Nick Wagner
Title: RE: Tablespaces - datafiles are you using VxFS? -Original Message- From: Johnston, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 12:14 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Tablespaces - datafiles Create the tablespace and look at it with

Re: Tablespaces - datafiles

2003-03-11 Thread Daniel W. Fink
When a regular datafile is created, Oracle writes 0s to the blocks. TEMPORARY files are created as 'sparse' files. Essentially, a header and footer are created, space is allocated in the file control structures, but nothing else is written. IIRC, this was introduced in Oracle8i, but not really

RE: Tablespaces - datafiles

2003-03-11 Thread Darrell Landrum
06:19 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject:RE: Tablespaces - datafiles LeRoy, I just struggled with this last week. You can't move Temporary Data files. You need to dr

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2003-03-11 Thread Wolfgang Breitling
Title: RE: Tablespaces - datafiles Yes, the ability to create "sparse" tempfiles is platform dependent. At 11:42 AM 3/11/2003 -0800, you wrote: >Tom, > >Do you have that doc ref handy? > >Using this SQL: > >create temporary tablespace temp3 tempfile '/u0

RE: Tablespaces - datafiles

2003-03-11 Thread Denny Koovakattu
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > cc: > Subject:RE: Tablespaces - datafiles > > > LeRoy, > > I just struggled with this last week. You can't move Temporary Data > files. > You need to dro

RE: Tablespaces - datafiles

2003-03-11 Thread Johnston, Tim
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: RE: Tablespaces - datafiles LeRoy, I just struggled with this last week. You can't move Temporary Data files. You need to drop and recreate the TEMP tablespace - creating the d

RE: Tablespaces - datafiles

2003-03-11 Thread M Rafiq
L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject:RE: Tablespaces - datafiles LeRoy, I just struggled with this last week. You can't move Temporary Data files. You need to drop and recreate the TEMP tablespace - creating the data files in the correct directories. On a side note - here is a

RE: Tablespaces - datafiles

2003-03-11 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: RE: Tablespaces - datafiles LeRoy, I just struggled with this last week. You can't move Temporary Data files. You need to drop and recreate the TEMP

RE: Tablespaces - datafiles

2003-03-11 Thread Jared . Still
Platform dependencies maybe? Jared "Mercadante, Thomas F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/11/2003 06:19 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: RE: Tablespa

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2003-03-11 Thread gmei
ACE to this new temporary tablespace 6. Drop temp1 and remove it's OS files HTH. Guang > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of LeRoy > Kemnitz > Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 8:39 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

RE: Tablespaces - datafiles

2003-03-11 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
LeRoy, I just struggled with this last week. You can't move Temporary Data files. You need to drop and recreate the TEMP tablespace - creating the data files in the correct directories. On a side note - here is an interesting feature. When Oracle creates files for the TEMP tablespace, it does n

RE: Tablespaces - datafiles

2003-03-11 Thread gmei
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > Mercadante, > Thomas F > Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 9:19 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: Tablespaces - datafiles > . > Now here is the kicker. Let's say you have a disk that is 9 >

Tablespaces - datafiles

2003-03-11 Thread LeRoy Kemnitz
All - I am having a problem with the datafiles in a temporary tablespace. I need to move and rename three different datafiles in the tablespace. I am able to take them offline - no problem. I cna make the changes at the OS level. I am running on Unix. But I can't get the changes to show up in