RE: OFFTOPIC - RE: Which is faster, Metalink or...

2001-03-27 Thread Richard Ji
Me going upstream against Naigara fall. -Original Message- Beilstein Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 3:19 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Water flowing uphill (that never works either) >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/27/01 02:52PM >>> Turtles walking through peanut butter in January

RE: OFFTOPIC - RE: Which is faster, Metalink or...

2001-03-27 Thread Kevin Kostyszyn
Metalink, hands down. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mohan, RossSent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 2:52 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: OFFTOPIC - RE: Which is faster, Metalink or... Turtles walking through

OFFTOPIC - RE: Which is faster, Metalink or...

2001-03-27 Thread William Beilstein
Water flowing uphill (that never works either) >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/27/01 02:52PM >>> Turtles walking through peanut butter in January? -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 2:32 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L A snail going uphill through jungle vegetation?

RE: Which is faster, Metalink or...

2001-03-27 Thread gregory . t . norris
Especially when it's a stampeding herd of turtles!!! -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 1:52 PM To: ORACLE-L Cc: MohanR Turtles walking through peanut butter in January? -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 2:32 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORA

OFFTOPIC - RE: Which is faster, Metalink or...

2001-03-27 Thread Mohan, Ross
Turtles walking through peanut butter in January? -Original Message-From: Chuck Hamilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 2:32 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Which is faster, Metalink or... A snail going uphill through jungle

Which is faster, Metalink or...

2001-03-27 Thread Chuck Hamilton
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RE: Which is faster??

2001-03-27 Thread Martin Kendall
Thanks guys. -Original Message- Sent: 26 March 2001 18:26 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Direct patch sqlldr (and insert-append) do allow indexes - its just that you get slugged a little more on rollback and redo... I don't have any metrics to compare - typical usage of eithe

RE: Which is faster??

2001-03-26 Thread Connor McDonald
Direct patch sqlldr (and insert-append) do allow indexes - its just that you get slugged a little more on rollback and redo... I don't have any metrics to compare - typical usage of either tends be to the ol' a) drop ind, b) load, c) redindex hth connor --- Martin Kendall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w

RE: Which is faster??

2001-03-26 Thread Witold Iwaniec
As far as I remember direct load allows to load data into indexed table - it "disables" indexes for the loading time and builds the indexes once, after the load completes. Also it prepares binary array corresponding to the table layout and writes directly to the file. Conventional load basical

RE: Which is faster??

2001-03-26 Thread Martin Kendall
I know that Direct Path of sqlldr does not allow Indexes so what is the comparative performance of this suggestion if the given Table is indexed ? Martin -Original Message- Sent: 23 March 2001 09:05 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L If you're on 8.0 or higher, try insert /*+ AP

RE: APPEND hint (Was: Which is faster??)

2001-03-25 Thread Steve Adams
Hi Yong, I don't think that's right. Try it on a table with no indexes, and dump the redo and undo blocks afterwards. My tests show that there is no row level redo (layer 11) except against the data dictionary tables for space management, regardless of whether the table or tablespace is defined a

Re: APPEND hint (Was: Which is faster??)

2001-03-24 Thread yong huang
Hi, Connor, The append hint to insert does not disable generating rollback info. It does stop redo generation for a nologging table. Yong Huang [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: If you're on 8.0 or higher, try insert /*+ APPEND */ into table select * from other_table; where "table" is defined as

Re: ksh version problem (Was: Which is faster??)

2001-03-24 Thread yong huang
Hi, Mandar, I think your ksh is not Version 93. Here's from UWin (Korn shell for Windows, www.research.att.com/sw/tools/uwin/): $ var=tester $ echo $var tester $ echo ${var//e/o} tostor Unfortunately, it's not easy to get ksh93 on a UNIX box due to (I believe) licensing issues. Yong Huang [EMA

RE: Which is faster??

2001-03-23 Thread Hillman, Alex
Subject:Re: Which is faster?? Thank you all for the reply. Probbaly I need to do more test. My concern is that whether it's ok to do the buld insert of 9 million records(say 2.7GB) on a 1 GB RBS? I think the RBS should also be at least 3GB,

Re: Which is faster??

2001-03-23 Thread CC Harvest
Thank you all for the reply. Probbaly I need to do more test. My concern is that whether it's ok to do the buld insert of 9 million records(say 2.7GB) on a 1 GB RBS? I think the RBS should also be at least 3GB, right? Thanks, Chris --- Connor McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you're on 8

Re: Which is faster??

2001-03-23 Thread Ron Rogers
Chris, Does the destination table have to be recoverable? If not you could built the table with the UNRECOVERABLE clause and your problem is solved. In large inserts from one table to another for archive purposes, I get around the large RBS problem by using a procedure with a commit every 2000

Re: Which is faster??

2001-03-23 Thread Connor McDonald
If you're on 8.0 or higher, try insert /*+ APPEND */ into table select * from other_table; where "table" is defined as nologging. Then you won't hit either redo logs or rollback segments..Its the equivalent of a sqlldr direct load hth connor --- CC Harvest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have

Re: Which is faster??

2001-03-22 Thread C.S.Venkata Subramanian
You can try the Bulk insert feature of Oracle. It is available from Oracle 8i onwards. It really reduces time. -- On Thu, 22 Mar 2001 18:35:21 CC Harvest wrote: >I have the following scripts: > >insert into table >select * from table2 >; > >So if use the about bulk statement in my >applicat

Which is faster??

2001-03-22 Thread CC Harvest
I have the following scripts: insert into table select * from table2 ; So if use the about bulk statement in my application, and the table2 is big, say 10 million records, my concern is that it's going to fail because of the possible rollback segments failure. So then I have to use PL/SQL to c

RE: Which is faster?

2001-02-20 Thread Johan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Services
I don't think there is any question. A smart select statement always tends to be a better solution. The one instance where I'd definitly prefer a procedure over a select is when the select contains Oracle's tree-walk method (i.e. connect by prior... start with) Regards JL -Original Message

Which is faster?

2001-02-20 Thread Andor Gyula
Hi Gurus ! I'm going to some tables with huge amount of records. There are references between these tables. The question is: Does it worth creating a procedure with several small selects or is it faster to use one select with joins? For example: CUSTOMER(CUST_ID); CONTRACT(CONTR_ID,CUST_ID); C