Re: PCTFREE and PCTUSED

2003-11-04 Thread Mladen Gogala
OK, I used to teach DBA courses and that was one of my favorite topics so let me give it a shot here: 1) If the free space percentage in the block falls below PCTFREE, the block is taken off the free list. Heuristically speaking, we can say that oracle does its best to keep the block PCTFREE

Re: Re: explain plan conundrum

2003-11-04 Thread Ryan
the data is very skewed, but i included 'for all indexes' and for all indexed columns. doesnt that create histograms? or do i have the syntax wrong. what i really needed was histograms, Ill bet. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday,

Re: PCTFREE and PCTUSED

2003-11-04 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi! Note that a block can come off freelist also when it's usage is under PCTFREE but above PCTUSED *and* an insert is attempted, but rejected for this block because it would have filled the block above PCTFREE. Tanel. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Re: PL/SQL - can't accept user input - then how?

2003-11-04 Thread Saira Somani
Thank you all. Your suggestions have clarified A LOT of grey areas for me. I'm not an expert shell programmer but I can certainly get by on these suggestions! Thanks again. Saira -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Saira Somani INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This is just wrong

2003-11-04 Thread Joe Testa
Redhat recommending windoze for desktop. http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104_2-5101690.html -- Joseph S Testa Chief Technology Officer Data Management Consulting 614-791-9000 It's all about the CACHE -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Joe Testa INET: [EMAIL

Re: PCTFREE and PCTUSED

2003-11-04 Thread Paul Baumgartel
--- Mladen Gogala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] 2) When the block is taken off the free list and records are deleted, the block is not returned to the free list until the percentage of used space doesn't fall below PCTUSED. Mladen-- You did mean percentage of used space falls below

Re: This is just wrong

2003-11-04 Thread Mladen Gogala
See? I might have been onto something with that spoof. On 2003.11.04 19:19, Joe Testa wrote: Redhat recommending windoze for desktop. http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104_2-5101690.html -- Joseph S Testa Chief Technology Officer Data Management Consulting 614-791-9000 It's all about the CACHE --

Re: PCTFREE and PCTUSED

2003-11-04 Thread Maryann Atkinson
Your example block can be 60% full and not be on the free list. Once your block reaches 90% full, it is removed from the free list. So, you are implying that it can be removed from the free list based on the PCTFREE value too, right? So far I was under the impression that it can be removed

Re: PCTFREE and PCTUSED

2003-11-04 Thread Maryann Atkinson
At 06:34 PM 11/4/2003, you wrote: 1) If the free space percentage in the block falls below PCTFREE, the block is taken off the free list. Heuristically speaking, we can say that oracle does its best to keep the block PCTFREE free. So, if pctfree is 10%, oracle does its best to keep it full

Re: redhat/oracle

2003-11-04 Thread Brian Haas
Orr, Steve wrote: Ditto. (But what about OS X? :) I keep asking my boss for a powerbookG4, but he won't bite for some reason ;). I keep telling him I need one to test the development version of Oracle on OSX. I use the Ximian Evolution interface to MS Exchange. The problems are: MS Outlook rules

Re: PCTFREE and PCTUSED

2003-11-04 Thread Maryann Atkinson
At 06:34 PM 11/4/2003, you wrote: So, PCTFREE and PCTUSED are kind of like boundary values, or kind-of-like FREE SPACE IS BETWEEN PCTUSED and PCTFREE values, right? I think I should have said : USED SPACE IS BETWEEN PCTUSED and PCTFREE values, right? maa -- Please see the official

Re: PCTFREE and PCTUSED

2003-11-04 Thread Melanie Caffrey
Ummm ... Mladen? MG 1) If the free space percentage in the block falls MG below PCTFREE, , the block is MG taken off the free list. Don't you mean if the free space percentage goes *above* the value in PCTFREE? Unless I'm reading you incorrectly, don't you mean that, say, if the PCTFREE value

Re: This is just wrong

2003-11-04 Thread Jonathan Gennick
Tuesday, November 4, 2003, 7:19:25 PM, Joe Testa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: JT Redhat recommending windoze for desktop. JT http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104_2-5101690.html I find that assessment reasonable. It's no slam against Linux, just a recognition that for perhaps the vast majority of

Re: PCTFREE and PCTUSED

2003-11-04 Thread Mladen Gogala
No, I don't mean that. If the free space percentage goes above PCTFREE, that means that there is more then PCTFREE % free space in the block. Block is thus eligible for free list. If the percentage of free space falls below PCTFREE, that means that there is less then PCTFREE % of free

Re: PCTFREE and PCTUSED

2003-11-04 Thread Mladen Gogala
I did. Thanks. On 2003.11.04 19:29, Paul Baumgartel wrote: --- Mladen Gogala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] 2) When the block is taken off the free list and records are deleted, the block is not returned to the free list until the percentage of used space doesn't fall below PCTUSED. Mladen--

Re: PCTFREE and PCTUSED

2003-11-04 Thread Mladen Gogala
On 2003.11.04 19:54, Maryann Atkinson wrote: At 06:34 PM 11/4/2003, you wrote: 1) If the free space percentage in the block falls below PCTFREE, the block is taken off the free list. Heuristically speaking, we can say that oracle does its best to keep the block PCTFREE free. So, if pctfree

Re: This is just wrong

2003-11-04 Thread Mladen Gogala
Jonathan, you're a very smart guy and a very nice one as well but I cannot make sense of this clarification of yours. Would you care to explain it a bit? What confuses me is that you agree that one version of Unix (Linux) is not appropriate for a home user, but then, in the same message,

Re: PCTFREE and PCTUSED

2003-11-04 Thread Denny Koovakattu
Or due to lack of free ITL slots during inserts -- Denny Koovakattu Quoting Tanel Poder [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi! Note that a block can come off freelist also when it's usage is under PCTFREE but above PCTUSED *and* an insert is attempted, but rejected for this block because it would

Re: PCTFREE and PCTUSED

2003-11-04 Thread Melanie Caffrey
OK. I think we're essentially saying the same thing. But in two different ways. --- Mladen Gogala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I don't mean that. If the free space percentage goes above PCTFREE, that means that there is more then PCTFREE % free space in the block. Block is thus

Re: PCTFREE and PCTUSED

2003-11-04 Thread Melanie Caffrey
Uh, oh. No wonder I confused you with what I wrote Mladen. The below should read if the PCTFREE value is 10, NOT 90. See what happens when you compose emails when taking antihistamines. Don't worry. I'm not doing any storage tuning at the present moment ... :) Melanie --- Melanie Caffrey

RE: ** SQL WHERE clause order

2003-11-04 Thread Naveen, Nahata (IE10)
If the query is a part of the cursor then you can simply write the cursor query as: SELECT emp_id FROM emp WHERE dept = :dept AND salary :min_sal; and then open the cursor only if the condition "select_sen_emp_chk_first = 'Y'" evaluates to true e.g. IF select_sen_emp_chk_first =

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