RE: Sparky auth file

2003-07-15 Thread Gudmundur Bjarni Josepsson
This was solved offline by examining the setup at one of my customers' site which has the same configuration of VMS, Oracle and Perl as Barb listed. Barb changed the setting of user_dump_dest to point to the actual directory that was defined in the hotsos.auth file. For some reason the logical

OT: unix shell script question

2003-07-15 Thread Dilip
Hi List, The requirement is as follows: DBNAME=PROD ( 'DBNAME' variable contains value 'PROD' ) LINE_PROD=100 ( 'LINE_PROD' variable contains value 100 ) Now I want to echo the LINE_PROD variable using DBNAME variable. e.g echo ${LINE_${DBNAME}} should return 100. Is this possible and if

Object Types in PL/SQL

2003-07-15 Thread Stefan Jahnke
Hi list I have a problem regardint PL/SQL Object Types. According to the fine manual, it should be possible to override the default constructor (I'm on 9.2.0.3.0 Win2k). I did that, Object Type compiles without complaints: CREATE OR REPLACE TYPE tVNR AS OBJECT ( vVNR VARCHAR2(14),

Good document / Presentation on Oracle wait events meaning , expl

2003-07-15 Thread Veeraraju_Mareddi
Dear All, Please suggest me some URL for the above subject ( Good document / Presentation on Oracle wait events meaning , explanation , action to be taken .). Please do send me documents if any. Thanks a lot. Regards Rajuveera

RE: Good document / Presentation on Oracle wait events meaning , expl

2003-07-15 Thread Prem Khanna J
Raju, just have a look at http://ixora.com.au/ Jp. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Veeraraju_Mareddi Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 7:59 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Good document / Presentation on Oracle

RE: oracle last

2003-07-15 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: oracle last select name, sal from (select rownum rnum, name, sal from emp order by sal asc) where rownum 4 / ??? Raj Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com All Views expressed in this email

Re: Object Types in PL/SQL

2003-07-15 Thread rgaffuri
if im reading your code right... looks like your overriding in an anonymous block. in most OO languages overriding is done by a child class. i dont see any subclassing here? didnt they add sub-types and 'extends' to 9.2? btw, are you using object oriented design in your database? How efficient

Re: Performance problems VMS 8i

2003-07-15 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi! One of first thing I'd check when migrating from 7 to 8i, is settings for optimizer_index_* parameters. And of course, your tablesindexes should be analyzed (if not still explicitly using RBO). Tanel. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]

AW: Object Types in PL/SQL

2003-07-15 Thread Stefan Jahnke
Hi The anonnymous block at the bottom of my email is just a little test driver. Basically, I don't use subtyping here. I just override the default constructor. If I don't implement a constructor at all, I would look like this: CREATE OR REPLACE TYPE tVNR AS OBJECT ( vVNR VARCHAR2(14),

Re: OEM Repository Problem

2003-07-15 Thread Wolfgang Breitling
This is a shot in the dark, but try and delete (or rename) Oracle_Home\sysman\config\omsconfig.properties At 10:14 PM 7/14/2003 -0800, you wrote: Hi Listers, I had OEM repository on my database installed on my PC. Accidentally I dropped the database. Now I have recreated the database. But an

Re: AW: Object Types in PL/SQL

2003-07-15 Thread rgaffuri
ok then i missed it. where is the overriding taking place? I saw a base constructor.. where was the 'override'? From: Stefan Jahnke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/07/15 Tue AM 08:30:30 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: AW: Object Types in PL/SQL Hi

AW: AW: Object Types in PL/SQL

2003-07-15 Thread Stefan Jahnke
Hi The default constructor is always there, even if you don't provide one. So, if you declare and implement a constructor that has the same signature as the default constructor (simply all the attributes as IN parameters, returning SELF), you automatically override the default constructor. That

Re: Oracle security question

2003-07-15 Thread Don Yu
Ron, I have urgent question. Because I want to shutdown my database, I login as oracle and execute dbshut. But later I found that the process is very slow so I realize that I should type shutdown immediate. Then, I use control-D to stop shutdown command. And I re-execute shutdown immediate. Now

Re: AW: Object Types in PL/SQL

2003-07-15 Thread Nuno Souto
- Original Message - That is what I want to do. The object type compiles, but if I use it, PL/SQL tells me that it finds more than one constructors with that signature, which are the hidden default constructor and the one I implemented (I think). Now, that leaves me clueless, since

v$session question

2003-07-15 Thread Foelz.Frank
Hi all, anyone able to tell me, how to grant v$session select privileges to a user ? grant select on v$session to xyuser* ORA-02030: can only select from fixed tables/views Cause: The keyword FILE is required in this context. Action: Check syntax, insert keyword FILE as required,

RE: OEM Repository Problem

2003-07-15 Thread Munish Bajaj
Thanks Wolfgang, The Solution provided by u was great and has worked. Regards Munish Bajaj -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 18:00 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L This is a shot in the dark, but try and delete (or rename)

Re: OT: unix shell script question

2003-07-15 Thread Garry Gillies
Try DBNAME=PROD LINE_PROD=100 CMD=echo \$LINE_$DBNAME echo $CMD eval $CMD Dilip [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15/07/03 11:34 Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:OT: unix

RE: v$session question

2003-07-15 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: v$session question grant select on sys.v_$session to xyuser / Raj Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com All Views expressed in this email are strictly personal. QOTD: Any clod can have facts,

v$session question

2003-07-15 Thread Foelz.Frank
sorry, cut/copy/paste mismatch. I took the wrong error description. again.. anyone able to tell me, how to grant v$session select privileges to a user ? --- grant select on v$session to xyuser* ORA-02030: can

Re: Re: AW: Object Types in PL/SQL

2003-07-15 Thread rgaffuri
then the guy is correct. that is a weakness in oracle's object oriented model. in c++ and java, you can override signatures. its different then overloading. having to add an additional flag can be tedious in a large project. you might want to open a TAR on this? Id like to see what the tech

Re: v$session question

2003-07-15 Thread rgaffuri
v$session is a synonym. all the v$ are really v_$. go to dba_views... see for yourself. so grant on v_$. everyone gets nabbed by that one atleast once. From: Foelz.Frank [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/07/15 Tue AM 09:59:31 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: unix shell script question

2003-07-15 Thread Hitchman, Peter
Hi, This works in ksh: DBNAME=PROD LINE_PROD=500 OTHER=\${LINE_${DBNAME}} eval echo $OTHER Regards Pete [END] -Original Message- Sent: 15 July 2003 11:35 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi List, The requirement is as follows: DBNAME=PROD ( 'DBNAME'

RE: v$session question

2003-07-15 Thread Nigel Bishop
GRANT SELECT ON V_$SESSION TO user; Regards Nigel Bishop Snr. Oracle DBA ioko Tel DDI: +44 (0) 1904 435 458 Mobile: +44 (0) 7881 624 386 Fax: +44 (0) 1904 435 450 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ioko.com -Original Message- Sent: 15 July 2003 15:00 To: Multiple

AW: v$session question

2003-07-15 Thread Foelz.Frank
that helped, tnx a lot ! Frank -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet am: Dienstag, 15. Juli 2003 16:15 An: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Betreff: Re: v$session question v$session is a synonym. all the v$ are really v_$. go to

Re: Perl Question

2003-07-15 Thread Peter Barnett
Jared, You came to the same conclusion I did. Since this is the first perl script I have written for production I still have a lot to learn. I was thinking that I had missed something painfully obvious. Thanks for the help. Hope all is well by you. Pete --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pete,

Re: Oracle security question

2003-07-15 Thread Ron Rogers
Don, A normal shutdown will wait for all of the users to complete there work and shutdown when the users are off the system. A shutdown immediate wait for the current transactions to complete and not allow any more to start before shutting down. A shutdown abort does just that, I stops all

should you seperate indexes from tables in seperate datafiles?

2003-07-15 Thread rgaffuri
There has been alot of literature stating that you will recieve performance improvements by seperating indexes and tables across multiple I/O points. Ie... you have a tables tablespace and an index tablespace. If you put them on seperate hard drives, you will have less I/O contention. Now Im

RE: Object Types in PL/SQL

2003-07-15 Thread Pardee, Roy E
This doesn't answer your question directly, but if you aren't able to override the constructor explicitly, you can probably create a static function that creates, initializes returns a tVNR as you would like it. HTH, -Roy Roy Pardee Programmer/Analyst/DBA SWFPAC Lockheed Martin IT Extension

Re: Oracle security question

2003-07-15 Thread Arup Nanda
I'm not Ron; but I'll take a stab at this. The shutdown immediate is hanging probably because there are several transactions that are rolling back. The database is not going to close till all have rolled back completely. HTH. Arup Nanda - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of

Re: should you seperate indexes from tables in seperate datafiles?

2003-07-15 Thread Rachel Carmichael
I separate indexes and tables into different tablespaces for maintenance purposes, not for performance, as there really is no performance benefit if you are on a system with multiple users. At any given time, many users will be doing queries that read the indexes and many users will be doing

RE: should you seperate indexes from tables in seperate datafiles

2003-07-15 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
R, Some of it depends on the disk storage. I have always followed the time-proven method of organizing disks and placing indexes away from the tables they belong to. Our warehouse is using EMC external disk. What the warehouse architect did was to stripe the EMC disks in such a way that all

RE: unix shell script question

2003-07-15 Thread Stephen Lee
Something else for people who are bored: If I may ASS-U-ME that your ultimate goal is to have variables like: LINE_THIS LINE_THAT LINE_THE_OTHER_THING and you want to be able to change what is after the LINE part, if you have genuine ksh93, and you like playing around with scripting stuff, then

Bye all

2003-07-15 Thread Veeraraju_Mareddi
Dear Friends, I am going to unsubscribe from this list. It was a good journey towards learning. Thanks Rajuveera ** This email (including any attachments) is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient/s and may

RE: Oracle pricing question

2003-07-15 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
never mind, 4 seconds after I sent the e-mail I saw the items listed on a web page... sigh. Patrice. -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 11:15 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Oracle used to sell databases options as add-ons to Oracle EE. I went to the Oracle Store web site,

Oracle pricing question

2003-07-15 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
Oracle used to sell databases options as add-ons to Oracle EE. I went to the Oracle Store web site, can't find any options listed anywhere. Do Spatial, Advanced Security, and Transparent Gateways all come with the EE license now? That would be nice. : ) Patrice. -- Please see the official

RE: should you seperate indexes from tables in seperate datafiles

2003-07-15 Thread Gogala, Mladen
Actually, there is a performance benefit, but is almost negligible. Performance benefit comes from the fact that indexes are usually read by using db_file_sequential_read, which is, as I was told by 3 or 4 wise men without any gifts, a single block read. Having vast majority of I/O being short

Re: should you seperate indexes from tables in seperate datafiles?

2003-07-15 Thread Daniel Fink
I'll agree with Rachel's methodology and add another consideration. Look at separating constraint indexes (primary keys, unique, perhaps even foreign keys) from performance indexes. If you find resource constraints on backups (time/disk), you can safely ignore the performance indexes. The

Re: RE: should you seperate indexes from tables in seperate datafiles

2003-07-15 Thread rgaffuri
does anyoen disagree? Didnt this get started with the 'DBA Handbook' or was it a different text? From: Mercadante, Thomas F [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/07/15 Tue AM 11:10:05 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: should you seperate indexes from

Re: should you seperate indexes from tables in seperate datafiles?

2003-07-15 Thread Garry Gillies
It's hot here. I wish I was at the beach and I feel like a rant. oracle actually accesses indexes and tables serially Is it just me or is this blindingly obvious? You cannot access the table data until you have completed accessing the index data because the index data contains the location of

RE: should you seperate indexes from tables in seperate datafiles

2003-07-15 Thread Stephen Lee
Steroids, weight lifting, and a flattop hair cut (orange or green). After two years of this, try talking to the storage guys while holding a beer in one hand and a Polish sausage in the other. If you can manage a good belch during the conversation, even better. (Are you a visual person?)

RE: should you seperate indexes from tables in seperate datafiles

2003-07-15 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
I disagree with the concept of recovery not including some indexes because they can be rebuilt later. To me, that's like going to a gas station and only filling the tank half-way because I can get more gas later. You are saving small amounts of time up front, but will pay for it later on. I

Oracle has out-smarted me again.

2003-07-15 Thread Thomas Day
Interim Patch: 2878462 DATE:  May 7, 2003 Platform Patch for : Microsoft Windows NT   Microsoft Windows 2000   Microsoft Windows XP Product Version #  : 2.2.0.18.0 Product Patched    : UNIVERSAL INSTALLER Patch Installation

failed to archive

2003-07-15 Thread AK
I see a lot of "failed to archive " messages in alert.log . But finally the log gets archived . Is it due overloaded archiver ? this is from alert log. ARC0: Beginning to archive log# 3 seq# 87568ARC0: Failed to archive log# 3 seq# 87568ARC0: Beginning to archive log# 2 seq#

RE: Oracle pricing question

2003-07-15 Thread Gogala, Mladen
That's a big sale, something like your friendly neighborhood Dodge sale. You can get Oracle Ram, with world's most powerful V8 engine and $3000 cashback with 0.7 APR. All bells and whistles like the Spatial Option, Transparent Gateways and Advanced Networking are included. Mladen Gogala Oracle

RE: RE: should you seperate indexes from tables in seperate dataf

2003-07-15 Thread Freeman Robert - IL
For a given statements execution, running in serial, you will not find an index and a table being accessed in parallel. Thus, there is no contention, for a given statement, between the tables and indexes accessed by that statement. Thus, one could argue the merits of not needing to seperate

Re: RE: should you seperate indexes from tables in seperate datafiles

2003-07-15 Thread rgaffuri
if you keep a repository of all your indexes or have the create index statements on files in the file system.. that would solve the memory problem. oracle designer and erwin have these capabilities. in some cases would it be better to recovery without indexes first so the users will have some

Re: Oracle pricing question

2003-07-15 Thread Ron Rogers
Patrice, The listing I have 09-06-2002, has separate prices for the options you listed. Prices are for named users license and Processor license. There might be a newer price list out but I haven't found it yet. The prices I show are EE 800/40,000 Spatial 200/10,000 Advanced Security 200/10,000

Re: should you seperate indexes from tables in seperate datafiles

2003-07-15 Thread Daniel Fink
Tom, I prefer to backup the whole database, but in some situations that I have encountered, it is not possible. If you look at the ratio of backups to recoveries, the savings can be substantial. As part of the backup/recovery documentation, the scripts to rebuild (actually the physical

RE: RE: should you separate indexes from tables in separate dataf

2003-07-15 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
R, My personal theory on where this started was benchmarking. Before the Oracle Wait Interface was developed, about the only hard-core information you could get on tuning came as a result of people running benchmarks. If you benchmark a batch program by itself that uses an index to access a

Re: should you seperate indexes from tables in seperate datafiles

2003-07-15 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi! In some environments you just have to get some functions of database back online ASAP and deal with other issues (like reporting performance or not critical end users) later on. OTOH, my experience with OLTP environments has shown that if you when you lose performance indexes and try to use

Re: should you seperate indexes from tables in seperate datafiles

2003-07-15 Thread Nuno Souto
- Original Message - I must say that I haven't actually seen the benefits myself but my faith is rock solid and I'll continue to separate data from indexes. Don't want to debate faith... However, the technical side I can. ;) The practice of separating indexes and tables into

Re: should you seperate indexes from tables in seperate datafiles?

2003-07-15 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi! There's not just head movement involved, there is disk rotational latency as well, and you have to cope with it whether even if your disk reading heads are in the same place. But more importantly, as Rachel already stated, that if you got multi-user environment (as a usual Oracle environment

Re: Bye all

2003-07-15 Thread Ron Rogers
Rajuveera, I hope that you find your continuing journey as a learning experince as well. Live long and prosper. Ron mª¿ªm [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/15/03 11:10AM Dear Friends, I am going to unsubscribe from this list. It was a good journey towards learning. Thanks Rajuveera

RE: should you seperate indexes from tables in seperate datafiles?

2003-07-15 Thread Gudmundur Bjarni Josepsson
It's hot here. I wish I was at the beach and I feel like an ant. Hmmm. During an indexed query on a single table the index will be accessed, then the table, then the index,then the table, then the index,then the table then the index,then the table. Assuming you get 4 rows returned :)

RE: RE: should you seperate indexes from tables in seperate dataf

2003-07-15 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
thanks for the dis :) My experience with these types of recovery scenarios has been that the application *needs* the indexes that are being rebuilt. So user access is s slow that I should not have allowed the users back until all the indexes were rebuilt. The end result being that the

how do I test a restore of a raw device?

2003-07-15 Thread Gurelei
Hi all: I'm testing a restore of a database file (tools TS). The datafile is a raw device and I have link to that raw evice in my links directory. Im running Oracle 9203 and UNIX 5l. And the problem I ran into is as follows. If I drop the logical link , the rman restores the data as a datafile.

Re: should you seperate indexes from tables in seperate datafiles?

2003-07-15 Thread Daniel Fink
I may be way off base here, so any gurus please correct me with a gentle slap to the back of the head... Index and table access is not as simple as index entry..table row..index entry..table row..etc. I just ran a quick test (which may not be represntative and is using the primary key which

RE: failed to archive

2003-07-15 Thread Adams, Matthew (GECP, MABG, 088130)
It's due to Oracle using multiple archivers. For every one that fails, you will find an another ARCX process that was already working on it. Using sequence number 87568 from below as an example, grep for that number in the alert log and see for yourself. Matt Matt Adams - GE

Datafiles on SAN?

2003-07-15 Thread Tim Levatich
Is anyone putting datafiles on SAN storage? Success? Horror?Tell me a story. ~ Tim Levatich, Database Administrator Cornell Laboratory of Ornithology, 159 Sapsucker Woods Road, Ithaca, New York 14850 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: MicroSlop DTC

2003-07-15 Thread Jesse, Rich
Unfortunately, it's not just a problem with this product. Some Oracle products like OEM can incorrectly populate TNSNAMES.ORA for you because of course that's always the best thing to do (and isn't there another Oracle product that requires it or am I confusing that with the semi-Intelligent

Re: should you seperate indexes from tables in seperate datafiles?

2003-07-15 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi! During an indexed query on a single table the index will be accessed, then the table, then the index,then the table, then the index,then the table then the index,then the table. Actually, if you think a little more, then you see that physical IO doesn't occur like you described. If

RE: Sparky auth file

2003-07-15 Thread Jesse, Rich
Yes and no. If I remember correctly (it's been a few months now), the lock on the trace file is probably a shareable write lock (RMS). So you can read/copy the file, but not open it for write/append. Changing the requested access on the open of the file may solve this. Someone correct me if

SGA question

2003-07-15 Thread Sai Selvaganesan
hi is it possible to have a sga bigger than the rela memory available? suppose i have a 1gb ram can i start an instance with sga 2gb. does virtual memeory play a part in this memory allocation? thanks sai -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Sai

RE: SGA question

2003-07-15 Thread Igor Neyman
Don't do it. You should try to avoid paging. Igor Neyman, OCP DBA [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sai Selvaganesan Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 11:49 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L hi is it possible to have a sga bigger than the rela memory available? suppose i

RE: Datafiles on SAN?

2003-07-15 Thread Jesse, Rich
Yes. Yes. Not yet. We're VERY I/O bound on our 6-way HP K570 and an AutoRAID (see BAARF) for our ERP system running a hybrid (OLTP/reporting) 8.1.7.4 DB. We've tested an IBM FastT900, a smallish box in the SAN world, with wonderful preliminary results for us. I'm sure that the perf tuners

RE: RE: should you separate indexes from tables in separate dataf

2003-07-15 Thread rgaffuri
so there are benefits of splitting indexes and tables on different mount points in an instance used for batch loads? such as a data publication model where you ingest deltas? any data on this? From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/07/15 Tue PM 12:04:24 EDT To: Multiple

RE: should you seperate indexes from tables in seperate datafiles

2003-07-15 Thread Matthew Zito
Hrrr - as a wine-drinking, vegetarian, non-weightlifting new yawk city boy, this explains why I never fit in with the storage crowd However, to address the original idea about striping across lots of disks, etc., you have to be very careful about how you configure your storage volumes

Re: Datafiles on SAN?

2003-07-15 Thread Jose Luis Delgado
I have them... one of the things that I can tell you is that... sometimes (at least here at work) the ports switches fail and you lost your connectivity to your filesystems... it does not mean that your database goes down... just have to reassign your LUNs to another SP processor and that's

Re: SGA question

2003-07-15 Thread AK
you will end up doing swap/paging . -ak - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 9:49 AM hi is it possible to have a sga bigger than the rela memory available? suppose i have a 1gb ram can i start an

Re: Re: should you seperate indexes from tables in seperate datafiles

2003-07-15 Thread rgaffuri
why is it useful to seperate different i/o pattersn? such as multi-block reads and single block reads? From: Nuno Souto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/07/15 Tue AM 11:59:23 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: should you seperate indexes from tables in

RE: should you seperate indexes from tables in seperate datafiles?

2003-07-15 Thread Cary Millsap
The thing that occurred to me a few years ago (as a result of a test designed by Craig Shallahamer) is that what disks do gets very, very complicated when you add users. On any system busy enough to have a performance problem, the odds are usually slim that a disk is just sitting there waiting for

RE: RE: should you separate indexes from tables in separate dataf

2003-07-15 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
R, Just to avoid confusion, that wasn't what I meant by batch program benchmarking. Are you rebuilding indexes? I've seen some strong benefits when rebuilding indexes of having the index and table on separate devices. But then that is really easy for you to test. Dennis Williams DBA,

a script to list all privileges for a user heirarchically

2003-07-15 Thread Pete Finnigan
Hi everyone I just answered a post on the server newsgroup from someone who wanted to know if a privilege had been granted to a particular user including mining through all of the roles granted hierarchically to roles etc. I posted a reference to a PL/SQL script I have knocked up as an answer

RE: Datafiles on SAN?

2003-07-15 Thread Matthew Zito
Hundreds, nay, thousands put their datafiles on SAN. All love it. All would trade their children for more SAN storage. None have ever had a problem. :) Seriously, though, some huge percentage of storage being configured today is SAN and a big chunk of that is database storage. It by and

AIX 5.2 Or AIX 5.1 for Oracle 9.2 database server?

2003-07-15 Thread zhu chao
Hi, friends: There is a project that migrate a 9.0.1.3 database on linux server to 9.2.0.3 on aix/p670 server, and I have some question about this project, hope friends in the list can share your idears. 1.Shall I use AIX 5.1 or AIX 5.2? According to pagev

RE: RE: should you seperate indexes from tables in seperate datafiles

2003-07-15 Thread Rachel Carmichael
if I can still find it. :) I know Kevin did say different disks because I remember coming home from that presentation and trying to explain to my data center people why I needed something like 17 disks for my database. my apologies over the years, people have made the assumption that

Re: Datafiles on SAN?

2003-07-15 Thread zhu chao
Hi, JL: I think you need the multipathing solution for your platform. In a SAN environment, there is more devices, so more chance that device fail. So you need multiple path from host to storage. That means multipathing IO support, like Veritas DMP or Sun AP or HP pvlinks or storage specific

Re: Datafiles on SAN?

2003-07-15 Thread Joe Testa
Its all fine unless some jacka$$ starts pulling fiber cables w/o paying attention, then the paths die, databases crash, etc. joe Matthew Zito wrote: Hundreds, nay, thousands put their datafiles on SAN. All love it. All would trade their children for more SAN storage. None have ever had a

RE: should you seperate indexes from tables in seperate datafiles?

2003-07-15 Thread Luis deUrioste
I LOVE THIS LIST! A few more personalities (GAJA, ARI, IAN .) opinions added to this discussion and we could publish a paper on this thread alone. Thank you GURUS You are the ones that make monitoring this list worth more than anything ! Luis -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday,

RE: should you seperate indexes from tables in seperate datafiles

2003-07-15 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Matt Thanks so much for your posting. I especially appreciated your comment try not to be too smart. Would you consider writing a book on the topic of I/O Devices for the Oracle DBA? I would like to learn more, but don't know where to begin. Dennis Williams DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch,

Re: a script to list all privileges for a user heirarchically

2003-07-15 Thread Rachel Carmichael
nice! and very usable, as I'm trying to mine through privileges and tighten security here. thanks much! --- Pete Finnigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone I just answered a post on the server newsgroup from someone who wanted to know if a privilege had been granted to a particular user

RE: Datafiles on SAN?

2003-07-15 Thread Orr, Steve
Has any rolled their own SAN? We've got a bunch of stuff on EMC but now we're looking to build our own fibre channel SAN and replace EMC NFS with clustered file systems. (Of course Oracle is not on NFS.) Disk may be cheap but vendor SAN boxes are not. Steve Orr Bozeman, MT -Original

RE: MicroSlop DTC

2003-07-15 Thread John Kanagaraj
Jesse, You could always get around this problem by obtaining an upto date TNSNAMES.ORA on any Names-aware client using the 'namesctl dump_tnsnames' command that will create/update the tnsnames.ora with the entries from Names servers. I would suggest renaming the original tnsnames.ora _just_

Re: SGA question

2003-07-15 Thread Sai Selvaganesan
surely i will not do it. but my question is whether it is possible at all to do it. will oracle when allocating shared memory space take virtual memory into consideration or only real memory into consideration. thanks sai --- AK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you will end up doing swap/paging .

RE: RE: should you seperate indexes from tables in seperate datafiles

2003-07-15 Thread Cary Millsap
If you can't find it, you can download it again from http://www.hotsos.com/catalog. I *promise* I haven't cheated and edited the document since the date that's published on its cover. Lots of people at the time (~1992) were preaching to separate indexes and data on different disks. The OFA gave

System

2003-07-15 Thread M.Godlewski
John Kanagaraj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jesse,You could always get around this problem by obtaining an upto dateTNSNAMES.ORA on any Names-aware client using the 'namesctl dump_tnsnames'command that will create/update the tnsnames.ora with the entries from Namesservers. I would suggest renaming the

Interview Questions for a Unix Solaris System Admin

2003-07-15 Thread M.Godlewski
I've been asked to interview a system admin candidate for our Solaris shop. I've search Google and altavista, but haven't come up with any after 1999 interview questions. Does anyone have a list of interview question or a link to some? tia M Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier.

RE: Datafiles on SAN?

2003-07-15 Thread Orr, Steve
Gadzoox!! www.gadzoox.com -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 11:19 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I have them... one of the things that I can tell you is that... sometimes (at least here at work) the ports switches fail and you lost your connectivity to your

RE: Interview Questions for a Unix Solaris System Admin

2003-07-15 Thread Scott . Shafer
question #1: Do you realize that your DBA is a God, and you will obey his/her edicts without question? question #2: Are you aware of the daily offering of food/beer required to keep in your God's (DBA's) good graces? etc... Scott Shafer San Antonio, TX 210.581.6217 -Original

RE: RE: should you seperate indexes from tables in seperate datafiles

2003-07-15 Thread Rachel Carmichael
Oh I'm sure I have a copy at home, somewhere. I'm a packrat. I was an almost brand-new DBA at the time, so I was on information overload then, trying to learn Oracle and as as much as I could, all at once (you try becoming the Oracle DBA without ever having seen Oracle before!) and yes, you do

RE: MicroSlop DTC

2003-07-15 Thread Goulet, Dick
John, True, but the whole purpose is to get rid of those damned TNSNAMES.ora files in the first place. I don't know about you, but the fun to tracing why a end user can't get to the database because he has his own alias to the database buried in a TNSNAMES.ora file is a real PAIN.

Re: SGA question

2003-07-15 Thread AK
If it take only real mem in consideration why would pageing happen at all ? -ak - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 11:19 AM surely i will not do it. but my question is whether it is possible at all to do it.

RE: oracle listener (auto increment value for PK)

2003-07-15 Thread Andreas . Haunschmidt
Hi Markus! Here's a recipe that might help you (assuming your table is called MYTABLE: 1. create a sequence: CREATE SEQUENCE MYTABLE_Sequence start with 1 increment by 1 nocycle nocache; 2. create an insert trigger CREATE OR REPLACE TRIGGER MYTABLE_Insert_Trigger BEFORE INSERT ON

Re: Interview Questions for a Unix Solaris System Admin

2003-07-15 Thread Gabriel Aragon
I've been in the same situation, I had to interview the company's sysadmin, though I am not one. Here you have a few points to start your list. Regards Gabriel The candidate must provide knolwedge about (how to's): 1. Start and stop a solaris system, including several levels of boot (1,2,3,

RE: oracle listener (auto increment value for PK)

2003-07-15 Thread Andreas . Haunschmidt
Sorry I meant Hi Martin -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 8:59 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi Markus! Here's a recipe that might help you (assuming your table is called MYTABLE: 1. create a sequence: CREATE SEQUENCE MYTABLE_Sequence start with 1

RE: Interview Questions for a Unix Solaris System Admin

2003-07-15 Thread Matthew Zito
Okay, here are my favorites for senior candidates (I'm giving all my secrets away...): 1) What is an inode? Bonus: What important piece of file information is NOT stored in the inode? 2) What is priority paging and how does it work? (mildly dated, but useful if they claim to have been around for

RE: Datafiles on SAN?

2003-07-15 Thread Matthew Zito
Eh - same problem with SCSI, except SCSI cables have the neat little screws to make that harder. It's a good point, though - a SAN is a network. For proper redundancy, you need two separate fabrics (read: redundant paths from storage to host that pass through two different switches, with the

RE: Interview Questions for a Unix Solaris System Admin

2003-07-15 Thread M.Godlewski
These are nice questions. I'm not sure how I would identify if they are technical enough to handle the job though.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: question #1: Do you realize that your DBA is a God, and you will obeyhis/her edicts without question?question #2: Are you aware of the daily offering of

RE: Datafiles on SAN?

2003-07-15 Thread Matthew Zito
Well, you can run Oracle over Netapp NFS, which is far superior to EMC's Celerra (their NFS product), except in a few niche features. By the way, Netapp just released their FAS250 low-end filer - up to 1TB usable in 3U, pretty speedy, and damn cheap. Rolling your own SAN is certainly doable,

RE: Interview Questions for a Unix Solaris System Admin

2003-07-15 Thread Scott . Shafer
You only spend time on the technical stuff if they pass this round. Scott Shafer San Antonio, TX 210.581.6217 -Original Message- From: M.Godlewski [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 2:20 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Interview

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