RE: Bye...

2004-01-30 Thread nelson flores








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RE: ** field names of a ref cursor

2004-01-26 Thread nelson flores








Thats what XML is for :P



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Hi,





 I am calling a Oracle stored procedure which
has a ref cursor as a out param. I get the values. Is there a way for me to
know the field names and type of the fields being passed in the ref cursor.
Basically when the procedure sends back the ref cursor what information do I
get apart from the data. Do I get any metadata (field names types etc). This is
basically to write a calling program which I do not have to change when the ref
curor /record changes in the stored procedure.





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RE: internet secure solutions

2004-01-10 Thread nelson flores
Something important to take into account when talking about security, is
the problem with if you don't know it's happening you can't stop it...
.. 
Remember to read/analyze logs for unusual stuff (Oracle or FW logs)...
preferably with an IDS, as it makes the job of finding out whether you
have a security breach a whole lot easier.


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Hi Paula,

Paul and Steve have given some good ideas on this but also you should
lock down the database as hard as you can. Even if the database is only
accessed via the application server its data is still available from the
internet. Issues such as SQL Injection and cross site scripting can come
into play. use least privilege principles and remove all excess
privileges. There are many papers on Oracle security on my site
http://www.petefinnigan.com/orasec.htm including some very good
checklists. You will find the SANS S.C.O.R.E. and cisecurity benchmarks
linked in the checklist section of this page. Both follow the SANS step-
by-step quite closely.

Also if the server the application server is on is breached then the
database is in much bigger trouble from the DMZ than it would normally
be from the net. You need therefore to ensure that the application
server is also hardened. Have a look at the cisecurity OS benchmarks as
well as a start for hardening the OS. Encrypting the data between the
application server and database is admirable and an extra expense but
there are other issues to look at as well. As Steve said firewalls are
needed. If your application allows it data wise / operationally then it
can sometimes be better to not expose the database at all to the net but
expose a subset of data that is needed by your net based users. Do this
by replicating the relevant data to a second database and expose that to
the application server. two way replication could be needed depending on
what your application does.

anyway have a look at some of the Oracle security info on my site
http://www.petefinnigan.com/orasec.htm including SQL injection papers,
and checklists etc  - it might help you.

hth

kind regards

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RE: OT - RE: Re: Who are certified Oracle Masters?

2003-12-15 Thread nelson flores








Woooh . waiting
for ROTK here too ;)

The execs finally let Peter Jackson show
the full version in the Cinema .

See.. even in the Movie Biz, damagement
rears its ugly head ..





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certified Oracle Masters?





how scary would it be to arrive at the exam, and the
inquisitioner is dressed as Gandalf.





Right after he hands out the exam he slams his staff
to the floor and screams











NONE SHALL PASS.











I'm looking forward to the midnight showing of LOTR -
ROTK tomorrow night.





The movie is 3 hours, 42 minutes - hope the previews
are short.





Hope there aren't any emergencies on Wednesday morning
as I doubt that I'll be in before noon.











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http://www.oracle.com/education/certification/index.html?dba9i_ocm.html

Pete

Controlling developers is like herding cats.

Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook

Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than that!

Bruce Pihlamae, long-term Oracle DBA


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What were you expected to do in the final exam ?
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 how many people are actually OCMs? and those of you that are, has it
helped you in getting work?
 
  From: Richard Foote 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Date: 2003/12/12 Fri AM 07:54:26 EST
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  Hi Robert,
 
  That's all very interesting.
 
  The various press releases at the time (e.g.
  http://www.dulcian.com/PRESS%20RELEASE_OCM.htm) all suggest that the
6
best
  Oracle experts in the world were handed these prestigious
awards.
Even
the
  TUSC website only makes mention of these awards being handed to Mr
Niemiec.
 
  If he indeed actually took and passed the practical exam in person,
and
if
  obtaining OCM status is as prestigious as the marketing makes it out
to
be,
  then I would recommend Mr Niemiec perhaps promote his
hands-on
involvement
  a little more (rather than the handed hands-off bit) as this I'm
sure
all
  comes as news to many.
 
g! t;  It's actually a very brave thing to have done when you think
about
it.
It's
  a little bit like being given a brand new car as a present and
saying
oh no
  no, I want to prove I can drive it first. It's all great if you
pass
the
  driving test but if you were to fail, boy, would you look silly
holding
  those car keys ;)
 
  Did he have any such reservations ?
 
  Cheers
 
  Richard
 
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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 8:29 AM
 
 
   As I recall Rich talking about it, he did indeed take the exam.
It
was
not
   just handed to him.
  
   Robert
  
  
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   you mean niemic didnt actually have to take the test? It was
just
handed
   to
   him? who is jeremiah wilton?
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IIRC, Tanel did the OCM as well, but I suspect most of the
others on
your list aren't prepared to waste their time attending OCP
exams
and
courses just so they can get the OCM. :)
   
There were some honorary OCM's announced when the program
first
   started
(OOW2002?). From memory, Rich Niemic and Jeremiah! Wilton
are
the
only
names that spring to mind from that group.
   
Pete
   
Controlling developers is like herding cats.
   
Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook
   
Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than that!
   
Bruce Pihlamae, long-term Oracle DBA
   
   
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I know only of Pete Sharman. Who are other Oracle Certified
Masters
on
this group? I suspect Tanel to be one, as well as Steve
Adams,
Cary
Millsap,
Mogens Norgaard, Anjo Kolk, Wolfgang Breitling, Gaja V. and
Kirti
Deshpande.
Am I correct?
   
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RE: Problem with Null Valuies (grin!)

2003-12-04 Thread nelson flores
He won a British award for that one ;) It beat the Schwarzenegger quote
I think that gay marriages should be between Men and Women ...
interesting point of view. (I live in California by the way :S)


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It is not only database designers who have these problems - check out
this
extraordinary verbatim quote from a certain well known international
politician...


Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting
to
me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know
we
know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know
there
are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns -
the
ones we don't know we don't know.


Who? None other than US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.


peter
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RE: Perl / MySQL

2003-12-03 Thread nelson flores
I agree ...  the lack of SP in mysql (soon to be released in the new
version) is really not acceptable ... this is going to really help !!
Not that I use mysql or anything ... really ... honest ... :)
(oh smeg!!)


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Now we know MySQL is really ready to give Oracle some competition:

Perl Interface to MySQL
by Russell J.T. Dyer  
http://click.unixreview.email-publisher.com/maabITzaa2A6Ea2sdufb/
In the December installment in his MySQL series, Russell reviews the 
basics of building a MySQL interface with Perl.

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RE: XML Sctructure

2003-11-30 Thread nelson flores
That works fine I don't know what the problem is .. as long as you
have a unique root element, then there should be no problem. 



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More than one line of what? Do you want to try something like below?

?xml version=1.0?
!-- Exemplo de XML Endereco--
!DOCTYPE lista_endereco SYSTEM lista_endereco.dtd
lista_endereco
endereco
titulo rodolfo do Carmo Andrietta/titulo
primeironomeEriovaldo/primeironome
ultimonomeAndrietta/ultimonome
logradouroR Um/logradouro
cidadeSao Paulo/cidade
estadoSP/estado
cep01680-000/cep
/endereco
endereco
titulo rodolfo do Carmo Andrietta/titulo
primeironomeEriovaldo/primeironome
ultimonomeAndrietta/ultimonome
logradouroR Um/logradouro
cidadeSao Paulo/cidade
estadoSP/estado
cep01680-000/cep
/endereco
/lista_endereco


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Hi friend,
HI know that this forum is about Oracle, but i have a doubt and i 
think thay someone can help me .

I have the xml sctructure below.

XML :

?xml version=1.0?
!-- Exemplo de XML Endereco--
!DOCTYPE lista_endereco SYSTEM lista_endereco.dtd
lista_endereco
endereco
titulo rodolfo do Carmo Andrietta/titulo
primeironomeEriovaldo/primeironome
ultimonomeAndrietta/ultimonome
logradouroR Um/logradouro
cidadeSao Paulo/cidade
estadoSP/estado
cep01680-000/cep
/endereco
/lista_endereco


DTD

!-- lista_endereco.dtd --
!ELEMENT lista_endereco (endereco)
!ELEMENT endereco (titulo, primeironome, ultimonome, logradouro, 
cidade, estado, cep)
!ELEMENT titulo (#PCDATA)
!ELEMENT primeironome (#PCDATA)
!ELEMENT ultimonome (#PCDATA)
!ELEMENT logradouro (#PCDATA)
!ELEMENT cidade (#PCDATA)
!ELEMENT estado (#PCDATA)
!ELEMENT cep (#PCDATA)

My question is :
How can i do for use DTD and put more than 1 line in XML ?
Because like that, if i put one more line in xml it says that file is 
invalid.

Any clue ?

Thanks.
Eriovaldo


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RE: .NET, connection pooling and security .

2003-11-29 Thread nelson flores
Well ... in general it's the apps that manage the system security, and
the DB users are there to prevent the app users from doing damage, but
in general these two work in unison. 

I have not seen any decent ways of having the DB administer users
without there being a serious overhead, in terms of administration
duties, for the DBA (which is what Jared mentioned). 

I say that, given the information you provide, sticking with the two
types of roles (owner and user) is the most adequate way. 
Why would you want to change this anyway?

My 3.14159 pence worth.


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Steve,

I'm not a web developer either, but I do know that this
is a very common method of handling the database connections.

Many 2 tier apps work this way as well.  SAP for example.

Unless you have influence on the architecture and can
present a convincing argument, you best learn how to
work with it.

You don't give any details about the app either.

Are users required to authenticate?  If not, what would
be the point of requiring db accounts for them?

The number of users is important as well.

Imagine a web app that services 250k users.  Do you
really want that many users in the data dictionary?
Would you want the DDL overhead of creating/administering
that many users?

I'm considering some extremes, because there were no
details provided.

HTH

Jared


On Sat, 2003-11-29 at 19:49, Steve Perry wrote:
 I hope somebody on the list can help me out with this.
 
 All of our 3-tier apps are architected with a schema owner (owns all
objects
 used by an application) and application user (no create privs, but it
does
 have full dml privs to the schema owner objects).
 On the web side, connection pooling is setup with 10 connections
logged in
 (all as the application user).
 When users connect, the application reads some active directory keys
that
 tell if the user is a reader, dml user or admin user (all privs).
 
 I don't feel the application should be managing security and I'd like
to
 take that responsibility away.
 The 10 identical connections logged into the database bothers me too.
 
 I'd like to make it work similar to our 2-tier apps where we use
roles,
 assign them to a user and they connect individually. We don't have OID
setup
 and I imagine that would solve this. Short of that, is there any other
way
 to work around having the 10 identical connections logging in and
having the
 application maintaining security? Is there another way of assigning
the
 security?
 
 I don't have any web development experience and I thought I'd check
here
 first to see how others deal with this.  I  hope somebody else has
worked
 this out at their shop.
 
 I'm not sure if the answers will change, but it's an all M$ shop,
except for
 Oracle.
 
 Any help would be appreciated.
 Steve
 
 
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RE: how to send messages to other users

2003-11-26 Thread nelson flores
Isn't the wall utility used to send a message to everyone in Unix/Linux?
i.e 

wall This Database will Self Destruct in 5 seconds 

(although the utility has been removed from some systems due to some
security problems a.k.a root exploit)

p.d : What's Outlook Express??? ;)



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BOFH
On unix, there is a utility called init. You should log in as root and

type the following:

init 0 please log off the oracle database 

and everybody will get the message.
/BOFH

Other then that, you could use an exotic utiity called Outlook Express
to schedule a database shutdown a week in advance and put the
maintenance 
times on your internal web page.  The chosen times should be offpeak so
that the normal business can continue. When you inform everybody and
schedule 
downtime in advance, then you simply shut the database down, say, on
Saturday, 18:00
hours. In other words, your problem is organizational, not technical. If
you need to shut the
database down immediately for whatever reason there is a gadget called
a telephone.
It works like this:  every company has a person called CIO (stands for
Career Is Over).
When you need to shut down a database that is critical for business
during the working hours
then you tell your boss to call the CIO, and if he's not around, you
tell your boss/director to page 
him (they usually cary beepers). He will then either inform his peers in
the business process or 
schedule a conference call to pass the good news to the business. You
are probably going to
be on that conference call so better be prepared to argue  why is
shutting down the database 
critical or you will be in a very bad predicament. After that, no
further information is necessary. 
You just do what needs to be done. 
In other words, shutting down an important database is not a DBA
decision but a decision made
by people who manage the normal business process.  Those people are
sometimes referred to 
as management. They are the ones who make decisions and define
schedule.


On 2003.11.25 20:49, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 I need to send messages like 'system shutting down in 1 min' to all
users 
 currently login.
 How can i do this in oracle or a third party software that i can use?
users 
 are connected using web browser. Messages are send over the wan. 
 
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RE: Oracle Version 8 as read only

2003-11-26 Thread nelson flores
Darren,
Couldn't you just open the database with a user that has all the
necessary privileges revoked?

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We are in the process of upgrading our peoplesoft app, using an oracle
database of
8.0.5 to 9i.  During the upgrade we still need access to the old 8.0.5
database as readonly.

I have read all the doc's but it appears I cannot open the database as
read only.  Looks like
I could if the version was 8i.

Does anybody have any pointers on how I could accomplish this.

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RE: how to send messages to other users

2003-11-26 Thread nelson flores
I think that you're going to have to take Mladen's advice 
and send an Email to everyone 


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i can't use net send since not all users in the same local network.
i can't also wall since all users are using win98. 

do u know any 3rd party software  like winpop(forlocal network) that can

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RE: Oracle 8i installation

2003-11-24 Thread nelson flores









Or in scripts wherever you see a jre.exe,
you add a nojit to the command.



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There is a problem installing oracle
8i on P4 machines.











Copy the installation CD to the hard
disk. Search for file named symcjit.DLL and rename to symcjit.old.











Run the installation from the hard
disk.











Yechiel Adar
Mehish







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Subject: Re: Oracle
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what do you mean by JIT file??





how can i solve my
problem?







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Subject: Re: Oracle
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OOPs - It is JIT file.











Yechiel Adar
Mehish







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Subject: Re: Oracle
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First I second Mladen recommendation
to install 9.2.





IIRC there is one KIT file on the
installation disk that you need to rename for the installation to succeed.





Also you can use lsnrctl to install
the listener service.





do: lsnrctl start listener and it
will install the service for you (if the service does not exist, at least in
9i).











Yechiel Adar
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Subject: Oracle 8i
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Hi Group,











I'm trying to install
Oracle 8i in my computer(Windows 2000),after installtion it gives me this
error 





jrew.exe has generated
errors and will be close by woindows











java.exe has generated
errors and will be close by woindows 











and i can't found
listener service in services so i can't conect to the database 











can you help me ?











thanks





M.Kamal






























RE: Grid news

2003-11-13 Thread Nelson Flores

It's kind of like the SETI project... for those of you that don't know
what this is, it's a project where NASA has images that need to be
analyzed, but don't have the computing power to do it all in a
reasonable time. So they created a system where they distribute the
processing of the images over n workstations, each running a separate
part of the process. 
The main problem with this (which I noticed at my university where every
single unix workstation had the SETI app running), was the fact that it
slowed the machine down (they didn't use the nice command to only use
idle time). 

The question related to all these Grid apps is how they are going to
distribute the priorities for the jobs being done. If a general manager
needs something ASAP, then do all we lesser mortals have to suffer? 

Oh well ... food for thought.


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Oracle has announced 10 will be 10g for grid. Many of us have been
baffled
by what grid is, will it be useful in the real world, etc. Here is a
short
article on a practical grid application (non Oracle)
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104_2-5106230.html

Dennis Williams
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RE: Can I execute an exe from a stored Procedure

2003-10-07 Thread Nelson Flores
LOL ;)

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No problem! Just open any email entitled Latest security patch from
MIcrosoft and you'll execute an .exe file.

On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 18:34, Jake Johnson wrote:
 Hello,
 Is it possible to execute an exe from a stored procedure?  If so can you
please provide an exmple?
 
 Thanks
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RE: How to give permission

2003-09-12 Thread Nelson Flores
If you can't do a chmod 755 XXX, then you can´t do this ... you don't have
enough privileges...
Do a su root (if you can), or ask the owner of the files to do the chmod ...

BTW, Chmod 755 isn't enough, I think you need a 777 ... (my chmod numbers
are a little hazy)

(is this an oracle related question???)

Also, for further reading
Man chmod
Man RTM
Man man
;)

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Hallo,

anyone whom could help me with a unix command how to
give permission to delete files from a special directory?

I am trying to use chmod command but it doesnt work with chmod 755
It says permission denied then.

Thanks in advance

Roland


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RE: asp page errors, odbc drivers for Oracle

2003-09-11 Thread Nelson Flores
Do you have any more info??
If it's a variable problem, then try tracing (response.write) the global
variable locally, if it shows nothing, then that's the problem (IIS acting
childish again!!), if it does then check the connectivity by testing ODBC...


I've had no problems with either Microsoft or Oracle drivers... so I'm
guessing it's got something to do with ASP... 

If all else fails then you could use ODBCSPY (I think it's owned by a
company called Intercept now), which is an ODBC sniffer. With this you can
see if your DB calls are going through correctly.

HTH.


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I have been struggling with an asp-based IIS web application one server, it
is tarting to look like a global asp variable is not being passed down to a
local asp variable.

Has anyone ever seen this type of thing before?

I have had a number of problems with this system, I am starting to wonder
how compatible IIS asp and ODBC are with Oracle 8i.

The Microsoft tech pages on ole_DB for Oracle, ODBC driver for Oracle, are
not as up to date as I would like, looks like the last time they tested
anything against Oracle was at versions 7.3, 8.0, and 8.1.7.0.0..  

Oracle already mentioned to me that I should be using Oracle ODBC drivers,
but the 3rd party vendor is telling me to use the MS Driver for Oracle
because that is the best driver for IIS.

Do you know of any web pages or links that would provide more info on how to
configure / troubleshoot IIS and asp when connecting to Oracle?

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RE: RE: RE: DB2 has a foot in the door

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RE: OT -- Boston Globe job listings

2003-08-14 Thread Nelson Flores
 this
   definite shift here in the Minneapolis / St. Paul, MN area
  over the past
   couple of years.  Most of these companies also provide
  e-mail service that
   sends you an email when a job is posted that meets your
  specs.  So, why
   waste your time on newspaper ads that only appear every Sunday?
  
   My $0.02 worth,
  
   Ken Janusz, CPIM
  
  
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I've been keeping an eye on the Boston Globe's Oracle DBA
  job postings,
   two
years ago it wasn't uncommon to see eight or more per
  week, now I tend
  to
see one or two, or none.
   
For a while they also announced big IT job fairs, I don't
  know if they
   still
do that or how successful they now are.
   
The market has really shrunk in two years!
   
There can't be a huge glut of DBAs out there looking for
  work...  It
  must
   be
a reduction in demand because companies are not making big
  infrastructure
changes anymore.
   
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RE: PERL reference

2003-08-14 Thread Nelson Flores
O'reilly perl in a nutshell 

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Pardon me if you have already come across this, can anyone please suggest a
good book on PERL for beginners.

Thanks,

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RE: [stupid] vi question

2003-08-14 Thread Nelson Flores
Two ways
1. :s/^M//g (where the ^M is CTRL-V M)
2. dos2unix inputfile  outputfile



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Suddenly my vi editor is showing ^M at the end of each line. How do I
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RE: 9i - Dynamic SGA - SGA_MAX_SIZE

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RE: Oracle to MSSQL conversion?

2003-08-04 Thread Nelson Flores
And it takes longer to install ;)


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For once, there are many more buttons to push when configuring/tuning
Oracle instance/db (I'm not talking about GUI here -:).  And, many more
options when designing db.

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SNIP

Wolfe 

 Knowing SQL Server and moving to Oracle is going to be tough. 
 The other way round is very simple though from Oracle to SQL Server.  

Interesting, why is it more difficult to go from SQL Server to Oracle 
than the other way around?



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RE: Oracle to MSSQL conversion?

2003-07-31 Thread Nelson Flores
An SQL Server instance IS the Server... 

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I haven't heard of an SQL Server instance before... do you mean a SQL Server
server?

(this is getting a bit confusing)

Patrice.

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 Maybe now is a good time for me to ask these question since it is
 related to this thread's subject, can you say that an Oracle
 instance is
 essentially the same as a MSSQL database?  I ask this because a MSSQL
 server can support multiple databases which can be configured
 different
 ways.

But there are more things that the SQL Server database has controlled by its
instance than things it can set itself (e.g. performance parameters,
security settings, user sort space, processor affinity, connection handling
etc. etc. are all instance settings).  It's more accurate to say that an
Oracle instance is closer to a SQL Server instance than a database, but is
by no means exactly the same.  Oracle just doesn't have the concept of
multiple database support in one instance (and I mean database, not schema).
That's not necessarily a bad thing, just means they are different to SQL
Server (and DB2, Informix, Sybase and others which all have this).  I'll
stop there ... enough people on the list have heard my rant about this
before :-)

Ciao
Fuzzy
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RE: Remote DBA

2003-04-03 Thread Nelson Flores
Chris,
No i haven´t tried TightVNC... I'll go and check it out ... 
Also I forgot to mention that there is an excellent client SW that permits a
Linux/unix box to connect to a Windows 2000 Terminal Server. If anyone is
interested, go to http://www.rdesktop.org/..
Pretty impressed with it ... :)


Nelson Flores
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Nelson, have you tried the free TightVNC from http://www.tightvnc.com ?  It
has a few performance features that seem to work slightly better than the
standard VNC, especially over slower links like VPN over a 768Kb DSL.
I've been about as happy as I can be with TightVNC for my setup.


Rich

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Chris,
VNC and OpenSSH are slow and VNC is still a little unstable (IMHO), I
personally manage my windows 2000 Oracle DB with a VPN and then a Terminal
server window direct to my desktop - from there I have all the tools that I
usually have - notepad, mspaint, dir :). 
I hate to have to plug windows products, but if it were linux or unix, then
it would be a different story, seeing as though it matters little where you
are physically on a Linux/Unix box (SSH Telnet, or an XWindow Session with
the display set to your own IP)...

Anyone knows what Big Larry uses to connect to his Database? :)  

Nelson Flores 
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I do both platforms, my recommendation is OpenSSH + VNC, they work great, 
they're free, and they're available for both platforms.

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RE: Remote DBA

2003-04-03 Thread Nelson Flores
Title: RE: Remote DBA











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At 02:18 PM 4/3/2003 -0800, you wrote: 
From: Nelson Flores
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VNC and OpenSSH are slow

 
Anything cross platform isn't
going to have the same kind of optimization 
as a single platform
solution. I find them fast enough to be useable, but 
you're right terminal server on
windows is faster for windows boxes. 

However, there are limitations for what you can do in
a terminal server 
session. Those same limitations do
not appply to VNC. 

Like what ???





and VNC is still a
little unstable (IMHO), 
 
What kind of trouble did you
have, mine has been rock solid. 
 
I personally manage my
windows 2000 Oracle DB with a VPN and then a 
Terminal server window
direct to my desktop - from there I have all 
the tools that I usually
have - notepad, mspaint, dir :). 
 
That's a good solution, but
costs money for those terminal server licenses. 
My department has little or no
budget for non-critical purchases (and 
sometimes none for those either
hehe) so I have to go with the free 
option, and besides, this lets
me manage my linux stations from my win2k 
boxes and vice versa.


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RE: Remote DBA

2003-04-02 Thread Nelson Flores
Chris,
VNC and OpenSSH are slow and VNC is still a little unstable (IMHO), I
personally manage my windows 2000 Oracle DB with a VPN and then a Terminal
server window direct to my desktop - from there I have all the tools that I
usually have - notepad, mspaint, dir :). 
I hate to have to plug windows products, but if it were linux or unix, then
it would be a different story, seeing as though it matters little where you
are physically on a Linux/Unix box (SSH Telnet, or an XWindow Session with
the display set to your own IP)...

Anyone knows what Big Larry uses to connect to his Database? :)  

Nelson Flores 
Project Manager
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I do both platforms, my recommendation is OpenSSH + VNC, they work great, 
they're free, and they're available for both platforms.

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RE: dbshut script - shutdown or shutdown immediate

2003-04-02 Thread Nelson Flores
Oracle crash??? What's that :)??? Isn't that a bug in SQL Server only ?


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yeah so? are you suggesting that Oracle instance recovery can't handle
a database crash? If so, better pray your server never crashes.


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  Shutdown abort is pretty drastic, are you sure shutdown immediate
  didn't work?
 
 What is drastic about shutdown abort?
 
 Never one to opt out of a shutdown abort thread,
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RE: Problems installing Developer on XP

2003-03-23 Thread Nelson Flores
Had a similar problem myself,
Try adding the -nojit option for JRE in the installation script.
Hope this helps.


Nelson Flores
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I am trying to install Developer 6i on a Pentium 4 Xeon
The Oracle Universal Intaller has a problem and 
tries to send error report to Microsfot.

I checked Metalink and the workaround was to search for
symcjit.dll in the install directories and rename 
to symcjit.old ... did this.

Also the solution was to replace JInitiator 1.1.7
with JInitiator 1.1.8. I checked and when I installed
Oracle 9i on this machine the 1.1.8 was installed and
I do not have the 1.1.7 under c:\programs\oracle\jre

Any other ideas on what to do ???


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RE: Oracle Corp. move to India

2002-07-31 Thread Nelson Flores


does that mean 1.2 billion new DBA's ???



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Is Larry Ellison learning how to speak Hindi?

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 Heard on the BBC radio at lunch that Oracle Corp. is moving alot of
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RE: SQLServer copy table from 1 db to another

2002-05-31 Thread Nelson Flores

EXPORT the database.

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Is there a way to copy a table in 1 sqlserver db to another, similar to
Oracle's exp/imp, or create tablle as select.., etc.  It appears the only
way you can do it is thru DTS packages.


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schedule Oracle stored procedure

2002-04-19 Thread Nelson Flores
Title: schedule Oracle stored procedure





i've got the answer, for all those wanting to know, it's :
dbms_job.submit (:jobnumber,'myproc(' 'proc_parameter' '); ',
SYSDATE,'NEXT_DATE(TRUNC(SYSDATE), ' 'friday' ') + 17/24') ;

(executes a SP every friday at 5pm)


if anyone has a better solution, please let me know ...



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RE: EXTENTS?

2002-03-04 Thread Nelson Flores
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it´s the other way around... how many db blocks in an extent.
an extent is a number of contiguous data blocks ...



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Hi
If DB block size is 8k then how many extents in one db block?
Thanks
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RE: Manager decrees his data warehouse design. Help!

2002-02-27 Thread Nelson Flores
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wow ..
now my place of work seems oh so normal !! kinda boring really ... 


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Both. I was a consultant to this pharmaceutical company at the time and I
honestly liked the job that I was doing, so I stuck it out. After I got
over the initial shock of having an insane boss, I found the whole thing
amusing. Seems he didn't trust the data center with cables for some weird
reason, and after the company relieved him of his post (OH so gently), his
garage had something like $30K worth of cables in it. They didn't press
charges. But, MAN, there were some stories.


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Hi Bambi,


 I once had a manager who was a paranoid schizophrenic. 
BEEN THERE! 


A former boss from hell got very angry (there's a reason they call it mad)
because he tried to fire me and found out he couldn't. Even so, he liked
having me around because he needed me. I hung in there because the company
was paying for my masters degree at the time. Later, after I got the degree,
I left for greener pastures within the company. In the exit interview my
former boss accused me of abandonning him, congratulated me on my move, and
literally wept at my departure. He confessed he had been trying to get my
goat because he was a 20 year military man who managed by intimidation. But
he respected me because I was never intimidated, always stood my ground,
behaved as a gentleman, and served him faithfully (his words). Two years
later I saw my former boss from hell on the 6 o'clock news being put into a
police squad car and with yellow crime scene ribbons around his house. Turns
out that while he was being laid off he said things which were interpreted
as threats on the lives of certain managers. This was taken seriously and
the police confiscated all his guns. 


I guess the lesson is that eventually the truth will come out. The decision
remains with us as to whether to put up with the insanity or move on. Do you
have a high insanity tolerance level or are you just a masochist?



Steve Orr



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I once had a manager who was a paranoid schizophrenic. Very exciting, let
me tell you. But, one thing he told me in a rather roundabout paranoid way
is that the way you deal with crazy bosses who were out to get you is to
make friends with other people at your boss' level in the organization,
hopefully who report to the same person your boss does, and let them know in
a laughing kind of way what your boss wants you to do. Never be
confrontational or speak ill of your boss, because, of course, that will
wind up biting you in the ass, too. But, that way, when your boss starts
badmouthing you and blaming you for everything that goes wrong that was his
fault, you'll be insulated from having anything bad happen to you as your
friends will close ranks around you and stop your boss from making your life
a living hell.


And then he threw his coffee cup across the room, turned bright red and
started shrieking about how the VP of RD had always hated him. God, I
loved that job. Many, *MANY* wonderful stories came out of that place.


Anyway, I never thought to follow this advice, let alone share it, but, it
sounds like, in this case, you have a crazy boss, and if you stick around,
you're going to need a little safety.


Of course, posting your resume isn't a bad approach either.


HTH,
Bambi.


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I've lost patience, my temper, and I'm about to quit a job because the IT 
manager has decreed that we will have his data warehouse running within 
24 hours, and we will use his design.


1 - We are NOT to use any kind of views, not even materailzed views.
2 - we are not to do any computations, summaries or rollups
3 - we are to have everything in one table
4 - the table name and column names will be meaningful to any clerk
5 - we are not to start or snowflake designs. That's just a bunch of 
high power talk.
6 - all users will be trained to use MS Access to get at their 
data. (These are users that were just converted off from green screen 
teminals within the last 45-days, to Windows 98 with 64k