Recommended Init File for Standby

2003-07-11 Thread Kevin Lange
Evening folks;
  Does anyone happen to have any recommended init file settings for a
standby database ??

We are running Oracle 8.1.7.4 on a Solaris system.  I think that we may have
the settings on the standbys too high and are therefore wasting resources.

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RE: Recommended Init File for Standby

2003-07-11 Thread Kevin Lange
 I knew I would be providing more information.

1. Other standby databases (14).
2. Disaster Recovery.  Automatic process applying logs only.
3. Bare essentials.  When/If we have to turn to it we will replace the init
file with the production init file.

I am looking for exactly what you said.  A bare essential init file.  

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Hi Kevin,

I guess all I have is more questions:

1) What else do you have running on the server that has your standby
database?

2) What is the purpose of the standby database (disaster recovery or
reporting)?

3) If it is for disaster recovery, shouldn't the settings 
on the standby reflect the settings for your non standby database or are you
looking at handling bare essentials and not your normal capacity?

Maybe some of the answers to these questions will help answer your question
to the settings.

Bryan Rodrigues


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Evening folks;
  Does anyone happen to have any recommended init file settings for a
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We are running Oracle 8.1.7.4 on a Solaris system.  I think that we may have
the settings on the standbys too high and are therefore wasting resources.

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RE: Recommended Init File for Standby

2003-07-11 Thread Kevin Lange
Thanks Dennis.  THat is what I have been doing .   Guess I will continue.

Kevin

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Kevin
   Sounds like a trial-and-error to me. Someone else's settings probably
wouldn't help you because maybe they only have 12 standby databases. My
guess is that your objective is to minimize the memory usage. Some thoughts:
  - Try reducing the settings until the database won't run, or fails
frequently enough to be annoying (like 4031 errors).
  - Monitor how far behind production the standby lags.
  - Too much reduction may be self-defeating. For example, making
DB_BLOCK_BUFFERS too small might cause the same blocks to be continually
reloaded, increasing I/O.
This sounds like most DBA work - make a pass or two at it, then move on to
the next fire.

Dennis Williams
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 I knew I would be providing more information.

1. Other standby databases (14).
2. Disaster Recovery.  Automatic process applying logs only.
3. Bare essentials.  When/If we have to turn to it we will replace the init
file with the production init file.

I am looking for exactly what you said.  A bare essential init file.  

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Hi Kevin,

I guess all I have is more questions:

1) What else do you have running on the server that has your standby
database?

2) What is the purpose of the standby database (disaster recovery or
reporting)?

3) If it is for disaster recovery, shouldn't the settings 
on the standby reflect the settings for your non standby database or are you
looking at handling bare essentials and not your normal capacity?

Maybe some of the answers to these questions will help answer your question
to the settings.

Bryan Rodrigues


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Evening folks;
  Does anyone happen to have any recommended init file settings for a
standby database ??

We are running Oracle 8.1.7.4 on a Solaris system.  I think that we may have
the settings on the standbys too high and are therefore wasting resources.

Kevin
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RE: DECODE AND SELECT

2003-07-11 Thread Kevin Lange
 One thing you could consider is to make functions out of each of the sql
statements in the case.  Then, in your decode statement you could call the
correct function based on the value of X.  Either that or put the entire
logic into a function that has all the case statement broken down into
individual IF tests .

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Hi

I am in urgent need of backporting oracle9i pl/sql to
oracle8i.I have encountered some case satements like
this

CASE 
when x0 then (select y from deptno)
else
(select Z from emp)
end

i need to convert them to decode statements.Can
anybody tell me how to write a select statement within
decode.

regards
Hrishy


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RE: Space Remaining in Current Extent - Done

2003-05-29 Thread Kevin Lange
Thanks for everyone for responding.   I think I have enough to get as close
as I can to what was requested.

Kevin

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I'll beg/borrow  steal from John Beresniewicz's book on Oracle Built-in
Packages by O'Reilly  RevealNet to give you an answer.  Here is the script
that John provides with the book.  I use it in a somewhat different form,
but it appears to tell the truth.

DECLARE
   free_blocks   NUMBER;
BEGIN
   DBMS_OUTPUT.PUT_LINE(RPAD('TABLE NAME',30)||' FREELIST BLOCKS');

   FOR user_tables_rec IN
  (SELECT table_name 
 FROM user_tables)
   LOOP
  DBMS_SPACE.FREE_BLOCKS
 (segment_owner = USER
 ,segment_name  = user_tables_rec.table_name
 ,segment_type  = 'TABLE'
 ,freelist_group_id  = 0
 ,free_blks = free_blocks
 ,scan_limit = NULL);
  
  DBMS_OUTPUT.PUT_LINE(RPAD(user_tables_rec.table_name,30)||' '||
  TO_CHAR(free_blocks));
   END LOOP;
END;
/


Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA 

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As to what this is for .

I have a request to come up with a way to guage space remaining on an on
going basis  i.e.If I look at the space available between 2
different user transactions I will see a difference.  Most of the methods I
have seen so far either rely on Analyze or show simply the amount of space
that has been allocated to the table at this time (not the actual This is
what you have allocated and This is what you have free).

I have tried using dbms_space but it again shows (at least I interpret it
that way) the amount of space allocated , not neccessarily exactly what is
in use.

If there is an obvious v$ or x$ view out there someplace where I can get
this info, it would be great.

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Kevin - Since you haven't received any replies, here goes.
Within an extent, Oracle uses blocks. I haven't seen a way to find the used
space within a block. There are methods to find the number of empty blocks
underneath the high water mark. Analyze does that, but you've ruled that
out. It might help if you could explain what you are trying to accomplish. 
Other ideas are:
  - Write a program that will scan the table, read each row and count the
bytes as it reads it. This would be very accurate, but time-consuming.
  - An approximate answer could be arrived at by doing an analyze and
getting average row length. This shouldn't change much unless some operation
is performed that would alter that. Then by getting the number of rows in
the table you could get a very close estimate of the table size at any time.

Dennis Williams
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Lifetouch, Inc.
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Hey guys;
  Does anyone know where I can look to find the space remaining in an
individual extent ??  I know that you can get the freespace from
dba_free_space but that seems to be based only on unallocated extents.  I
have been asked to find out, down to the byte, how much free space is
available . on the fly (which means not only after every analyze) 

Any suggestions ??? I  am sure Oracle has a table with the information
somewhere .

Thanks

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Space Remaining in Current Extent

2003-05-27 Thread Kevin Lange
Hey guys;
  Does anyone know where I can look to find the space remaining in an
individual extent ??  I know that you can get the freespace from
dba_free_space but that seems to be based only on unallocated extents.  I
have been asked to find out, down to the byte, how much free space is
available . on the fly (which means not only after every analyze) 

Any suggestions ??? I  am sure Oracle has a table with the information
somewhere .

Thanks

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RE: Space Remaining in Current Extent

2003-05-27 Thread Kevin Lange
As to what this is for .

I have a request to come up with a way to guage space remaining on an on
going basis  i.e.If I look at the space available between 2
different user transactions I will see a difference.  Most of the methods I
have seen so far either rely on Analyze or show simply the amount of space
that has been allocated to the table at this time (not the actual This is
what you have allocated and This is what you have free).

I have tried using dbms_space but it again shows (at least I interpret it
that way) the amount of space allocated , not neccessarily exactly what is
in use.

If there is an obvious v$ or x$ view out there someplace where I can get
this info, it would be great.

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Kevin - Since you haven't received any replies, here goes.
Within an extent, Oracle uses blocks. I haven't seen a way to find the used
space within a block. There are methods to find the number of empty blocks
underneath the high water mark. Analyze does that, but you've ruled that
out. It might help if you could explain what you are trying to accomplish. 
Other ideas are:
  - Write a program that will scan the table, read each row and count the
bytes as it reads it. This would be very accurate, but time-consuming.
  - An approximate answer could be arrived at by doing an analyze and
getting average row length. This shouldn't change much unless some operation
is performed that would alter that. Then by getting the number of rows in
the table you could get a very close estimate of the table size at any time.

Dennis Williams
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Lifetouch, Inc.
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Hey guys;
  Does anyone know where I can look to find the space remaining in an
individual extent ??  I know that you can get the freespace from
dba_free_space but that seems to be based only on unallocated extents.  I
have been asked to find out, down to the byte, how much free space is
available . on the fly (which means not only after every analyze) 

Any suggestions ??? I  am sure Oracle has a table with the information
somewhere .

Thanks

Kevin
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RE: sort ip addresses

2003-03-25 Thread Kevin Lange
I've had this around for a while ... and just dug it out of my scripts and
tried it again .   Works for sorting 4 octet ips.  You can always add
sections on if they are ipv6.

Ugly looking ... but it works.  Note, you can probably clean up the math a
bit ... i.e. combine plusses into +2, +3 etc.   I just never did because it
worked.

select
  ip
from iptable
orderby
  lpad(substr(ip,1,instr(ip,'.')-1),3,'0')||
  lpad(substr(ip,
instr(ip,'.')+1,(instr(ip,'.',instr(ip,'.')+1)-1)-instr(ip,'.')),3,'0')||
  lpad(substr(ip,
instr(ip,'.',instr(ip,'.')+1)+1,(instr(ip,'.',instr(ip,'.',instr(ip,'.')+1)+
1))-instr(ip,'.',instr(ip,'.')+1)-1),3,'0')||
  lpad(substr(ip, instr(ip,'.',instr(ip,'.',instr(ip,'.')+1)+1)+1),3,'0')

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Need a trick to sort ip addresses into numerical order.  I have them
stored as varchar2.  If I select without a sort I get rows
in order of their character value:

10.0.112.1
10.0.113.1
10.0.113.2
10.0.12.1
10.0.78.1

I'd like to order them numerically within the octets:

10.0.12.1
10.0.78.1
10.0.112.1
10.0.113.1
10.0.113.2
===
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RE: Quick Question -- 8.1.7 logs applied to 9.2.0 database instan

2003-03-24 Thread Kevin Lange



We 
just went 8.0.5 to 8.1.7 and the instructions explicitly said to NOT apply logs 
from the 8.0.5 on the 8.1.7. Not sure on the 
9.2.0.

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  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Quick 
  Question -- 8.1.7 logs applied to 9.2.0 database 
instance?
  Can I take a hot 
  backup of an 8.1.7 instance... and then upgrade the backup to 9.2.0 
  (upgrading data dictionary tables and everything) and then apply logs created 
  by the 8.1.7 instance to this 9.2.0 backup? 
  
  Please answer as 
  soon as possible...
  
  Thanks! 
  
  Nick Wagner
  
  
  
  


RE: Job Needed

2003-03-18 Thread Kevin Lange
I hear the job of Prime Minister in England will probably be open soon.  Any
political ambitions ?

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Greetings!

I hope Jared doesn't kick me off the list for this, but I was just layed off
this morning and am now in the need of a job. I have over 10 years of
experience with Oracle, mostly using SQL and PL/SQL as a developer, but the
last 2 years have been as a development support DBA. I am currently in
Columbus, Ohio but am willing to relocate to most places in the South-East.

I would appreciate any leads that can be thrown my way

Thanks
Kevin Toepke


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RE: Corrected SQL Question...

2003-03-13 Thread Kevin Lange
Not quite random.   Note that the value is field 1 of the first record is
the value in field 2 in the second.  It looks like they want to pair up the
cities if they appear in both columns.

i.e.   Since Dallas is in column 1 with Austin in Column 2 in one record,
and Dallas is in Column 2 with Austin in column 1 in a seperate record, they
want those records to follow each other.

Could be a cleanup effort ... duplicate but reversed data 

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Kirti,

Can you explain the required result order?  It looks random to me - or like
one of the tests we were forced to take in High School.

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


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Okay, let me do this right this time,... (Now that I have my hot tea going;)

Here is the test data: 

SQL select c1,c2 from cp;

C1  C2
--- ---
AUS DAL
AUS HOU
DAL AUS
DAL HOU
DAL LIT
DAL XYZ
HOU AUS
HOU DAL
HOU LIT
HOU XYZ
LIT DAL

C1  C2
--- ---
LIT HOU
XYZ DAL
XYZ HOU

14 rows selected.

SQL 

Here is what is required:

C1  C2
--- ---
AUS DAL
DAL AUS
AUS HOU
HOU AUS
DAL HOU
HOU DAL
DAL LIT
LIT DAL
DAL XYZ
XYZ DAL
HOU LIT
LIT HOU
HOU XYZ
XYZ HOU


I think I am clear now... 
Sorry about the wrong test data earlier... 


Thanks,

- Kirti 





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RE: BMC Patrol

2003-03-12 Thread Kevin Lange
Past history with an oracle system I worked on at my previous job.  This was
around 1997-2000.   

Patrol sucked resources like there was no end to them.

We canned it really fast.  

That was on IBM AIX and Oracle 7.3.4.

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We are in the process of implementing BMC Patrol for
monitoring our databases.  This is a good thing since
we have hundreds of database across several states. 
Monitoring from a single location with one tool makes
sense.

However, the question has arisen about the actual load
that Patrol will put on the databases.  To read
Patrol's data, there are words such as, 'negligible'
or 'minimal' but they offer no solid metrics.  In the
not too distant past, BMC's Perform and Predict
product literally consumed all of the memory on our
database machines and ground them to a halt.  It took
several weeks before BMC was able to correctly
diagnose the problem and come up with a fix.  Rather
than repeat this experience I would like to hear from
others using Patrol.  

If anyone has any hands on experience with performance
problems resulting from implementing the Patrol KMs
for Oracle, SQL Server or Sybase, I would appreciate
hearing about them.

Thanks,

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RE: Rollback Segments on 8.1.7.4

2003-03-11 Thread Kevin Lange
I will have to check your question on 'fewer sorts'.   

As far as changes to the SQL statements, there were 1 or 2 sql statements
changed in the application because they no longer worked efficiently with
the change to 8.1.7.  But, on the whole (lets say 98%+ of the time) no
changes were made.

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Did any of the rollback segment storage parameters (i.e. INITIAL, NEXT,
PCTINCREASE, MINEXTENTS, MAXEXTENTS, OPTIMAL) or the number of rollback
segments change between 8.0.5 and 8.1.7?  Changes to any of these variables
could impact the space available for storing inactive undo blocks for
read-consistency purposes.

If the answer is of course not, then here comes the harder question:  did
the SQL statements change between 8.0.5 and 8.1.7?  Not just outright
different SQL statements, but even the same SQL statements running with
different execution plans?  For example, changing explain plans so that
SORT-MERGE join is no longer use could have significant impact on ORA-01555,
as forcing sorts are one way to minimize SNAPSHOT TOO OLD.  Having queries
run faster is another way to minimize ORA-01555, so getting rid of
SORT-MERGE joins will likely help, but if the performance improvements
aren't good enough, then the conversion to HASH or NESTED LOOP joins may
allow more ORA-01555 to occur.  Have you noticed fewer sorts occurring since
8.0.5?

Just some ideas...

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 Evening;
   Has anyone noticed any difference on the way Oracle uses Rollback
Segments
 on 8.1.7.4 versus 8.0.5 ??

 Ever since upgrading to 8.1.7.4 from 8.0.5 on our Solaris servers we have
 noticed more SNAPSHOT TOO OLD errors than we used to.

 Are there any suggestions as to rollback tuning that has to be done with
 that kind of version move ??

 Any help would be appreciated.

 Thanks

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RE: Rollback Segments on 8.1.7.4

2003-03-11 Thread Kevin Lange
Dan;
  Everything remained the same on the DB except the version.  No changes
made.

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Kevin,
The ORA-01555 errors are almost certainly symptoms, not the actual 
problem. It has been a few years since I tested an 8.0.x db, but I do 
not recall seeing any changes in rollback segments from 7.3 to 8.1.
Have you converted from Dictionary to Locally managed RBS 
tablespaces? When you upgraded, did you change any of the settings, like 
OPTIMAL, for the rollback segments? Were they dropped and recreated or 
upgraded inline?

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Kevin Lange wrote:

Evening;
  Has anyone noticed any difference on the way Oracle uses Rollback
Segments
on 8.1.7.4 versus 8.0.5 ??

Ever since upgrading to 8.1.7.4 from 8.0.5 on our Solaris servers we have
noticed more SNAPSHOT TOO OLD errors than we used to.

Are there any suggestions as to rollback tuning that has to be done with
that kind of version move ??

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

Kevin
  




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Rollback Segments on 8.1.7.4

2003-03-10 Thread Kevin Lange
Evening;
  Has anyone noticed any difference on the way Oracle uses Rollback Segments
on 8.1.7.4 versus 8.0.5 ??

Ever since upgrading to 8.1.7.4 from 8.0.5 on our Solaris servers we have
noticed more SNAPSHOT TOO OLD errors than we used to.

Are there any suggestions as to rollback tuning that has to be done with
that kind of version move ??

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

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RE: nt script

2003-03-07 Thread Kevin Lange
Title: RE: nt script



If you 
just do a HELP COMMAND, where command is the name of the command you need help 
on, you can find out as much as you really need to know about 
BATCH.

In 
your sample of FOR /F 
"TOKENS=1,2*" %%A IN ('DATE/T') DO SET DATE=%%B 

They were trying to set a variable called 
DATE based on the system date.

First of all , %%A should be %A and %%B 
should be %B if you are running this command in a command line. If 
you place it in a batch file the way you have it, it will work.

First 2 values from the DATE/T command are 
placed in the variables %A and %B. Then, for each line returned in this 
command (1), you set the variable DATE equal to the second returned value 
(%B).

For example, today the DATE/T returns 'Fri 
03/07/2003". Therefore, %A gets set to FRI and %B gets set to 
03/07/2003. When your command completes, the variable DATE will be equal 
to %B or 03/07/2003.

--
This was determined by doing a help on the 
FOR command:

help for

FOR /F ["options"] %variable IN 
(file-set) DO command [command-parameters]FOR /F ["options"] %variable IN 
("string") DO command [command-parameters]FOR /F ["options"] %variable IN 
('command') DO command [command-parameters]

 or, if usebackq 
option present:

FOR /F ["options"] %variable IN 
(file-set) DO command [command-parameters]FOR /F ["options"] %variable IN 
('string') DO command [command-parameters]FOR /F ["options"] %variable IN 
(`command`) DO command [command-parameters]

 filenameset is one 
or more file names. Each file is opened, read and 
processed before going on to the next file in filenameset. 
Processing consists of reading in the file, breaking it up 
into individual lines of text and then parsing each line 
into zero or more tokens. The body of the for loop 
is then called with the variable value(s) set to the found 
token string(s). By default, /F passes the first 
blank separated token from each line of each file. Blank 
lines are skipped. You can override the default 
parsing behavior by specifying the optional "options" 
parameter. This is a quoted string which contains 
one or more keywords to specify different parsing 
options. The keywords are:

 
eol=c - specifies an 
end of line comment 
character 
(just one) 
skip=n - specifies the 
number of lines to skip at 
the 
beginning of the file. 
delims=xxx - specifies a delimiter set. This 
replaces 
the 
default delimiter set of space and 
tab. tokens=x,y,m-n - 
specifies which tokens from each line are 
to 
be passed to the for body for each 
iteration. 
This will cause additional variable names 
to 
be allocated. The m-n form is a 
range, 
specifying the mth through the nth tokens. 
If 
the last character in the tokens= string is 
an 
asterisk, then an additional variable 
is 
allocated and receives the remaining text 
on 
the line after the last token 
parsed. 
usebackq - specifies that the new 
semantics are in 
force, 
where a back quoted string is executed as 
a 
command and a single quoted string is 
a 
literal string command and allows the use 
of 
double quotes to quote file names 
in 
filenameset. 





Another Question on Authority and Security

2003-03-05 Thread Kevin Lange
Title: RE: Question related to security



Given:
 
User_A Owns procedure 'MY_PROCEDURE'.
 
User_B originally compiles procedure ''USER_A.MY_PROCEDURE", thereby 
allowing'MY_PROCEDURE" to be able to do whatever User_B 
can.
 
User_C recompiles"USER_A.MY_PROCEDURE" by issuing the "ALTER 
PROCEDUREUSER_A.MY_PROCEDURE COMPILE;" command.

Question:
Is procedure "USER_A.MY_PROCEDURE"now able to do 
whatever User C can do instead of User B ?? Or does it retain the 
authority from User_B instead.

Thanks

Kevin


RE: Big SGA.......

2003-03-04 Thread Kevin Lange



... large burlap sack and a small bat 

  -Original Message-From: Loughmiller, Greg 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 
  7:39 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  RE: Big SGA...
  duct 
  tape
  
-Original Message-From: Tim Gorman 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 5:10 
PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: 
Big SGA...
Sybase, Schmybase, Oracle, Schmoracle -- the 
concepts are still the same. Developers create tables and indexes and 
then write SQL, thinking that the RDBMS is at fault if performance doesn't 
match expectations.

They have to understand that the structures 
they have created or the queries they have written may simply be 
inefficient, expending too much work. I don't know how to measure that 
in Sybase, but I'm reasonably sure that there must be a way.

I used to joke that I could get 
OracleERP/Appsto run on a Palm Pilot if I were permitted to 
reallytune the SQL. The work performed by an application is not 
an immutable monolith, especially with the Oracle RDBMS and all of the 
performance statistics it keeps. It is very much susceptible to 
improvement.

First, they must make a reasonable attempt to 
*fix* the problem (by making SQL more efficient). If that doesn't 
work, thenthey should*accomodate* the problem by buying more 
hardware, increasing buffer sizes, etc. The key with the latter 
approachis to realize that you haven't fixed anything, only 
accomodated it by throwing resources at it.

Pop quiz: Think of a parent with a 
spoiled child who is making a scene in public. How do you quiet the 
child? :-)

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
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  To: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-L 
  Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 2:28 
  PM
  Subject: RE: Big SGA...
  
  one little piece of information..(considered 
  critical probably:-) )
  
  There isn't an opportunity to use statspack... 
  The current application is running on sybase:-)
  
  I do have other teams researching the questions 
  you mention. its a real fun project...
  
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 2:02 
PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
Re: Big SGA...
Please start using STATSPACK now to gather 
and keep statistics. You are certainly going to need "before" and 
"after" statistics to analyze.

Some questions:

  Why does the development group think that 
  I/O is the problem? Have they been gathering data? Have 
  you seen it? Do you concur that their data proves that I/O is a 
  performance problem belonging to the Oracle database? 
  Let's assume that there is an I/O 
  problem. There are two ways to address I/O (as stated in the 
  YAPP report of www.oraperf.com): reduce the 
  *cost* per I/O request or reduce the *number* of I/O requests. 
  The former implies getting a better/faster I/O subsystem, 
  redistributing I/O load to different volumes, etc. Not 
  trivial. The latter implies improving the Buffer Cache Hit Ratio 
  (BCHR) by increasing the size of the Buffer Cache or it implies making 
  queries more efficient, so that they simply don't issue so many I/O 
  requests (either to the Buffer Cache or to the disk).
Gathering STATSPACK data and searching for 
the SQL statements generating the largest number of "physical I/O" 
requests might be illuminating for the developers. If you work 
with them on a one-by-one basis on tuning each of these SQL statements, 
you might see dramatic improvements in performance.

Suggest to them that *after* you are 
confident that there are no tunable SQL statements, then you might 
consider increasing the size of the Buffer Cache.Doing 
sois a last resort, not a first response. This is because 
doing so does not fix the real problem, it only accomodates the real 
problem, which is inefficient SQL.

Hope this helps...

-Tim

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Loughmiller, Greg 
  
  To: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-L 
  Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 
  10:59 AM
  Subject: Big SGA...
  
  hey 
  folks.. Hoping for a little feedback and opinion 
  please. Having a discussion with the development group 
  ...
  
  The 
  development group is thinking that a VERY LARGE SGA would solve some 

RE: db create with DBCA and scripts

2003-03-03 Thread Kevin Lange
I did the same thing last night to an 8.1.7.4 DB and the Default Tablespace
for SYSTEM was TOOLS but the Default Tablespace for SYS was SYSTEM  this
is the way I would hope it would run on 9.2 as well.

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List,

Has anybody noticed this behavior:

When you create a db with the DBCA in 9iRel2 for unix it does:

usernamedefaulttemporary
_
sys system   temp
system   system   temp

but if you do it manually;

username   default temporary
_
systools   temp
system  toolstemp


is there any other behavior during manual creation I should be aware of?

thanks,

David Ehresmann 

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RE: AIX question

2003-02-21 Thread Kevin Lange
Title: AIX question



Lisa;
 
Here is a set of 3 scripts that I used to map our disks on an IBM S70a with a 
large SSA Disk set that used the AIX Logical Disk Manager. You might be 
able to glean all the commands from the scripts  or just use them yourself 
if they work on your system. The get_info.sh script calls the procedure 
that the included sql script creates. A sample output is in the info.dat 
file.

Any 
questions, contact me off list .

Kevin



  -Original Message-From: Koivu, Lisa 
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  AIX question
  AIX 4.3.3 Can 
  anyone tell me if there's a command to determine what volumes/disks are on 
  each controller? 
  I'm way out of my element here but the SA for this 
  system is scarce. 
  Thanks for any suggestions, and have a great 
  weekend everyone 
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diskinfo.sh
Description: Binary data


get_info.sh
Description: Binary data


info.sh
Description: Binary data


mount_points.sql
Description: Binary data


info.dat
Description: Binary data


RE: AIX question

2003-02-21 Thread Kevin Lange
Smitty was indeed a wonderful interface.   I believe it is the F6 key you
hit to display the command.

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And, though I'm not sure if you need root to run it, I remember smitty
was a wonderful little menu-driven tool for finding such information. 
And you hit a key combo that would show you the actual command for
future reference.  

You'll have to forgive the vagueness, it's been quite some time since I
had to use AIX. (Ah, the party we had when they took that RS6000 out of
here)

-Candi



On Fri, 2003-02-21 at 13:39, Gene Sais wrote:
 Everything in IBM land is 'ls...' something.  I think lscfg should give
 you more info, not sure of all the switches.
 Gene
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/21/03 12:19PM 
 
 
 AIX 4.3.3 
 Can anyone tell me if there's a command to determine what volumes/disks
 are on each controller? 
 
 I'm way out of my element here but the SA for this system is scarce. 
 
 Thanks for any suggestions, and have a great weekend everyone 
 
 Lisa Koivu 
 Oracle Database Administrator 
 Fairfield Resorts, Inc. 
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RE: GRRRRR OWS

2003-02-19 Thread Kevin Lange
Title: Message



I had 
a meeting once with the VP in charge of support for the south when I worked for 
my last job in Texas. We had been having major support problems with 
Oracle and were tired of paying such high prices for crap.

One of 
the things he told me was that you can always tell them that you want to speak 
directly with the next tier of support  i.e. skip the first tier all 
together and go to the more knowledgeable ones. When you ask, they are 
supposed to hand you off to the next group.

I 
tried it a couple times and it actually worked.. of course, that was back in 
'97. They may have changed policies by now.

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  GR OWS
  Yes, 
  in general since they moved most support to India, you get analysts that are 
  more interested in playing the blame game than solving problems. 
  Sigh, I miss the Aussies. I sometimes used to wait to submit a TAR 
  until they were on shift just because I got better. faster solutions. I 
  find that I generally know more about what's going on than the new first tier 
  support people.
  
  Allan
  

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Are these people at Oracle Support always this 
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permissions to the listener.log (which is set to full control) but keeps 
blowing errors!!!
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RE: Programming languages that make DBA's lives easier

2003-02-18 Thread Kevin Lange
My vote as well.   

If you don't know PL/SQL you are not too effective as a DBA.   Just a point
and click addict.

Knowing the shell you are in and having a utilitiy language to use while you
are in it are good additions.  Although , if you use Unix I would add AWK
and SED to that list.

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I tend to agree here.  I would say:
1. PL/SQL
2. korn shell (or sh, bash, whatever you choose).
3. Perl

These are 3 necessities.

-Scott


At 09:59 AM 2/18/03 -0800, you wrote:

You need to know PL/SQL if you're going to be effective with Oracle.

Java is interesting, but not nearly as useful to a DBA as Perl.

Jared

On Tuesday 18 February 2003 08:56, Les Ayudo wrote:
  On top of learning Oracle, which programming languages would also
benefit
  some1 learning Oracle?  Perl? Java?  How would these languages be used?


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RE: Send Mail in Unix

2003-02-13 Thread Kevin Lange
UUENCODE the file then send it as text.UUDECODE it back to a file at the
recipient.

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All,

I'm trying to send an email attachment (Oracle Tablespace Report) from a Sun
Unix box to myself when the batch job runs.

Anybody been able to do this?  I can send the text of the file, but what I
really want to do is to send the file (it's an Excel Spreadsheet).

thanks in advance.

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional

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RE: Borderline OT - Unix for Oracle at home

2003-01-30 Thread Kevin Lange



Hey 
Dan;
 
I currently am running a Sun Sparc 20 at home with oracle 8.1.7.4 and am adding 
9.0.2. I got mine off of e-bay as you were talking 
about.

The Sun software wasprety easyto load and 
configure so far. I have a DSL setup and its working just fine. I 
can even get to the DB from here at work . I am currently adding a lot of 
other features (like samba and a named daemon and such).

 
As for e-bay  there is both good and bad. First, you get what 
you pay for ... sight unseen. I ended up going back to e-bay after I 
got my sparc 20 to pick up a different motherboard (only cost me $12.50) because 
my original one was bad. Plus, I went back and got extra memory and drive 
space as well. All in all, the cost of the workstation was around 
400. Right now it has 3 processors, 500 megs memory, and about 36 gigs of 
drive space.

To cut 
it short . it was a good investment. Just took some 
time.

  -Original Message-From: Fink, Dan 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 9:14 
  AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  Borderline OT - Unix for Oracle at home
  I am looking to 
  add a unix box to my collection of wintel machines at home. It will be used 
  solely for running/testing Oracle, so I don't need bells  whistles. My 
  thoughts are either Linux/intel or Sun Ultra workstation. While it would be 
  convenient to be able to network it into a DSL configuration, it is not 
  essential. My original thought was a Linux desktop, but I can also get Ultra 5 
  or 10 workstations on ebay for less than $500.
  
  Anyone having 
  experience good/bad/ugly for this type of task? All tips, challenges, things 
  to consider are greatly appreciated.
  
  Dan 
  Fink


RE: Borderline OT - Unix for Oracle at home

2003-01-30 Thread Kevin Lange



Definitely use SUN equipment if you use Solaris. Way too many 
questions and problems on the Solaris message boards related to getting Intel 
hardware to work right with solaris. Ugly.

  -Original Message-From: Richard Ji 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, January 30, 
  2003 11:01 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Borderline OT - Unix for Oracle at 
  home
  Dan
  
  I 
  personally run Linux/Oracle on all of my own test/dev boxes. But I'd 
  like to vote for Solaris/Oracle.
  I 
  would also recommand the Sun Blades, which are based on PC architectures and 
  the advantage
  is 
  it uses PC RAM and IDE hard drive, so it's cheaper than the Sun parts. 
  You can get a 2GB
  of 
  RAM from curcial for like two hundred bucks.
  
  Richard Ji
  
-Original Message-From: Fink, Dan 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:14 
AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
Borderline OT - Unix for Oracle at home
I am looking to 
add a unix box to my collection of wintel machines at home. It will be used 
solely for running/testing Oracle, so I don't need bells  whistles. My 
thoughts are either Linux/intel or Sun Ultra workstation. While it would be 
convenient to be able to network it into a DSL configuration, it is not 
essential. My original thought was a Linux desktop, but I can also get Ultra 
5 or 10 workstations on ebay for less than $500.

Anyone having 
experience good/bad/ugly for this type of task? All tips, challenges, things 
to consider are greatly appreciated.

Dan 
Fink


RE: Base conversion

2003-01-28 Thread Kevin Lange
Just happen to have this lying around


CREATE OR REPLACE function
base_x2y
  (
input   varchar2,
basein  integer,
baseout integer
  )
Return varchar2 is output varchar2(255);

  output_val  integer   := 0;

  char_valvarchar2(1)   := null;
  number_val  integer   := 0;

  input_size  integer   := 0;
  pos integer   := 0;

begin
  select length(input) into input_size from dual;
  pos := 1;
  while pos = input_size
  loop
select decode(substr(input,pos,1),'0', 0,'1', 1,'2', 2,'3', 3,'4',
4,'5', 5,
  '6', 6,'7', 7,'8', 8,'9',
9,'A',10,'B',11,
 
'C',12,'D',13,'E',14,'F',15,'G',16,'H',17,
 
'I',18,'J',19,'K',20,'L',21,'M',22,'N',23,
 
'O',24,'P',25,'Q',26,'R',27,'S',28,'T',29,
 
'U',30,'V',31,'W',32,'X',33,'Y',34,'Z',35, 0) into number_val from dual;
select (output_val + number_val * power(basein,(input_size-pos))) into
output_val from dual;
pos := pos + 1;
  end loop;
  while output_val  0
  loop
number_val := baseout * ((output_val/baseout) -
trunc(output_val/baseout));
output_val := trunc(output_val/baseout);
select decode(number_val, 0,'0', 1,'1', 2,'2', 3,'3', 4,'4', 5,'5',
  6,'6', 7,'7', 8,'8', 9,'9',10,'A',11,'B',
 12,'C',13,'D',14,'E',15,'F',16,'G',17,'H',
 18,'I',19,'J',20,'K',21,'L',22,'M',23,'N',
 24,'O',25,'P',26,'Q',27,'R',28,'S',29,'T',
 30,'U',31,'V',32,'W',33,'X',34,'Y',35,'Z',' ')
into char_val from dual;
output := char_val||output;
  end loop;
  return output;
end;
/

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For very obscure reasons (read: one of those developer decisions that you
want to use a time-machine to go back and change), we're storing some
information in base-36 (0,1,2,3...8,9,A,B,C,...,Y,Z) in a varchar field.
And you thought hexadecimal was fun :-)

Now some bright spark would like me to build some PL/SQL to do base
conversion - in the first instance from base 36 to base 10 (i.e decimal).
Has anyone done something similar in the past ... that I could  borrow or
co-opt?  As you've guessed, the deadline is yesterday :-)

Ciao
Fuzzy
:-)

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RE: strange SQL with TOAD

2003-01-14 Thread Kevin Lange
Do you have the Option, Show Rowid enabled under Options/Data Grids-Data ??

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List,
 We use TOAD as one of our database tools and I was viewing some of the
SQL statements that were processed and I can't explain the why the
statement is the way it is. 
The developer wrote Select to_char(sysdate,'mm-dd-') from dual;
in a VB application.
   We use the Oracle and MS ODBC drivers to connect to the database.
  
What I saw as the SQL statement: select
ROWID,to_char(sysdate,'mm-dd-') from dual where ROWID = :v1
Where did the select ROWID come from?
In other statements where the select written is Select table.*  ... I
see Select table.ROWID, table.*... Again, where does the ROWID come
from?
Is it a VB,/+ODBC thing that I should not be concerned with?

Any links to the info would be helpfull in understanding the query.
Thanks,
Ron
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RE: Some of you may find this useful

2003-01-10 Thread Kevin Lange
Not bad at all . but now I get to ask if there is a way to improve it
...

When running the query below, the following was returned :

INSERT INTO TEMP_TABLE (
FIELD_1, FIELD_2, FIELD3 )  VALUES (
:b1,:b2,:b3  )

What I would like to know is is there any way thru Oracle to obtain the
values for the bind variables that the query is using ??

Kevin

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Log on as SYS and run it.  I have it on my 8.1.7 DB.

Dave



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Stephane,
 My creativity has been stumulated, simulated, and mutated.
What version of Oracle are you using?
 x$kglrd ...table or view does no exist on 8.1.7 rel 3
Ron

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/10/03 05:03AM 
break on proc
column QUERY format A40 word_wrapped
select substr(KGLNAOWN || '.' || KGLNACNM, 1, 35) proc, KGLNADNM
QUERY
from x$kglrd
where KGLNAOWN != 'SYS'
order by 1, kgldepno
/

If it doesn't stimulate your creativity I can do nothing for you :-).

Regards,

Stephane Faroult
Oriole
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RE: Orawomen

2003-01-08 Thread Kevin Lange
Title: RE: Orawomen



April, 
I could tell back when I was in 8th grade that the Teaching System in Texas was 
a joke. I moved from Missouri to Texas that year andwent from 
a math class where we were doing geometry, trig, and algebra to a math class 
where they were teaching the Metric System. This was back in 
1975.
-Original Message-From: 
April Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 
2003 12:35 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Orawomen

  Be glad that you aren't in Texas. I DESPISE the 
  testing system here. I realize that to a great extent it is needed 
  (there are high school JRs who can't divide 6 by 3 and get an accurate answer) 
  but they TEACH to the TEKS (or whatever the stupid name is this year). 
  My 8 year old came home in tears because she was going to flunk 3rd grade (she 
  came home in OCTOBER telling me this) because she went fromgetting an A 
  in math to getting a Bwhen they started division.The logic 
  in stressing her out like this? "We have never taken this test before, 
  and we want to maintain our perfect school rating"... if our kids aren't 
  perfect then we aren't perfect and we will loose our status in the 
  community. She got a B... and it wasn't even on her report cardas 
  a B... just on a test... she's 8. I would hate math and school too if 
  allthat mattered to anyone was"the" test and the stellar 
  reputation of the school.
  
  Sorry... sore 
subject.
  
  LOVED logic! IfA then B, If B then C, A 
  therefore C... all dogs are animals with fur, but not all animals with 
  furare dogs!
  
  April Wells Oracle DBA Great spirits have always encountered violent 
  opposition from mediocre minds -- Albert Einstein 
  
-Original Message-From: Boivin, Patrice J 
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2003 11:55 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Orawomen
I 
don't know about you, but the first time I took a logic course it was in 
university... It seems to me it would be fun for high school students 
to take newspaper or magazine articles (Teen magazine comes to mind) and 
pull them apart to show that statement B doesn't necessarily follow from the 
previous paragraph, etc. In our logic class we had a lot of fun 
examining statements made by "pundits" in the media.

But ooops! Logic falls under philosophy, that's not teachable 
in the public system, seen as irrelevant.

Logic is done by unconscious habit by most people it seems to me, 
rarely consciously applied. So generalized statements abound, 
misperceptions spread...

My 
6 year old son has asked me at least three times now if it's OK for boys to 
play with Barbies... he doesn't have one but am thinking of purchasing him 
one for his birthday, just to see where he will go with that. My wife 
hates Barbies with a passion. But I think she hates Universal Soldiers 
more.

; 
)


Regards,

Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) 


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  ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Orawomen
  I will agree to some extent. But I have TRIED 
  to get my daughter on the computers, into math and science, interested in 
  anything technology... she tells me that Computers are geeky (she's 
  8). She is my militant little feminist and into sports and precision 
  jump rope... I try to explain that I work with computers. The geeky 
  logic doesn't always stick.
  
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RE: Orawomen

2003-01-08 Thread Kevin Lange
I believe its hard to stop a snowball once its rolling downhill Jared

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I think this should be moved to the OT list.

Thanks,

Jared






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The real key to this issue is not making it a GS requirement, but in 
getting parents off their butts and being parents.  I continually work 
with my kids, especially my daughters (ages 17,16,12) to be individuals 
and go for what they like and find interesting.  Forget the pop culture 
and fashion junk you see in the mags and on the tube!  I encourage them to 
be themselves and find contentment in that.  This whole Dork Factor 
thing is out of control with the 10-19 age group, especially among girls.

Rodd Holman
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Romans 1:16-17 



On Wed, 2003-01-08 at 07:54, Rachel Carmichael wrote:
Dorky rules :)

It's sad that there isn't a requirement for the science/math activities
in the Girl Scouts. The problem is that society in general doesn't show
images of science as being cool and definitely doesn't show images of
women as scientists. Or at least, not enough images.


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Dennis,
 
 I think that the article is correct that girls and teens are
 sensitive to
 the geek stigma factor.Even in our 10-year-old Girl Scout
 troop, the
 girls are already concerned about their images and not being too
 dorky.
 We have many more girls vote for activities involving animals and
 crafts
 than activities centered on math and science.   The votes are usually
 about
 8 to 1 with only one or two girls voting to do the math or science
 activities.   Pretty sad, especially considering that the Girl Scouts
 organization tries really hard to push those technical and
 math/science
 programs and make them interesting and fun.
 
 The 25% number cited in the article for women in the IT sector seems
 pretty
 close to the number that we have show up at our local Oracle User's
 Group
 meeting.   I think that the participation by women in our user's
 group has increased steadily in the last 10 years.
 
 Perhaps more women are drawn to database work than IT in general as
 it tends to be more administrative than say, programming.
 
 I'd also have to say that in many cases, being an Oracle DBA can be 
 pretty
 grueling for those with families and for women with families in
 particular.
 
 Cherie Machler
 Oracle DBA
 Gelco Information Network
 
 
 
 
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 Recently this list had a discussion of female Oracle DBAs. The
 consensus was
 that the numbers were increasing, which I view as a good thing. Here
 is an
 article with industry statistics saying that the number of women in
 IT is decreasing.
 http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/career/article.php/1564501
 Any theories?
 
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RE: ora -1002

2003-01-07 Thread Kevin Lange
I was getting that when I tried to select accros a DB Link when my Database
and my Client Code were at different levels.

In our case, Database 8.0.5 and Client Code of 8.1.7 caused a failure.   

Since we upgrade our database to 8.1.7 all is well.

What are the versions of your client code and database ??

Kevin

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HI.

Does anyone have any info regarding ora-1002 error
fetch out of sequence? All the info I've found on
the MEtalink is referring to a PL/SQL or a select for
update. All I'm doing is select  from table@dblink
and I'm getting ora-1002. I set autocommit off, but
this didn't help. Does anyone have any ideas?

thanks


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RE: strange issue with setting transaction

2003-01-03 Thread Kevin Lange
Sergei;
  Is it a simple update/insert into a single table ??  
  Does the table have any triggers on it ?
  Do you commit anywhere in the update and then do another update/insert ?

  How about showing the update/insert code you are running.

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I am running 8.1.6 on solaris 2.8.

Before running a large update, I tried to set a specific rollback
segment by:
Set transaction use rollback segment RBIG20;

The transaction runs for a while and fails with:

ORA-01555: snapshot too old: rollback segment number 29 with name R27
too
Small

Any idea?

Thank you

Sergei


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RE: SavePoint doubts

2003-01-03 Thread Kevin Lange



 
No.

  -Original Message-From: Shishir Kumar Mishra 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 1:14 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  SavePoint doubts
  Hi List,
  One dumb question I wantto ask is :
  
  Is it possible to declare Savepoint with same 
  name in different session on same database. I just want to know will 
  commit or rollback vanish savepoint with same namein other session 
  also .
  
  
  Thanks and Regards
  Shishir Kumar MishraAgni Software (P) 
  Ltd.www.agnisoft.com


RE: doubt

2003-01-02 Thread Kevin Lange




 Excuse the heresy for 
answering an SS question on this list.

When I first read that statement I was wondering 
why you would be asking a question about the Nazi SS on an Oracle List 
. then it dawned on me that you were talking about Microsoft SQL 
Server ... at which point it did not mater ... Nazi SS ... Microsoft 
... prety much the same thing.

  -Original Message-From: Grant Allen 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 9:20 
  AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
  doubt
  Excuse the heresy for answering an SS question on 
  this list.
  
  Jai, 
  you can fight with the INFORMATION_SCHEMA views, or use sp_help to see all the 
  objects for allusers(not just tables). If you looking for 
  just tables, and only for a given user, use
  
  select o.namefrom sysobjects o, sysusers u where 
  o.uid = u.uidand o.xtype = 'U'and u.name = 
  'yourusernamehere'
  
  (obviously change the yourusernamehere bit to the 
  username desired). You might want to try the usenet 
  comp.databases.ms-sqlserver group for more info.
  
  Ciao
  Fuzzy
  
  (yech ... I'm sorry, the MS brainwashing must be 
  stronger than I thought ... I have this irresistible urge to clap my hands and 
  sway back and forth with a moronic grin on my face after thinking of SQL 
  Server. Can anyone suggest a therapist? :-) :-) :-) 
  ).
  
  
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ORACLE-LSubject: doubtDear all, 
   
we use 
"select * from tab" to list all objects in a particular user in 
oracle. could you tell me the equivalent 
query in sql server ?  Regards Jai 



RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-02 Thread Kevin Lange
Lighten up Frances 

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Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 10:46 AM
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Although I hate to make my first submission to The List in 2003 as
negative one, I would still like to suggest that text messages have no
place in a forum such as this.  Quite apart from being needless, such a
message format shows a total lack of respect for the recipient and a
distinct arrogance towards technology by trying to interchange a message
format between totally
different media.

Even if the message in question was indeed in an acceptable format, the
content clearly shows that no effort has been made to do any research on
the subject matter.

I have a deep affection and respect for this List and how there is such
readily available help from it.  So OraCop, I would say that you
should
try a more considered approach and you may be pleasantly surprised.


 
-Original Message-
WILLIAMS
Sent: 02 January 2003 15:30
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Raj - I go through episodes where I get pretty frustrated with the
cryptic
language, but then I take a deep breath and remember that for some
people
English isn't their first language. Also, I think text messages on cell
phones are changing the way many people deal with English. 
I also get irritated with people who won't post their names. It is
hard
to reply to an anonymous person. But then I recall that I previously
worked
for a company that wouldn't let me post to newsgroups. It would be
easier if
people would pick a nom de plume that was more human, like Joe Smith.


Dennis Williams 
DBA, 40%OCP 
Lifetouch, Inc. 
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As far as we know there is no bandwidth limit on this list and problems
can
be understood better if you state them in a lucid and clear language. I
had
to really read twice (sorry haven't had my Great One yet) to
understand
the abbreviations.

Am I the only one or is there anyone else who has trouble with such
language? 
TIA 
Raj 
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Jared what exactly U use Veritas Netbackup fr in Ur backup strategy. I
use
rman to take backup on disk. Please describe the role of veritas NB in
detail and

if u can send me example script to perform what tasks, that would be
gr8. 
OraCop 

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RE: ORA-1410 Silliness

2002-12-31 Thread Kevin Lange
Title: ORA-1410 Silliness



How 
about posting the table structure and the lines around 1970 in the Elvis 
package.

  -Original Message-From: Koivu, Lisa 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 
  9:04 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  RE: ORA-1410 Silliness
  Nope... nothing named rowid.
  
-Original Message-From: Orr, Steve 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 9:29 
AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
ORA-1410 Silliness
Is 
there a column with a datatype of rowid?

  -Original Message-From: Koivu, Lisa 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 
  2002 6:44 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: ORA-1410 Silliness
  Hello all, 
  8.1.7, Windows 2000 SP2 
  Here's the error: * ERROR at line 1: 
  ORA-01001: invalid cursor ORA-06512: at "ELVIS.CLEANUP_VEGAS_PK", line 1970 
  ORA-01410: invalid ROWID ORA-06512: at line 1 
  Has anyone seen this error before? I run 
  into this error periodically during data loads. I have done the 
  following to search for the root of the problem:
  1. No code references ROWID. 
  Deletes are never applied to this table. 2. No inline views in any of the code. 3. Ran dbv on all datafiles while database was 
  down. No problems identified. 4. Ran analyze table table name validate structure 
  cascade on all recent partitions. No rows found in INVALID_ROWS 
  table. 
  5. Was able to export the entire table 
  without any problem. 
  I can't easily drop the indexes and recreate 
  them. This is a very large table - ~25GB, 38 million rows. I 
  also can't easily export/drop/recreate/import.
  Usually when this happens I can re-fire the 
  load and it will complete, no problem. It's a big annoyance and it 
  seems like every time I take a day off it happens. 
  Any ideas, suggestions, or thoughts are 
  appreciated. Thanks everyone. 
  Lisa Koivu Oracle Dorkbase Administrator Fairfield Resorts, Inc. 5259 
  Coconut Creek Parkway Ft. Lauderdale, 
  FL, USA 33063 



RE: ORA-1410 Silliness

2002-12-31 Thread Kevin Lange
,fac_code,owner_last_name,owner_first_name,owner_address1,owner_address2,owner_city,owner_state,owner_zip,net_purchase_price,original_down_payment,total_down_payment,cr_bal,interest_rate,first_payment_date,qualification_code,payment_amount,payment_frequency,aging_10_to_30_days_due,aging_31_to_60_days_due,aging_61_to_90_days_due,assigned_loan_admin_rep,date_of_sale,status_of_account,contract_type,was_pender,credit_life_on_contract,document_status_code,fixed_week_sale,udi_sale,phase_number,fairshare_plus_member,points_owned,deed_date,pre_auth_draft_account,reservation_code,international_code,unit_phase_completion_code,aging_0_to_90_days_due,aging_91_to_120_days_due,aging_121_to_150_days_due,aging_151_over,lot_location,payments_made,suppression_code,accrued_interest_bal,pac_freeze_code,credit_card_freeze_code,association_number,rfs_assignment_date,override_maint_fee_balance,reservation_pending,credit_reporting_code,cancel_deferment_reason_code,equity_in,date_coded_7,adjustable_rate_mortgage,number_of_pays_left,deferred_interest,deferred_principal,current_year_deferments,current_year_total_deferments,last_payment_date,next_payment_date,pac_due_date,eft_routing_number,eft_account_number,eft_manual_number,bank,status_change_date,assigned_loan_rep,credit_card_pac_account,principal_balance,cr_discount_balance,credit_life_prem_bal,rfp_pac_code,rfp_draft_code,rfp_route_number,rfp_eft_number,rfp_manual_number,rfp_bank_name,fppa_pac_code,fppa_draft_code,fppa_route_number,fppa_eft_number,fppa_manual_number,fppa_bank_name,ts_bal_due_recognized,ts_late_fee_recognized,ts_ytd_maint_fee_coll,ts_maint_fee_amount,po_birth_date,ssn,ts_location,cr_date_rec_in_deeding,area_code,phone_number,cr_refund,cr_credit_life_type,cr_qualification_date,cr_eqt_in_from_cont_no1,cr_eqt_in_from_cont_no2,cr_hc_amt1,cr_hc_amt2, 
  -- Line 1970cr_hc_post1,cr_hc_post2,cr_hc_date1,cr_hc_date2,cr_date_in_lr,cr_trade_allow,cr_title_ins_charged,cr_title_ins_collected,cr_filing_fee_charged,cr_filing_fee_collected,cr_accrued_int_bal_rsv,cr_late_fee_bal_rsv,fico_scoreFROM vegas_rawWHERE id 
  = 
  vegas_raw_rec.id;
  
  Makes no sense at all. And if you read this 
  far, don't say I didn't warn you. 
  
  
  
-Original Message-From: Kevin Lange 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 10:44 
AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
ORA-1410 Silliness
How about posting the table structure and the lines around 1970 in 
the Elvis package.

  -Original Message-From: Koivu, Lisa 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 
  2002 9:04 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: RE: ORA-1410 Silliness
  Nope... nothing named rowid.
  
-Original Message-From: Orr, Steve 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 
9:29 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-LSubject: RE: ORA-1410 Silliness
Is there a column with a datatype of rowid?

  -Original Message-From: Koivu, Lisa 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, December 
  31, 2002 6:44 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: ORA-1410 Silliness
  Hello all, 
  8.1.7, Windows 2000 SP2 
  Here's the error: * ERROR at line 
  1: ORA-01001: invalid cursor 
  ORA-06512: at "ELVIS.CLEANUP_VEGAS_PK", 
  line 1970 ORA-01410: invalid 
  ROWID ORA-06512: at line 1 
  
  Has anyone seen this error before? I 
  run into this error periodically during data loads. I have done 
  the following to search for the root of the problem:
  1. No code references ROWID. 
  Deletes are never applied to this table. 2. No inline views in any of the code. 3. Ran dbv on all datafiles while database was 
  down. No problems identified. 4. Ran analyze table table name validate 
  structure cascade on all recent partitions. No rows found in 
  INVALID_ROWS table. 
  5. Was able to export the entire 
  table without any problem. 
  I can't easily drop the indexes and 
  recreate them. This is a very large table - ~25GB, 38 million 
  rows. I also can't easily 
export/drop/recreate/import.
  Usually when this happens I can re-fire the 
  load and it will complete, no problem. It's a big annoyance and 
  it seems like every time I take a day off it happens. 

  Any ideas, suggestions, or thoughts are 
  appreciated. Thanks everyone. 
  Lisa Koivu Oracle Dorkbase Administrator Fairfield Resorts, Inc. 5259 Coconut Creek Parkway Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA 33063 
  


RE: Those Pesky Little Audit Files (ora_99999.aud)

2002-12-27 Thread Kevin Lange
Thanks.   Guess its clean-up job time.

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IIRC, these files are generated whenever someone logs in as sysdba or
internal. I don't know of any way to stop them.


--- Kevin Lange [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I thought I had these files stopped  but apparently not.
 
 Is there somone out there who can tell me how to stop the Audit files
 from
 appearing in the audit_file_dest ???   I thought if I set the
 audit_trail to
 false then these would stop as well ...   Apparently not.
 
 Anyone have an idea how to turn them off ??
 
 Thanks
 
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RE: Versioning the Database !

2002-12-27 Thread Kevin Lange
Used to use that method in a former company with our DB2 database.   We had
one DB with schemas of DBPROD, DBTEST, DBSTST, and DBRTST.   At various
testing stages we would move the objects to a different schema The
application had a variable for who owned the structure.   That way we could
be developing (DBTEST), in the development test phase (DBRTST), into user
acceptance testing (DBSTST), and into production (DBPROD) with different
versions all at the same time. 

I could see it happening with Oracle as well..but 

  why not just use different instances to house the different stages of
development.  That way you can have everything under the same schema and not
have to worry about any synonym or schema switching.

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I am in a peculiar situation where the development  design is happening in
parellel. 
It would table definitions, table data (Reference Data), View definitions,
the design itself ( LDM).

It would be a situation, where there are different schema's need to be
maintained at different stages of the project (Devlp, IT, QA, Staging).
Since these activities would be parellel versioning would help.

Hence this versioning. 

Regards
Shree


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Versioning the database ?
Take a backup of the database on a seperate tape each day !

What components of the database do you want to version ?  Table definitions
?
View definitions ? Packages/Procedures/Triggers ?
Code Objects should be versioned, but data objects
[Tables/Indexes/Sequences]
would generally not vary once the design is done, save for a few 
changes/additions/enhancements.
Hemant

At 06:28 AM 27-12-02 -0800, you wrote:
Hi,

 I want to version the Database for development, IT, QA and staging
environment.
 Can some one suggest different methods and best possible approach
to
maintain the database.

 Database is in design stage  development has partially started.
We
are using MKS for versioning.

Regards
Shree
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RE: compile errors

2002-12-26 Thread Kevin Lange
Does the compiling ID have a direct grant on the package P_MESSAGES 
If you have access to it via a grant on a role and not a direct grant, then
you will get error messages like this.Check your authorities and see if
you have a direct grant.

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List,

Can anybody tell me what is happening here.  I am constantly getting the
PLS-00201 error when I try to compile.  It is looking inside the package at
a procedure and saying the identifier must be declared.  I have gone over
metalink docs and notes. I first compile the package spec and then the
package body.  I get the following response:

SQL alter package schema.p_messages compile package;

Warning: Package altered with compilation errors.

SQL show errors
Errors for PACKAGE schema.P_MESSAGES:

LINE/COL ERROR

 -

193/5PL/SQL: Declaration ignored

197/38   PLS-00201: identifier 'HSD_TYPES.T_RETURN_CODE' must be declared

218/5PL/SQL: Declaration ignored

219/34   PLS-00201: identifier 'HSD_TYPES.T_RETURN_CODE' must be declared



SQL alter package schema.p_messages compile body;

Warning: Package Body altered with compilation errors.

SQL show errors
Errors for PACKAGE BODY schema.P_MESSAGES:

LINE/COL ERROR

 -

0/0  PL/SQL: Compilation unit analysis terminated

1/14 PLS-00905: object schema.P_MESSAGES is invalid

1/14 PLS-00304: cannot compile body of 'P_MESSAGES' without its

 specification

 

thanks,

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RE: compile errors

2002-12-26 Thread Kevin Lange
I think you do.

I would suggest that you go ahead and try it with the grant.   Should be
very easy to test out that way.



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Yes, I read that off of metalink.  I granted execute any procedure to the
user.  And still got the same error.  Do I still need a direct grant off of
that package?

thanks.

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Does the compiling ID have a direct grant on the package P_MESSAGES 
If you have access to it via a grant on a role and not a direct grant, then
you will get error messages like this.Check your authorities and see if
you have a direct grant.

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List,

Can anybody tell me what is happening here.  I am constantly getting the
PLS-00201 error when I try to compile.  It is looking inside the package at
a procedure and saying the identifier must be declared.  I have gone over
metalink docs and notes. I first compile the package spec and then the
package body.  I get the following response:

SQL alter package schema.p_messages compile package;

Warning: Package altered with compilation errors.

SQL show errors
Errors for PACKAGE schema.P_MESSAGES:

LINE/COL ERROR

 -

193/5PL/SQL: Declaration ignored

197/38   PLS-00201: identifier 'HSD_TYPES.T_RETURN_CODE' must be declared

218/5PL/SQL: Declaration ignored

219/34   PLS-00201: identifier 'HSD_TYPES.T_RETURN_CODE' must be declared



SQL alter package schema.p_messages compile body;

Warning: Package Body altered with compilation errors.

SQL show errors
Errors for PACKAGE BODY schema.P_MESSAGES:

LINE/COL ERROR

 -

0/0  PL/SQL: Compilation unit analysis terminated

1/14 PLS-00905: object schema.P_MESSAGES is invalid

1/14 PLS-00304: cannot compile body of 'P_MESSAGES' without its

 specification

 

thanks,

David Ehresmann 

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Those Pesky Little Audit Files (ora_99999.aud)

2002-12-26 Thread Kevin Lange
I thought I had these files stopped  but apparently not.

Is there somone out there who can tell me how to stop the Audit files from
appearing in the audit_file_dest ???   I thought if I set the audit_trail to
false then these would stop as well ...   Apparently not.

Anyone have an idea how to turn them off ??

Thanks

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RE: kinda OT: veritas netbackup

2002-12-19 Thread Kevin Lange



How about running a script just before the 
backup that 
 1) Reads the current log 
number.
 2) Forces a log switch.
 3) Copies the logs to a seperate 
directory.
 4) Backups up that seperate 
directory

Leave the archive directory alone. Do 
not back it up.

  -Original Message-From: JOE TESTA 
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  kinda OT: veritas netbackup
  RESEND: never saw it get posted:
  
  Can we force veritas netbackup (HPUX) to NOT backup open files?
  
  Here is the problem: while arch process is writing out archive 
  logs, the netbackup script that backs up the arch directory will write a 
  partially written log to tape, we're trying to avoid that.
  
  is our only alternative determine(out of data dictionary) how many log 
  groups we have and assuming 3, that if we take the max log seq# minus the 
  numebr of groups we have, gives us the oldest log that we can be sure is 
  complete?
  
  ie: current log is 543, we have 3 log groups, 543-3 = 540, since 
  oracle wouldnt start overwriting # 540 until it was successfully archived, 
  that we can back up, up thru log seq# 540 and can be sure # 540 is 
  complete?
  
  thanks, joe
  


RE: kinda OT: veritas netbackup

2002-12-19 Thread Kevin Lange



In that case Brian ... sorry, not going to 
be any help. Good luck.

  -Original Message-From: Spears, Brian 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 
  12:05 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  FW: kinda OT: veritas netbackup
  
  Yes, we have coded it to do 
  thisand it works
   but for many reasons.. including 
  simplicitywe want to avoid
   thissolution for 
  theentire12B enterprise solution... when it confuses
   others, and is much more vulnerable 
  for screwups with Mount point management
   and recovery.
  
  Brian Spears
  
  -Original Message-From: Kevin Lange 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 11:15 
  AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
  kinda OT: veritas netbackup
  How about running a script just before the 
  backup that 
   1) Reads the current log 
  number.
   2) Forces a log 
switch.
   3) Copies the logs to a seperate 
  directory.
   4) Backups up that seperate 
  directory
  
  Leave the archive directory alone. 
  Do not back it up.
  
-Original Message-From: JOE TESTA 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 
9:50 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-LSubject: kinda OT: veritas netbackup
RESEND: never saw it get posted:

Can we force veritas netbackup (HPUX) to NOT backup open files?

Here is the problem: while arch process is writing out archive 
logs, the netbackup script that backs up the arch directory will write a 
partially written log to tape, we're trying to avoid that.

is our only alternative determine(out of data dictionary) how many log 
groups we have and assuming 3, that if we take the max log seq# minus the 
numebr of groups we have, gives us the oldest log that we can be sure is 
complete?

ie: current log is 543, we have 3 log groups, 543-3 = 540, since 
oracle wouldnt start overwriting # 540 until it was successfully archived, 
that we can back up, up thru log seq# 540 and can be sure # 540 is 
complete?

thanks, joe



API for TNSPING

2002-12-19 Thread Kevin Lange
Does anyone happen to have a pointer to documentation on any APIs for
TNSPING that exist ??  One of our developers is putting together a page and
he would like to get the value of the 'length of time' that TNSPING returns.


Thanks

Kevin
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RE: Happy Holidays

2002-12-19 Thread Kevin Lange
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RE: Methods to get DDL

2002-12-18 Thread Kevin Lange
Bob;
  I do have a set of sqlplus scripts that we wrote for 7.3.4 that generate
DDL for objects in the database.  

So, you can write your own.   All the neccessary information is in the
catalog.

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I finally have a bit of time and was wondering what are different
methods to get DDL other than
Export rows=n
Using Quest SQL navigator
Using The Databee tool

Ideally Id like to get it from a sql plus command but Im pretty sure
that's not available. DDL dosnt seem to be available from DBA studio
either...


Im wondering what methods people are using?
I'd like a quick way to get the ddl for say... One index

Thanks in advance
bob

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RE: Sun Solaris

2002-12-16 Thread Kevin Lange
Go to this page and join the SOLARIS-L list.   

http://www.openitx.com/nav/t.asp?t=507p=607h1=507h2=571h3=607

This page has a bunch of other OS lists as well.

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List,

Does anybody know a Sun Solaris e-mail list/forum that's useful like this
one is for Oracle?

thanks, 

David Ehresmann

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RE: Help Urgent Where is Tablespace Manager??

2002-12-10 Thread Kevin Lange
Title: RE: Help Urgent Where is Tablespace Manager??



OEM 
had the tablesapce manager in it. Its called the Storage Manager 
now. Maybe that is where the mixup is ?

Run 
oemapp by itself. It will tell you which applications are loaded. If 
you have loaded it, you should see STORAGE in the list. 


If its 
been loaded , then start it up using 

oemapp 
storage

  -Original Message-From: Yechiel Adar 
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  Help Urgent Where is Tablespace Manager??
  What is the tablespace manager?
  
  When I bring up DBA studio I do not see it 
  anywhere.
  8.1.6 on NT
  
  Yechiel AdarMehish
  
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Subject: RE: Help Urgent Where is 
Tablespace Manager??

This is driving me crazy. Can't seem to find the 
tablespace manager which I used to pull up from DBA Studio - now I have a 
different version which doesn't have DBA Studio - where has it been moved or 
is there a replacement?
Help! 
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A cruel joke Jeremy! 
BTW may be you can help me out here. I am not receiving back 
any of the messages I send to the the list and I do 
not know if list is receiving my messages 
either. 
Do you know how to solve this problem? 
Thanks in advance Shaleen 
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 On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Nguyen, David M wrote: 
   How do I increase 
size of oracle data files and rollback segments and Can I   do it when database is 
online?   
Unfortunately these sizes are fixed, and based on your level of 
 license with Oracle Corp. If you need to 
increase the size of your  datafiles or rollback 
segments, you must contact your Oracle sales  
representative and request additional power units.   If you find that you run in a 
dynamic enough environment, you may wish  to 
upgrade to a more sophisticated database system such as MS SQL 
 Server or Filemaker Pro, both of which allow dynamic 
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RE: archiving redo logs

2002-12-10 Thread Kevin Lange
Title: RE: Oracle 9i installation - Basic Qs - HELP!



And 
what is the problem with having a standby DB on a different OS than the primary 
???

  -Original Message-From: Bala Regupathy 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 
  2:06 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  archiving redo logs
  Hi,
  
  How 
  can I archive redo logs automatically to a different machine ?. Standby 
  database is not an option because the target machine's OS is different from 
  the primary. 
  
  Primary db is 8.1.7.2 resides on SUN E10k with SunOS 
  5.8.
  Target server is DEC Alpha 4.0
  
  If 
  UNIX script is the only option, I appreciate if you can share it 
  here.
  
  Thanks,
  
  Bala.
  


RE: To_Number

2002-12-05 Thread Kevin Lange
Title: To_Number



I 
believe its the $ and , in the data. I got the same error until I 
did

select 
to_number(replace(replace(unit_cost,'$',''),',','')) from 
elas.qdr
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PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
To_Number

  I have a table which contains a 
  Unit_Cost varchar2(16) which contains $34,000.05. I can enter select to_number('$34,990.08','$999,999,999.99') from dual; and the results is 34990.08. However when I 
  enter select 
  to_number(unit_cost,'$999,999,999.99') from elas.qdr I get ora-01722: invalid number. 
  
  Is there any other way to do 
  this? I am trying to add a varchar2 field 
  that contains $ and commas. I thought the 
  to_number function would convert the data to a number field.
  Thanks,
  Laura


RE: To_Number

2002-12-05 Thread Kevin Lange
Title: RE: To_Number



Lisa;
 
I wonder if it depends on the DB version. I did this on an 8.0.5 and 
got the invalid number error running the exact query that succeeded on 
yours. I had to do a replace on both the commas and the dollar 
sign.

  -Original Message-From: Koivu, Lisa 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 
  1:55 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  RE: To_Number
  Laura are you sure you aren't trying 
  this with the quotes? See below 
  SQL select * from 
  testnum; 
  COL1 --- $24,990.09 
  SQL select 
  to_number('col1','$999,999,999.99') from testnum; select 
  to_number('col1','$999,999,999.99') from testnum  * 
  ERROR at line 1: ORA-01722: invalid number 
  SQL select 
  to_number(col1,'$999,999,999.99') from testnum; 
  TO_NUMBER(COL1,'$999,999,999.99') -  
  24990.09 
  Lisa Koivu Oracle Database Administrator Fairfield Resorts, Inc. 5259 
  Coconut Creek Parkway Ft. Lauderdale, FL, 
  USA 33063 
  
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I have a table which contains a Unit_Cost 
varchar2(16) which contains $34,000.05. I 
can enter 
select 
to_number('$34,990.08','$999,999,999.99') from dual; and the results 
is 34990.08. 
However when I enter select to_number(unit_cost,'$999,999,999.99') from elas.qdr I get 
ora-01722: invalid number. 
Is there any other way to do this? I am trying to add a 
varchar2 field that contains $ and commas. I thought the to_number 
function would convert the data to a number field.
Thanks, 
Laura 



RE:

2002-11-25 Thread Kevin Lange
David;
  Try the parameter 
show=Y
on the import command.   This should show you whats in the export file.

example parm file:

FILE=('expdat.dmp')
LOG=('temp.log')
FULL=Y
SHOW=Y

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List,

Is there anyway to know absolutely that a table is not in an export file?
My import bought in 6 tables, but not the seventh ( I don't think it is in
the export). The import bought in the other 544 tables!   I have queried
under the schema name, after logging in as that user:

select table_name from user_tables
where table_name like '%BATCH_%';

all other tables are there like they should be, but not the 7th table.  This
is 8.1.7 to 8.1.7. When I imp I get IMP-00033 Warning table not found in
export file.  When I test my imp statement against one of the other tables
from the export file that I know are there under the schema owner I get:
IMP-00015 object already exists.  I can't convince this guy the table is
not there.  What else can I do?

David Ehresmann. 

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RE: Ltrim?

2002-11-22 Thread Kevin Lange
The cron part is easy  but you have to make sure your Unix script works.

Next time, before you post a question ... please try looking up the answer
for yourself on any of the available sources.   In this case, the man
function of unix tells you exactly what you need to know.You should have
done a man on crontab.

00 06   *   *   5  your_unix_script

 minute (0-59),  00 = 0 minutes
 hour (0-23),  06 = 6 am
 day of the month (1-31),
 month of the year (1-12),
 day of the week (0-6 with 0=Sunday).  5 = Friday
 command name


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Hallo,
Anyone whom could help me how to write in cron when
scheduling the start of a unixprogram.

I would like that the unix script will run every monday on 6 am.

I have tried but it fails. Any suggestions, please help

Roland



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RE: Identifying indexes

2002-11-22 Thread Kevin Lange
This may not do all you need but it will list out all the indexes in
dba_indexes that do not have a corresponding entry in the dba_constraints
table.  You might have to put a few other criteria on it ... but this might
get you in the right direction.

select 
  a.owner, 
  a.index_name, 
  a.table_owner, 
  a.table_name 
from 
  dba_indexes a
 where 
  not exists (
  select '' 
  from 
dba_constraints b 
  where 
a.owner = b.owner and 
a.index_name = b.constraint_name)

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I am trying to find out what indexes are in the database only for
performance
reasons and do not enforce a constraint.  What would be the query to do
that?
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RE: Identifying indexes

2002-11-22 Thread Kevin Lange
1. Since DBA_CONSTRAINTS is already connecting to cons$ and cdef, why are
you using them in your join ?
2. Why are you joining to dba_objects ??  What purpose does it fill ?
3. Why not just join dba_indexes to dba_constraints and rule out the kind of
constraints you are not interested in ... i.e. Check Constraints ?









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I don't get it. Do a minus? Mr. Shao could you explain that please.

RWB




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The following will give you all the indexes that belongs to a constraint

 select distinct t.owner as table_owner, i.table_name, o.owner as
index_owner, o.object_name as index_name,s.name as
constraint_name,c.constraint_type  from sys.cdef$ cd,dba_objects o,sys.con
$ s,dba_constraints c,dba_indexes i,  dba_tables t Where t.Table_Name =
i.Table_Name and i.owner=o.owner  and i.index_name=o.object_name and
c.constraint_name=s.name  and cd.Enabled = o.object_id and cd.con# = s.con#
and o.owner not in ('SYS','SYSTEM')


do a minus will get what you want.


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I am trying to find out what indexes are in the database only for
performance
reasons and do not enforce a constraint.  What would be the query to do
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RE: catrepad - how tell if run

2002-11-15 Thread Kevin Lange
Why not open the script up  find an object created with that script ...
then log onto your database and see if the object is there.   ?

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How can you tell if catrepad.sql has already been run on a database?  I am
sure that catrep has already been run, but not catrepad.

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RE: Urgent : Shell Script is needed !!!!!

2002-11-14 Thread Kevin Lange
Title: Blank



Madhu
 Three years ago we wrote a system 
that would except files from an outside data system, take those files and , in a 
rotating 18 month cycle, load the data into a partitioned view  dropping the 
oldest set of data and adding the next set in its place.

Ifs 
complicated, but if you think you might be interested in looking thru it to make 
your own,I can find the SQL code and UNIX code that went with 
it.

If you would be interested, 
contact me offline at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I will 
need to take the time to find the code outside of work.

Kevin
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!

  Hello All,
  
  
  I have to do automation of 
  manual process of the following things, being not good at the Shell 
  scripting , I need your help or at least a sample script would be great
  Manual process:
  1. get the oldest partition name 
  from a partitioned table
  2. create a non-partitioned 
  table same as the oldest partition name from the partitioned table with the 
  same structure
  2. exchange the partition with 
  the newly created table 
  3. then export the new table to 
  a Unix directory.
  
  Later I have to drop the oldest partition .( For this we have a 
  procedure to take care of )
  
  Regards,
  Madhu 
Reddy


RE: AIX vs Solaris

2002-11-13 Thread Kevin Lange
Bill;
  I came from a shop that ran AIX servers and Oracle 7.3.4 to 8.1.7.  As for
the OS and Oracle, all our 7.3.4 scripts worked just fine when we were under
8.1.7 we used the k-shell exclusively as well.  I do not think you have
any problems there.

As for AIX in particular . I loved it.  It was very easy to manage and
update.  Plus, the journal file system was supurb.  We had very few crashes
on the hardware (at the time we were running an S70a with over 70 or so SSA
drives).  We did have a couple system crashes due to failed hardware ... but
when the system came back up the journals would automatically replay and our
Oracle systems would come back with no recovery neccessary.

As for maintenance  we had a contract with IBM where they were out to
our location within 24 hrs  and they were very efficient.  I remember
they Engineer staying there with us for about 48 hours as we all tried to
find the problem with the hardware (turned out to be a 25 dollar circuit on
the hot swap drive tray).  The point is  they had very good service
techs.

What I also liked on AIX was the ease at file system setup, patch
application and tracking, and overall System Administration.

(Yes , I am biased towards AIX).

At my new location we are running Solaris with a Netapp filer .  nice
combination.  The WAFL file system on the netapp is most excellent for use
with Oracle.

The bad side of AIX was always the cost.  The hardware was damn costly , the
software was damn costly, and the maintenance contract was damn costly
..  get the trend here ??

Well, there is my two cents worth.

You might go out to Suns site and get the list of features for their OS and
then go to IBMs site and get its features list and compare.

Good luck

Kevin

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Hello,

What are the major differences between AIX and Solaris regarding
operating system features?

We are planning a new machine purchase; currently we are on a Sun machine
running Solaris, but IBM is making a strong proposal to management
(meaning significantly less cost), and we are wondering what would need to
be
changed. We use korn shell scripts extensively, and features such as
crontab, background processing, the sqlplus EOF ... EOF construct (not
sure what this is called). I'm fairly sure these are standard in most
flavors of unix, but I have never had contact with AIX. Does anyone know
what features differ between the two OS's?

If we went with Solaris, we would go with Solaris 9 running Oracle 9.2
on a Sun 4800.

Thanks for any responders.

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RE: Oracle to Excel

2002-11-06 Thread Kevin Lange
Title: Oracle to Excel



Without extra software the easiest way is to setup a delimited file in a 
sql statement and spool output to a file. Then import the file into a 
spreadsheet.

If you 
have it, Toad will save data into spreadsheets for you.

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  I think I have seen traffic concerning 
  the extracting of data from Oracle into an Excel spreadsheet. We now 
  have a need for this. Could anyone enlighten me?
  Thank you in advance.
  Laura 



RE: Oracle to Excel

2002-11-06 Thread Kevin Lange
Title: Oracle to Excel



Brain 
freeze  thats the only reason I did not think of it  doh 
!

  -Original Message-From: Rodd Holman 
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  RE: Oracle to ExcelIs there a reason why you can't just 
  extract it directly in to Excel using ODBC or Oracle Objects for OLE? 
  ODBC would be the easiest, OO4OLE will give you the most control and better 
  macro scripting for auto updating. Both of these come with the Oracle 
  client install. Rodd On Wed, 2002-11-06 at 13:12, Kevin Lange 
  wrote: 
  Without extra software the 
easiest way is to setup a delimited file in a sql statement and spool output 
to a file. Then import the file into a spreadsheet. 
 If you have it, Toad will save data into 
spreadsheets for you. 
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  Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Oracle to Excel I think I have seen traffic concerning the 
  extracting of data from Oracle into an Excel spreadsheet. We now 
  have a need for this. Could anyone enlighten me? 
  Thank you in advance. 
  Laura 
  
  


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RE: RE: Oracle DBA with SAP Needed

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RE: SQL Brain Teaser Challenge

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End of Communication Channel Error

2002-11-01 Thread Kevin Lange
Hey Gang;
  Anyone here familliar with an End Of Communication Channel error every
time I try and Build a database ??

I am trying to build an 8.1.7.0 database on a Sun Sparc 20 running Solaris
9.

I have a feeling it might be settings on the box itself, but thought I would
ask the list just in case anyone had any insight.

Thanks

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RE: Error ORA-12638 Credential Retrieval Failed During DB Creatio

2002-10-25 Thread Kevin Lange
Moses;

  You can get this patch by ftp'ing to updates.oracle.com.  I already did
and saw that it was there.

Log in with your Metalink User ID and Password

Then CD to the patch number.   You can not list the patches , nothing shows
up.   Just CD to the number and then ls to see the patch.

I did this and got the following :

ftp open updates.oracle.com
Connected to ap103aru.oracle.com.
220 FTP server ready.
User (ap103aru.oracle.com:(none)): x
331 Username OK, please send password.
Password:
230-
230-   Welcome to the Oracle Patch Download FTP Server
230-
230- Access
230- --
230- Access to this system is limited to authorized users of Oracle
230- Metalink.  Unauthorized access to or use of this system is prohibited
230- and may subject you to civil and criminal prosecution.  Use of this
230- system may be monitored for the purpose of maintaining system
230- security, and system information may be accessed or disclosed under
230- limited circumstances.
230-
230- All transmissions of Oracle software, documentation, source code,
230- technical data or technology must comply with Oracle's Export
230- Compliance Corporate Policy.  For more information, refer to Oracle's
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230- Export Control Officer.
230-
230- Usage
230- -
230- To download a patch, you must know the patch number. At any time you
230- can cd patch number and then ls to find a listing of patches
230- with that number. Enter quote site help to get this welcome banner
230- and additional helpful instructions.
230-
230- Caveats
230- ---
230- - You may not list files or directories from the root directory.
230- - You must select binary transfers for this service to work.
230
ftp cd 1522966
250 Changed directory OK.
ftp ls
200 PORT command OK.
150 Opening data connection for file listing.
p1522966_8170_WINNT.zip
226 Listing complete. Data connection has been closed.
ftp: 25 bytes received in 0.00Seconds 25000.00Kbytes/sec.
ftp
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I doubt if 8.1.6 is supported on Win XP. 

- Kirti

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Hi gurus,

I just installed Oracle 8.1.6 on Windows XP successfully. However on
creation
of database using the Database Configuration Assistant, I get the error
ORA-12638 'Credential Retrieval Failed' on initialisation of database and
thereafter the process stalls.

I visited Metalink and found out that I require patch 1522966. However, this
patch cannot be found. Does any one have it?

Secondly, I am using SQLNET.AUTHENTICATION_SERVICES= (NTS) in my SQLNET.ORA
file (which is suggested as a probable fix to no avail.

Any suggestions?

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RE: Error ORA-12638 Credential Retrieval Failed During DB Creatio

2002-10-25 Thread Kevin Lange
This is an 8.17 patch, not an 8.16

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I doubt if 8.1.6 is supported on Win XP. 

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Hi gurus,

I just installed Oracle 8.1.6 on Windows XP successfully. However on
creation
of database using the Database Configuration Assistant, I get the error
ORA-12638 'Credential Retrieval Failed' on initialisation of database and
thereafter the process stalls.

I visited Metalink and found out that I require patch 1522966. However, this
patch cannot be found. Does any one have it?

Secondly, I am using SQLNET.AUTHENTICATION_SERVICES= (NTS) in my SQLNET.ORA
file (which is suggested as a probable fix to no avail.

Any suggestions?

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RE: Oracle DBA vs JAVA programmer???

2002-10-25 Thread Kevin Lange
My only comment is ...   New Jersey over Colorado   Are you mad
woman 

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Hi all,

I need your idea.  I got laid off as an Oracle DBA (3
yrs experience), and it's hard to find a DBA position
here(I'm in Colorado).  I had couple of years
experience programming (3 yrs) in VB, and currently
learning JAVA.  I'd like to know is JAVA market still
hot?  (I can relocate to New Jersey, any memeber in
New Jersey? how is the market over there, for Oracle
DBA or JAVA programmer?)

What do you think which position is better, Oracle DBA
or Java programmer?  Based on compensation, workload,
market demand, etc, etc ...

Thanks a lot!

Janet


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RE: DB monitoring using SNMP MIBs

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RE: Flat file generation integrity ideas...

2002-10-24 Thread Kevin Lange
Title: Message



Trouble with this is that there is a possibility that a change in the 
number in the file could result in the same sum.

Then 
you have different data but your checks says everything is ok. 


Checksums are far more accurate.

  -Original Message-From: Grabowy, Chris 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 1:49 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
  Flat file generation integrity ideas...
  (slapping my forehead) Duh.
  
  Nice. I like it. Simple but effective. Minimal impact 
  on performance. And easy for the other systems to implement. 
  
  
  You 
  da man, Tom, I don't care what Jared and Rachel said about 
  you...
  
  Thanks.
  

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ideas...
Chris,

have you thought aboutsumming a number column 
in the record and placing this sum in a trailer record? this way, you 
have a header and trailer record which helps you be confident that the whole 
file made it to the target system. and by comparing the sum of the 
imported records with the trailer record, it gives you a better level of 
confidence that things didn't get scrambled.

I 
used to do all sorts of these things when file transfer was not as good as 
it is now. the above method is pretty simple, easy to do, and pretty 
accurate.

hope this helps.

Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional 

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 1:35 
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  Flat file generation integrity ideas...
  I have to create packages that will generate 
  several flat files of data from tables that will be sent to other systems 
  to be processed.
  I am looking for ideas on how to ensure data 
  integrity in the flat files. 
  For example, the expected record count is 
  stored on the first line of the file to ensure that the correct amount of 
  records was received.
  The systems group is chartered to ensure the 
  flat files are correctly FTPed between systems, so that's covered. 
  
  I just worry that if "somehow" a flat file is 
  scrambled then the scrambled data is loaded into the database, therefore 
  corrupting it.
  At this phase, XML is not an option 
  I keep thinking that some sort of CRC should be 
  stored with each line in the flat file. And then before the line is 
  loaded into the database, the CRC is compared against the generated CRC of 
  the just read line. Has anyone done anything like this? Any 
  examples out there?
  Many TIA!! 



RE: Flat file generation integrity ideas...

2002-10-24 Thread Kevin Lange
Title: Flat file generation integrity ideas...



Chris;

I 
would suggest the following:
 
1. Generating Check Sums of the files before they are sent.
 
2.Send the files.
 
3. Generating an after Check Sum and compare.

Here 
are the steps I go thru to make sure our Oracle Archive Logs are correctly 
transfered to our Standby Server:

 
1. Zip the Archive Logs into 1 Zip.
 
2. Check Sum the Zip.
 
3. Use the TEST option to make sure the Zip is good.
 
4. RCP the zip file to the standby location.
 
5. RSH a test of the Zip.
 
6. RSH a Check Sum of the Transfered Zip and compare to original 
value.
 
7. Unzip the file


With 
this method you have 2 independent checks the Check Sum and the Zip 
Integrity Check.

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ideas...

  I have to create packages that will generate 
  several flat files of data from tables that will be sent to other systems to 
  be processed.
  I am looking for ideas on how to ensure data 
  integrity in the flat files. 
  For example, the expected record count is stored on 
  the first line of the file to ensure that the correct amount of records was 
  received.
  The systems group is chartered to ensure the flat 
  files are correctly FTPed between systems, so that's covered. 
  I just worry that if "somehow" a flat file is 
  scrambled then the scrambled data is loaded into the database, therefore 
  corrupting it.
  At this phase, XML is not an option 
  I keep thinking that some sort of CRC should be 
  stored with each line in the flat file. And then before the line is 
  loaded into the database, the CRC is compared against the generated CRC of the 
  just read line. Has anyone done anything like this? Any examples 
  out there?
  Many TIA!! 


RE: DB monitoring using SNMP MIBs

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RE: secure connection

2002-10-24 Thread Kevin Lange
These days . just hire a 15 year old kid with a computer at home  He
might do beter than an expensive 'security firm' ...

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Hire a special company that handle this.
We are doing it to see how unbreakable are our servers.

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   how can I be sure that the connection between our web server and
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   Any good links for Oracle Nwtwork Security.
 
   Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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RE: oracle or mssql

2002-10-23 Thread Kevin Lange
Its been a while since I used MS SQL but one of the downsides that I
experienced was the fact that MSSQL could not support the user loads we
needed right out of the box.  We had to cluster servers together to get the
throughput that we got out of Oracle.

MSSQL might be cheaper at the database software level but it was more
expensive at the hardware level.. at least in our case.

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No it doesn't.

MicroSoft is a card-carrying member of the Axis Of Evil.

Last I heard they were developing nuclear weapons, probably in a huge bunker
under Bill Gates' house.

--Walt Weaver
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It depends on your companies needs.

On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 mssql.
 His opinion is that most features are almost the same but mssql does that
at
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 So why he should not choose mssql is the question




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RE: Rollback segment space usage

2002-10-23 Thread Kevin Lange
SELECT   
  r.NAME, -- rbs name
  s.sid, 
  s.serial#, 
  s.username, 
  s.machine, 
  t.status,
  t.cr_get, -- consistent gets
  t.phy_io, -- physical IO
  t.used_ublk, -- Undo blocks used
  t.noundo, --   Is a noundo transaction
  SUBSTR (s.program, 1, 78) COMMAND, 
  s.username DB User, 
  t.start_time,
  s.sql_address Address, 
  s.sql_hash_value Sql Hash
FROM sys.v_$session s, sys.v_$transaction t, sys.v_$rollname r
WHERE t.addr = s.taddr AND t.xidusn = r.usn
ORDER BY t.start_time


Try this.   It shows the undo blocks used in the rollback segment.  Plus
some other variables for query usage.

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Hi all, 

Trying here now since have tried to find it online and build the query
myself.

I need to figure out how much space a user/session is using of a rollback
segment.

I got the queries to show which segment the user is attached to but need to
know how much is being used (something like a fuel gauge).

Any takers.

George

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RE: Theory v Practice

2002-10-23 Thread Kevin Lange
-- Make sure that they wear clothing in bright colors.

Not exactly a nice comment Gogala   I have friends in that area who are
dealing with the sniper every day   I am sure there are others as well.

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Can you send them to oracle training in  Bethesda, MD or
Reston, VA? Benefits could be multiple, especially for you. 
Make sure that they wear clothing in bright colors.

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 Subject: Theory v Practice
 
 
 The developers working on our new VB app are also responsible for
 setting up the Oracle DB behind it. The app is for an order
 entry/despatch/warehouse system with 5 million customers and 1000
 orders per day. We have nearly 400 tables. They are not planning on
 using primary keys/secondary keys, as they say they will 
 handle all the
 constraints via VB.
 I only have a theoretical knowledge of database design, which 
 says this
 is very wrong. Is the Oracle system being used as anything 
 more than an
 expensive file system? In real world scenarios, is this a common
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RE: DB monitoring using SNMP MIBs

2002-10-23 Thread Kevin Lange
Title: RE: DB monitoring using SNMP MIBs



Yes. You can use PERL to do such things such as getting the 
database state, name, consistent gets, system block gets, etc from 
SNMP:

#!/usr/local/bin/perl

use 
BER;

use 
SNMP_Session;use SNMP_util;use Getopt::Std;

getopts("h:i:");

my($host, $community, $response, $bindings, $binding, $value, @oid, 
@retvals);my $session;

$host 
= $opt_h;$community = "public";$db_index = $opt_i;

# 
Database State$oid[0] = '.1.3.6.1.2.1.39.1.9.1.1.2.2';#Database 
Name$oid[1] = '.1.3.6.1.2.1.39.1.7.1.4.' . $db_index 
. 
'.7.100.98.95.110.97.109.101.1';# Consistent Block Gets$oid[2] = 
'enterprises.111.4.1.1.1.2.' . $db_index;# System Block Gets$oid[3] = 
'enterprises.111.4.1.1.1.4.' . $db_index;

my 
@retvals = SNMP_util::snmpget ( $host, @oid );



  -Original Message-From: Jamadagni, Rajendra 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 
  2002 5:20 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: RE: DB monitoring using SNMP 
  MIBs
  Thanks Dennis, Gary 
  I have tools at my disposal to monitor the db, and I have no 
  problem with that. I was just reading through snmp and was intrigues by the 
  idea that I could get some information without running scripts through sqlplus 
  interface and if so how to accomplish that.
  I know it is doable because IA does that, just wondering if it 
  would be feasible to do it be some scripting ... 
  Raj __ Rajendra Jamadagni 
   MIS, ESPN Inc. Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com Any 
  opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN Inc. 
  QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion 
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  Raj - I'm no expert on SNMP, so maybe someone that is more 
  knowledgeable will reply. I believe that SNMP 
  underlies most of the monitoring tools on the market 
  today. OEM may even use SNMP. I can see two approaches for you. 
   1. You write your own tool that will issue SNMP 
  alerts. Perhaps this would be a Unix daemon process 
  that executes database queries, and then based on what 
  it finds, issues SNMP alerts.  2. Use an 
  existing tool to accomplish what you want.  If your desire is to create a database 
  monitoring tool that you can give away for free, then 
  sell to CA for a lot of money, take path #1. If your goal is to become a better DBA, then I would go with #2. 

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  information rather than running queries against the 
  db? 
  I am looking into this and have no clue or available docs on 
  how to do this (esp on AIX). If someone can point me 
  to the right direction, I would really appreciate 
  that. 
  TIA Raj __ Rajendra 
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RE: kill session

2002-10-17 Thread Kevin Lange
Give that out only if you want said user to be able to do such minor things
as :
  mess with archive loging
  kill anyones session
  flush the shared pool
  shutdown dispatchers
  etc.


I would NOT suggest doing that.

Create a procedure that finds the appropriate session ID and then kills it.
Then give execute on this procedure to those using the application.  Do NOT
give out Alter System to your users.



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Hello,

I received a request from a developer, who is working on a
client C++ front end application intended to perform semi-customized
queries against a star schema in a datawarehouse. By semi-
customized, I mean the fields selected are usually the same,
the user can change date ranges, age ranges, etc., affecting the
where clause. This app communicates with Oracle 8.1.7.4 server on
Solaris via an oracle8 ODBC driver. The developer is looking for a way
to allow the user to interrupt/kill any queries from the application.
Here is an excerpt of his request:

Apparently the Oracle8 ODBC drivers don't support asynchronous execution at
all, so it can't be done through ODBC.  After hunting through Oracle
documentation, I've considered starting the query in one thread, and killing
it in another with a command like ALTER SYSTEM KILL SESSION '[sid],
[serial#]'.

A couple of questions:

1.  How big a deal would it be to grant users the ALTER SYSTEM privilege, so
app_name could kill their sessions?  Would this have the desired effect of
just abandoning the query?
2.  Are you aware of any other, better ways to kill a query, given that ODBC
doesn't directly support it?


I am hesitant to grant alter system to users. Does anyone have a better
suggestion?
Thanks

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RE: OEM can't seem to discover 1 instance

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RE: SNP acronym?

2002-10-17 Thread Kevin Lange
Title: SNP acronym?



Snapshot Refresh Processes. 

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  ORACLE-LSubject: SNP acronym?
  What does the background job queue acronym SNP stand for 
  ? 


RE: OEM can't seem to discover 1 instance

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RE: * Sr. Oracle 8i DBA Needed in NYC- Locals Only..

2002-10-14 Thread Kevin Lange



Dpeneding on the state of course . at least here in Texas 
there is not (currently) state income tax.

  -Original Message-From: Rodd Holman 
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  paying about 30% of that to Federal, State, and Local taxes, Social Security, 
  Medicaid Taxes, etc.. On Mon, 2002-10-14 at 02:43, Lyndon Tiu wrote: 
  Keep on dreaming.

On Sun, 13 Oct 2002, Sinardy Xing wrote:
 Hi US friends,
 
 How high is your income tax ?
 
 90-110K is this the take home pay ?
 
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RE: Elementary question about triggers

2002-10-14 Thread Kevin Lange

Why not just remove delete authority from anyone not authorized to delete
from it ??

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CREATE OR REPLACE TRIGGER temp_trig BEFORE DELETE ON temp_tab FOR EACH ROW
BEGIN
RAISE_APPLICATION_ERROR(-2,'Do not delete ...');
END;
/

Bala.
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Dear Listers,

I hope you won't mind a question that (I think) looks unfit for this list:

Can we prevent a delete trigger from deleting a row?

To make it clear, here's the code for a trigger:

CREATE OR REPLACE TRIGGER temp_trig BEFORE DELETE ON temp_tab FOR EACH ROW

???

END;

What statement should I write in the PL/SQL block, that will prevent the
deletion of the row.

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RE: Re: Shell scripting

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RE: Re: Shell scripting

2002-10-08 Thread Kevin Lange

Ahhh  I had not seen that part of the response.   Well, now they have a
sample of just how complicated it can get.

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Kevin,

Thanks for the 'coprocess', I couldn't remember what it was called.

This is what I was describing in my previous email.

Jared





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Actually Jared, you can by setting up a sqlplus coprocess and using unix
pipes.  The routine below will get a parameter from the v$parameter table
using sqlplus.

Kevin


=== 

get_db_parm()
{
  unset vRETURNED_PARM
  unset vRESPONSE

  typeset -u vPARM

  vPARM=$1

  sqlplus -silent /NOLOG |
  print -p 'set feedback off'
  print -p 'set echo off'
  print -p 'set heading off'
  print -p 'set pagesize 0'
  print -p 'connect internal'

  read -p vRESPONSE
  while [ ${vRESPONSE:-Z} != 'Connected.' -a \
  ${vRESPONSE%ORA*}Z != 'Z' ]
  do
read -p vRESPONSE
  done

  if [ ${vRESPONSE:-Z} = Z ] ; then
 return 1
  fi

  vTERMINATOR='Z'
  print -p SELECT UPPER(name)||':'||value t FROM v\$parameter
  print -p WHERE UPPER(name) = '${vPARM}'
  print -p UNION
  print -p SELECT '${vTERMINATOR}' t FROM dual
  print -p ORDER BY 1;

  read -p vRESPONSE

  while [ ${vRESPONSE} != ${vTERMINATOR} ]
  do
if [ ${vRESPONSE%%:*} = $vPARM ] ; then
 vRETURNED_PARM=${vRESPONSE##*:}
  if [ ${vRETURNED_PARM%%\?*}Z = Z ] ; then
vRETURNED_PARM=${ORACLE_HOME}${vRETURNED_PARM#\?}
  fi
fi
read -p vRESPONSE
  done

  print -p exit

  # Flush Buffer after exiting
  while [ $? -eq 0 ]
  do
read -p $vRESPONSE
  done

  vRETURNED_PARM=`echo $vRETURNED_PARM|sed s/%/%%/g`

  printf ${vRETURNED_PARM}\n

  return 0
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Omar,

If what you mean is:

How do I send a value from sqlplus plus directly
to a variable in my shell environment?

You can't.

What you've done is the way it is usually done.

Another way to do it is to use the '|' korn shell mechanism.

e.g.
  sqlplus  -silent scott/tiger@$ORACLE_SID |

This allows you to send commands straight to sqlplus
from the ksh command line, and retrieve the results
of queries from the cmd line.

It's not as easy as it appears.  I wrote a set of shell functions
once upon a time to do this, and it gets more complex than
you expect.

The method you are currently using works ok. 

Of course, you could use Perl with DBI and avoid all this
subshell nonsense.

Jared


On Tuesday 08 October 2002 01:23, Cyril Thankappan wrote:
 Sure

 THanks Omar

 But I was looking for a
 'non-file based' solution :)

 Thanks anyway

 On Mon, 07 Oct 2002 Omar Khalid wrote :
 hi
 
 well i think i did this once, you can read
 the output of the SQL query into shell variables by
 first  redirecting the output of the SQL query to an
 OS file and then reading the file and loading
 the data in the file into shell variables.
 
 /* here is sample code to redirect the output  of sql query to OS
 file */
 
 #!/bin/sh
 
 CMD_FILE=sql_input.sql
 LOC_FILE=output.log
 
   SQLCMD=connect internal ;
select * from sys.dba_users ;
   echo $SQLCMD  ${CMD_FILE}
 
   svrmgrl  ${CMD_FILE}  ${LOC_FILE} /* redirecting the
 out of
 svrmgrl to OS file */
 
 regards
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 Hi
 
 I wanted to select a column from a v$ table
 
 struggled with it
 and finally came with a workaround as follows
 
 
 
 archived_log='$archived_log'
 begin_seq=`sqlplus -s /nolog EOF
 connect / as sysdba
 set head off
 set echo off
 set feedback off
 set verify off
 select max(sequence#)-1 from v$archived_log ;
 exit
 EOF`
 echo $begin_seq
 
 ---
 
 However, the question is how to
 'directly' take the output into a shell variable?
 there 'shud be' a better workaround than this !
 
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RE: SQL and case structure

2002-10-07 Thread Kevin Lange

Look up the DECODE function

  select acct_no, 
 decode(substr(acct_no,16,1),'1','one','2','two','other')
from star.kills;

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Listers:

I've used SAS's version of SQL and it allows the coding of conditional logic
in the SELECT statement:

proc sql;
  select acct_no, 
 case substr(acct_no,16,1)
   when '1'  then 'one'
   when '2'  then 'two'
   else   'other' 
  end as desc
from star.kills;
quit;

The same syntax does not work in SQL*Plus for Oracle 8.  Can someone point
me to the correct syntax?  

Secondly, any URLs for this kind of information would be most appreciated.

Regards,
Harry

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RE: rollback_segment who is using?

2002-10-04 Thread Kevin Lange

If you have TOAD with the DBA module , it can tell you which is being used
by whom.

If not, here is the sql statement that generates the list :

SELECT   r.NAME, -- rbs name
 s.sid, s.serial#, s.username, s.machine, t.status,
 t.cr_get, -- consistent gets
 t.phy_io, -- physical IO
 t.used_ublk, -- Undo blocks used
 t.noundo, --   Is a noundo transaction
 SUBSTR (s.program, 1, 78) COMMAND, s.username DB User,
t.start_time,
 s.sql_address
   Address, s.sql_hash_value Sql Hash
FROM sys.v_$session s, sys.v_$transaction t, sys.v_$rollname r
   WHERE t.addr = s.taddr AND t.xidusn = r.usn
ORDER BY t.start_time

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Dear List,

Some developers had written the code to use the
particular rollback segments. how to find out which
session is using which rollback segment?

Thanks in advance
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RE: Restrict certain database access using 3rd party tools.

2002-10-03 Thread Kevin Lange

Except for the fact that they could always change the program name that they
are running to match what you need.   Then that security is bypassed.



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In homemade applications, by default users have a role
with read only, in the applications we change the
default role that allows insert, update, delete.

I've not tested this scenario but how about if, in a
database logon trigger, you check the
v$process.program field then depending of that value
you may be able to change the user default's role.

Should work on 8i using dedicated connection.


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 sqlplus,toad,etc.  I know you can set up security
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 using product_user_profile but is there a way to
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RE: svrmgrl echo v$database in script

2002-10-03 Thread Kevin Lange

In order for the K Shell to let you use a Dollar Sign ($) as a litteral
 you need to use the escape character before it (\)
 
 So, instead of 
   select name from v$database;
 use
   select name from v\$database;

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echo $ORACLE_SID  logfile

Scott Shafer
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210.581.6217


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 Subject:  svrmgrl echo v$database in script
 
 
 Oracle 8.0.5
 Solaris 2.6
 
 List:
 I've created a script (ksh) called from elsewhere that shuts down the
 database.  I REALLY want to echo the name of the database into my log file
 before I shut down.While select name from v$database works fine from
 svrmgrl interactively, it throws up in the script.  I'd guess the $ sign
 is
 screwing it up.  (I can get other commands to work within the script.)
 However, I don't know what to do about it.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 Thx!!!
 
 Barb
 
 $ svrmgrl
 
 SVRMGR connect internal
 Connected.
 SVRMGR select name from v$database;
 NAME
 -
 TADENT
 1 row selected.
 
 
 #!/usr/bin/ksh
 # $Id: stop_db.sh ver.1 10/02/2002 B.Baker Exp $
 # Name: stop_db.sh
 # Author:   Barb Baker
 # Purpose:  execute shutdown immediate on current database
 #   (i.e., database pointed to by current value of ORACLE_SID)
 
 echo Stop oracle instance \${ORACLE_SID}\  at `date` 
${ORACLE_HOME}/bin/svrmgrl  EOF
connect internal
select name from v_$database;
 EOF
 
 
 $  ./stop_db.sh
 Stop oracle instance tadent  at Wed Oct  2 16:24:59 MDT 2002
 
 
 SVRMGR Connected.
 SVRMGRselect name from v_
   *
 ORA-00942: table or view does not exist
 SVRMGR
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RE: Selecting Next X Values From Dual

2002-09-27 Thread Kevin Lange

I created a package that would easily loop thru and select x number of
entries, but not return them in a select to you.   This way, you can make 1
simple call passing it X.   

Is that what you wanted ??? Or do you have to have them as returned values
of a select ?

Kevin

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Anjo...

Thanks for the reply!!

 If X is fixed for all sessions, do a step increase of X so that you
 only have to select 1 row from dual.

Unfortunately, I don't feel I can do that.  I'm using the returned
values as unique identifiers to protect against duplicate database
submissions from a web-based application.

I have implemented a workaround by selecting a row from dual X number of
times.  I wanted something a bit cleaner, and [seemingly] less
database-intensive than querying in a loop.

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RE: Staspack Grapher/Viewer ?

2002-09-19 Thread Kevin Lange

We use MRTG to produce graphs for data from different sources  network
stats, hardware stats, database stats.

Maybe you could use it for statspack.



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Does anyone have or know of any utilities, preferably 
freeeware or very cheap, that can produce graphs of 
the data collected by statspack?

Thanks VERY much in advance.
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RE: Apologies for Off-Topic Question - Where has Oracle-l-OT gone

2002-09-19 Thread Kevin Lange



Its 
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RE: Listener load balance

2002-09-18 Thread Kevin Lange



I did 
not know about the LOAD_BALANCE=ON . Thanks.

  -Original Message-From: Ramon E. Estevez 
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  2002 10:33 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: Re: Listener load balance
  TKS Yechiel for your help,
  
  Two more questions.
  
  Is there any way I can find out which one of the 2 addresses 
  I am using ?
  
  Which isbetter solution this method or add another 
  listener ?
  
  Tks for your help
  
  TIA
  
  Ramon
  
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Adar 
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Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 
4:09 AM
Subject: Re: Listener load 
balance

Hello Ramon

I think that you have an error in your 
parameters.
As far as I know (not much) the second network card 
have a different TCP/IP address.
You have to put this address in the added line in 
listener.ora and add (load_balance=on).
 (ADDRESS_LIST 
=
 
(load_balance=on) (ADDRESS = 
(PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = myserver)(PORT = 1521)) 
---Original (ADDRESS 
= (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = newnetwork card address)(PORT = 
1526)) --- Added 
) 
In the tnsnames you have to use load_balance=on 
and put both addresses and ports in the address 
list:
(description=
(address list=
 (load_balance=on)
 
(address=(protocol=TCP,host=225.125.110.5,port=1521)) 
 (address=(protocol=TCP,host=newnetwork 
card address,port=1526))

This way the clients will use both address.
Yechiel AdarMehish

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  Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 
  10:19 PM
  Subject: Re: Listener load 
  balance
  
  Tks Kevin,
  
  I didn't setup the DNS to do that. I ping myserver 
  and is using the new address. Don't know how to do it 
  either.
  
  What I am planning to do is to setthe manually the 
  ip address to the both port. I am using local names.
  
   (ADDRESS = 
  (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = 225.125.100.5)(PORT = 1521)) 
  ---Original 
  (ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = 225.125.100.6)(PORT = 
  1526)) --- Added
  
  Ramon
  
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From: 
Kevin Lange 

To: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-L 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 
12:03 PM
Subject: RE: Listener load 
balance

Your HOSTNAME of 'myserver' would tell you 
which.

Since you have the same hostname on the listener, both ports 
would currently be using the same IP address.

Did you setup DNS so that the cards share a Hostname 
?

  -Original Message-From: Ramon E. Estevez 
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  ORACLE-LSubject: Listener load balance
  Hi list,
  
  Scenario Win2000 server, 8.1.7.
  
  I added anetwork card to my DB Server. I 
  want the listener to accept connections for the 2 IP address to make 
  load balance. I just added a line to the listener file with a 
  different port.
  
  How can I assure that the port 1521 is listening for 
  the net address 01 and the port 1526 in the address 02 ?
  
  
  Is that correct ?
  
  ---
  
  LISTENER = (DESCRIPTION_LIST 
  = (DESCRIPTION 
  = (ADDRESS_LIST 
  = (ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = 
  IPC)(KEY = EXTPROC1)) 
  ) (ADDRESS_LIST 
  = (ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = 
  TCP)(HOST = myserver)(PORT = 1521)) 
  ---Original 
  (ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = myserver)(PORT = 1526)) 
  --- Added 
  ) ) (DESCRIPTION 
  = (PROTOCOL_STACK 
  = (PRESENTATION = 
  GIOP) (SESSION = 
  RAW) 
  ) (ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = 
  myserver)(PORT = 2481)) ) 
  )
  
  SID_LIST_LISTENER = (SID_LIST 
  = (SID_DESC = 
  (SID_NAME = PLSExtProc) (ORACLE_HOME 
  = C:\Oracle\Ora8I) (PROGRAM = 
  extproc) ) (SID_DESC 
  = (GLOBAL_DBNAME = 
  ORCL) (ORACLE_HOME = 
  C:\Oracle\Ora8I) (SID_NAME = 
  ORCL) ) )
  
  
  
  TIA,
  
  
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RE: Listener load balance

2002-09-17 Thread Kevin Lange



Your 
HOSTNAME of 'myserver' would tell you which.

Since 
you have the same hostname on the listener, both ports would currently be using 
the same IP address.

Did 
you setup DNS so that the cards share a Hostname ?

  -Original Message-From: Ramon E. Estevez 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 
  2002 9:43 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: Listener load balance
  Hi list,
  
  Scenario Win2000 server, 8.1.7.
  
  I added anetwork card to my DB Server. I want 
  the listener to accept connections for the 2 IP address to make load 
  balance. I just added a line to the listener file with a different 
  port.
  
  How can I assure that the port 1521 is listening for the net 
  address 01 and the port 1526 in the address 02 ?
  
  
  Is that correct ?
  
  ---
  
  LISTENER = (DESCRIPTION_LIST 
  = (DESCRIPTION = 
  (ADDRESS_LIST = (ADDRESS = 
  (PROTOCOL = IPC)(KEY = EXTPROC1)) 
  ) (ADDRESS_LIST 
  = (ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = 
  TCP)(HOST = myserver)(PORT = 1521)) 
  ---Original (ADDRESS = 
  (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = myserver)(PORT = 1526)) --- 
  Added ) 
  ) (DESCRIPTION = 
  (PROTOCOL_STACK = (PRESENTATION 
  = GIOP) (SESSION = 
  RAW) ) 
  (ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = myserver)(PORT = 
  2481)) ) )
  
  SID_LIST_LISTENER = (SID_LIST 
  = (SID_DESC = 
  (SID_NAME = PLSExtProc) (ORACLE_HOME = 
  C:\Oracle\Ora8I) (PROGRAM = 
  extproc) ) (SID_DESC 
  = (GLOBAL_DBNAME = 
  ORCL) (ORACLE_HOME = 
  C:\Oracle\Ora8I) (SID_NAME = 
  ORCL) ) )
  
  
  
  TIA,
  
  
  Ramon E. Estevez[EMAIL PROTECTED]809-565-3121


RE: backup controlfile to trace

2002-09-17 Thread Kevin Lange

The way we do it is not 100% but it seems close enough.  We run the backup
command and then do a descending order listing by date from the trace
directory.   The first file is the one containing the trace.

If anyone has a beter idea, I am all ears.

Kevin

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8.1.7

For scripting purposes, what is the logic for finding the trc file from
alter database backup controlfile to trace cmd?  This seems really
stupid not being able to direct the output.
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RE: Decode

2002-09-11 Thread Kevin Lange

decode(test_value,if_A,then_B,if_C,then_D,...,otherwise_E)

decode(city,'San Francisco','CA','Dallas','TX','Unknown')

If the city is 'San Francisco', return 'CA'.
If the city is 'Dallas', return 'TX'
If neither, return 'Unknown'



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Hello everyone,

I am having a senior moment and I have forgetten the syntax for 'decode'.
Can anyone give me a hint.  I have leant out my sql books and of course I
need them now.

Thanks in advance,
Ruth Gramolini
Oracle DBA, Vermont Department of Taxes

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RE: RBO/CBO question

2002-09-11 Thread Kevin Lange

How about the profile of the user ??  Can that be used to set a different
default optimizer mode for a particular user ??   If so ,then maybe the
profile of the user  that the copy is connecting as would setup the right
mode.

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Listers,
How do you set optimizer_goal to 'choose' to take effect for sessions
connecting using COPY command? 
The database runs with optimizer_mode=RULE. I want to test if CBO would be
better for queries used for data selection via COPY. 

Thanks.

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RE: methodology to keep only certain programs to connect to

2002-09-10 Thread Kevin Lange



With a setup like this, how do you stop a 
user from simply renaming the program they are using to match what you expect to 
see and, therefore, getting past your security ??

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  RE: methodology to keep only certain programs to connect 
  to
  use v_$mystat - it has the sid - then do 
  your join with v$session
  
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connect to
I've been tasked to ensure only certain app programs access the 
database.

I'm thinking on-logon trigger, check the program field from 
v$session. unfortunately v$session is for all sessions, i can't seem 
to find the view that tells me only MY info during login. I only want 
the sid, serial#, username and program for my just now connection to the 
database.

Does this exist or am I going about this the wrong way?

We're thinking of checking those fields to make sure sql*plus, toad, 
etc can't connect as a particular user(even though the password is known out 
in the community).

any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

joe



RE: methodology to keep only certain programs to connect to

2002-09-10 Thread Kevin Lange

I have always thought this was the best way to implement a security package.
Nice to see you implemented the seed number for changing encryption.

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I'm working with an application that uses a combination of encrypted
seed numbers and password protected roles to limit access to the
application tables to the specific application and version.

In this database, any external application (sqlplus, etc) cannot provide
access to the application tables since that requires activation of the
password protected role.  The only default role for users is a connect
role that has only connect privs.  And, you can't just grab a copy of
the application from anywhere and use it against the database since the
encrypted seed number compiled into the application is checked against
the value in the database before a connection is permitted.

Glenn Stauffer

On Tue, 2002-09-10 at 11:58, JOE TESTA wrote:
 I've been tasked to ensure only certain app programs access the database.
 
 I'm thinking on-logon trigger, check the program field from v$session.
unfortunately v$session is for all sessions, i can't seem to find the view
that tells me only MY info during login.  I only want the sid, serial#,
username and program for my just now connection to the database.
 
 Does this exist or am I going about this the wrong way?
 
 We're thinking of checking those fields to make sure sql*plus, toad, etc
can't connect as a particular user(even though the password is known out in
the community).
 
 any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
 
 joe


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RE: Recreate database script

2002-09-09 Thread Kevin Lange

I have used Visio to do that .  

It links the tables together if they have foreign/primary keys.  If you have
no relations like that then it will at least list all the tables you pick.

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 Could anyone here suggest a software package that can create an ER
 diagram by simply connecting to an Oracle database, reverse engineer
 it to see the schema in an ER diagram - instead of in a file with
 ddl/dml statements.

I haven't tested it, but Microsoft Visio 2000 claims to be able to
reverse engineer a database.

Gary Chambers

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