Re: Recover an unrecoverable database
Hi Dan It should be possible to open that database ! 1) You should restore the databse from tape once more to make sure we start on somthing clean. 2) Add the _allow_resetlogs_corruption=true to the parameter file (init.ora) 3) Mount the database and create new controlfiles 4) Do a fake recovery via 4.1) recover database; 4.2) when it asks for a archive file type 'mogens' 4.3) cancel the recovery session 5) Open the database with resetlogs You migth need to corrupt the Rollback as well with _corrupted_rollback_segments=(xx, xx, xx) where 'xx' are the names of the rollback segments in the database. If the database makes a fuzz abut not being in Archive log mode that can be fixed when you create the control file. There are alwas the the real brut force way : create a database with the same name and that same datafiles, redologfiles, and controlfile and then copy the header blocks from the datafile's to the old database with dd. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 5:19 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Here's the scenario - A backup was done of a database that had been shutdown with the abort option. The redo logs (no archiving) are also backed up. The controlfiles have since been lost. Business request - Retrieve a schema that has since been dropped from the database. Attempted solution - restore the backups, open the db without performing recovery (resetlogs and readonly corruption allowed). Unfortunately, this resulted in an ORA-00600 when it attempted to read the SYSTEM datafile. Does anyone have any ideas of how to open this db so we can get the data out of the schema? We don't care if it is not consistent. All assistance is appreciated. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Fink, Dan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- /regards Peter Gram Mobil : +45 2527 7107 Fax : +45 4466 8856 Miracle A/S Kratvej 2 2760 Mlv http://miracleas.dk smime.p7s Description: application/pkcs7-signature
RE: Recover an unrecoverable database
I would be curious to hear what Oracle Support suggests, Dan. Regards, Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes Technology Services | Services technologiques Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: Fink, Dan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 7:19 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Recover an unrecoverable database Here's the scenario - A backup was done of a database that had been shutdown with the abort option. The redo logs (no archiving) are also backed up. The controlfiles have since been lost. Business request - Retrieve a schema that has since been dropped from the database. Attempted solution- restore the backups, open the db without performing recovery (resetlogs and readonly corruption allowed). Unfortunately, this resulted in an ORA-00600 when it attempted to read the SYSTEM datafile. Does anyone have any ideas of how to open this db so we can get the data out of the schema? We don't care if it is not consistent. All assistance is appreciated.
RE: Recover an unrecoverable database
I've tried several approaches to the recovery. So far, no success. I have a feeling that this is a truly unrecoverable db (without having Oracle Field Support use their magic). The main problem (in my mind) is that the current database physical structure (files and sizes) does not match the backup version, so I have no guide for creating a controlfile. When you recreate a controlfile, the files are listed in a specific order, which I presume matches the file# in sys.file$. So, if you don't know the proper order, the file information in the controlfile and data dictionary will be mismatched and thus the db cannot be opened. Right or wrong? Thanks to all for the ideas and information. Dan -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Fink, Dan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Recover an unrecoverable database
Dan - When you say recreate a control file are you meaning the CREATE CONTROLFILE statement? If so, then in answer to that specific issue, the order of the datafiles does not matter. I do this regularly to create test databases and I've never worried about making the order the same. I have even left datafiles off and Oracle just flags those. That doesn't solve your overall problem, though. Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 11:33 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I've tried several approaches to the recovery. So far, no success. I have a feeling that this is a truly unrecoverable db (without having Oracle Field Support use their magic). The main problem (in my mind) is that the current database physical structure (files and sizes) does not match the backup version, so I have no guide for creating a controlfile. When you recreate a controlfile, the files are listed in a specific order, which I presume matches the file# in sys.file$. So, if you don't know the proper order, the file information in the controlfile and data dictionary will be mismatched and thus the db cannot be opened. Right or wrong? Thanks to all for the ideas and information. Dan -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Fink, Dan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Recover an unrecoverable database
If I recall the original problem, you have a backup of the datafiles, and redologs, but no controlfiles. In that case, just specify all the datafiles and redologs (that are in the backup) in the create controlfile... statement. The order does not matter, nor is the list required to be complete. Oracle will compare the file headers with the dictionary, and flag files you have not provided in the create controlfile as missing. After the create controlfile, recover database, and alter database open. Everything required for recovery is in the redologs, so a normal recovery is possible. No need for any underscore parameters -- they cause more problems. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/13/02 05:08a.m. Dan - When you say recreate a control file are you meaning the CREATE CONTROLFILE statement? If so, then in answer to that specific issue, the order of the datafiles does not matter. I do this regularly to create test databases and I've never worried about making the order the same. I have even left datafiles off and Oracle just flags those. That doesn't solve your overall problem, though. Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 11:33 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I've tried several approaches to the recovery. So far, no success. I have a feeling that this is a truly unrecoverable db (without having Oracle Field Support use their magic). The main problem (in my mind) is that the current database physical structure (files and sizes) does not match the backup version, so I have no guide for creating a controlfile. When you recreate a controlfile, the files are listed in a specific order, which I presume matches the file# in sys.file$. So, if you don't know the proper order, the file information in the controlfile and data dictionary will be mismatched and thus the db cannot be opened. Right or wrong? Thanks to all for the ideas and information. Dan -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Binley Lim INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Recover an unrecoverable database
Dan - May be a good Oracle Support question. I've had pretty good luck with them on really challenging recoveries. My suggestion would be to try again. Load the files again from tape, but allow recovery when the database comes up. Since the database was shutdown abort, Oracle will want to automatically recover the database when it tries to start. The recovery information is probably in the redo logs (good reason to back them up). Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 5:19 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Here's the scenario - A backup was done of a database that had been shutdown with the abort option. The redo logs (no archiving) are also backed up. The controlfiles have since been lost. Business request - Retrieve a schema that has since been dropped from the database. Attempted solution - restore the backups, open the db without performing recovery (resetlogs and readonly corruption allowed). Unfortunately, this resulted in an ORA-00600 when it attempted to read the SYSTEM datafile. Does anyone have any ideas of how to open this db so we can get the data out of the schema? We don't care if it is not consistent. All assistance is appreciated. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Recover an unrecoverable database
I have a colleague working the 'Official' approach with Oracle support. I am not certain what he will learn nor how quickly, so I'm taking the shotgun approach. Dan -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 3:26 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Dan - May be a good Oracle Support question. I've had pretty good luck with them on really challenging recoveries. My suggestion would be to try again. Load the files again from tape, but allow recovery when the database comes up. Since the database was shutdown abort, Oracle will want to automatically recover the database when it tries to start. The recovery information is probably in the redo logs (good reason to back them up). Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 5:19 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Here's the scenario - A backup was done of a database that had been shutdown with the abort option. The redo logs (no archiving) are also backed up. The controlfiles have since been lost. Business request - Retrieve a schema that has since been dropped from the database. Attempted solution - restore the backups, open the db without performing recovery (resetlogs and readonly corruption allowed). Unfortunately, this resulted in an ORA-00600 when it attempted to read the SYSTEM datafile. Does anyone have any ideas of how to open this db so we can get the data out of the schema? We don't care if it is not consistent. All assistance is appreciated. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Fink, Dan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Recover an unrecoverable database
If you can't recover it, Oracle has, or had, a utility called DUL (Data UnLoader ???) that will read the datafiles and create files usable by sqlldr. I haven't used it, but I heard about it several times. It's still urban legend until I get a copy :) Anybody have a copy I can borrow for AIX or NT??? Steve - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 5:54 PM I have a colleague working the 'Official' approach with Oracle support. I am not certain what he will learn nor how quickly, so I'm taking the shotgun approach. Dan -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 3:26 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Dan - May be a good Oracle Support question. I've had pretty good luck with them on really challenging recoveries. My suggestion would be to try again. Load the files again from tape, but allow recovery when the database comes up. Since the database was shutdown abort, Oracle will want to automatically recover the database when it tries to start. The recovery information is probably in the redo logs (good reason to back them up). Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 5:19 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Here's the scenario - A backup was done of a database that had been shutdown with the abort option. The redo logs (no archiving) are also backed up. The controlfiles have since been lost. Business request - Retrieve a schema that has since been dropped from the database. Attempted solution - restore the backups, open the db without performing recovery (resetlogs and readonly corruption allowed). Unfortunately, this resulted in an ORA-00600 when it attempted to read the SYSTEM datafile. Does anyone have any ideas of how to open this db so we can get the data out of the schema? We don't care if it is not consistent. All assistance is appreciated. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Fink, Dan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Steve Perry INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Recover an unrecoverable database
Steve, no one will ever have a copy of data unloader because Oracle does not sell IT but sells the service of running it for you. It's not urban legend, I've used it. It's from Field Support, not Tech Support, it's expensive as all getout and they are reluctant to use it. It will generate either dump files that import can read or flat files that sqlldr can read, It helps if you have the SYSTEM tablespace, but it is not essential. I would not suggest even trying to get Oracle to come in with this unless the data is so critical that you will lose enormous amounts of money if you don't use it (yes, it was for us) Dan, if you want more info on it, email me offline. Rachel --- Steve Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you can't recover it, Oracle has, or had, a utility called DUL (Data UnLoader ???) that will read the datafiles and create files usable by sqlldr. I haven't used it, but I heard about it several times. It's still urban legend until I get a copy :) Anybody have a copy I can borrow for AIX or NT??? Steve - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 5:54 PM I have a colleague working the 'Official' approach with Oracle support. I am not certain what he will learn nor how quickly, so I'm taking the shotgun approach. Dan -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 3:26 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Dan - May be a good Oracle Support question. I've had pretty good luck with them on really challenging recoveries. My suggestion would be to try again. Load the files again from tape, but allow recovery when the database comes up. Since the database was shutdown abort, Oracle will want to automatically recover the database when it tries to start. The recovery information is probably in the redo logs (good reason to back them up). Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 5:19 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Here's the scenario - A backup was done of a database that had been shutdown with the abort option. The redo logs (no archiving) are also backed up. The controlfiles have since been lost. Business request - Retrieve a schema that has since been dropped from the database. Attempted solution - restore the backups, open the db without performing recovery (resetlogs and readonly corruption allowed). Unfortunately, this resulted in an ORA-00600 when it attempted to read the SYSTEM datafile. Does anyone have any ideas of how to open this db so we can get the data out of the schema? We don't care if it is not consistent. All assistance is appreciated. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Fink, Dan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Steve Perry INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other
Re: Recover an unrecoverable database
no urban legend as Rachel has had to use it, the catch is they come in, load the software, do the unloading and remove it before they leave. oh and its EXPENSIVE. joe Steve Perry wrote: If you can't recover it, Oracle has, or had, a utility called DUL (Data UnLoader ???) that will read the datafiles and create files usable by sqlldr. I haven't used it, but I heard about it several times. It's still urban legend until I get a copy :) Anybody have a copy I can borrow for AIX or NT??? Steve - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 5:54 PM I have a colleague working the 'Official' approach with Oracle support. I am not certain what he will learn nor how quickly, so I'm taking the shotgun approach. Dan -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 3:26 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Dan - May be a good Oracle Support question. I've had pretty good luck with them on really challenging recoveries. My suggestion would be to try again. Load the files again from tape, but allow recovery when the database comes up. Since the database was shutdown abort, Oracle will want to automatically recover the database when it tries to start. The recovery information is probably in the redo logs (good reason to back them up). Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 5:19 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Here's the scenario - A backup was done of a database that had been shutdown with the abort option. The redo logs (no archiving) are also backed up. The controlfiles have since been lost. Business request - Retrieve a schema that has since been dropped from the database. Attempted solution - restore the backups, open the db without performing recovery (resetlogs and readonly corruption allowed). Unfortunately, this resulted in an ORA-00600 when it attempted to read the SYSTEM datafile. Does anyone have any ideas of how to open this db so we can get the data out of the schema? We don't care if it is not consistent. All assistance is appreciated. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Fink, Dan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Joe Testa INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Recover an unrecoverable database
Correct me if I am wrong, I don't think anybody has a copy. Oracle will run it for you and bill you for it. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 8:53 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L If you can't recover it, Oracle has, or had, a utility called DUL (Data UnLoader ???) that will read the datafiles and create files usable by sqlldr. I haven't used it, but I heard about it several times. It's still urban legend until I get a copy :) Anybody have a copy I can borrow for AIX or NT??? Steve - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 5:54 PM I have a colleague working the 'Official' approach with Oracle support. I am not certain what he will learn nor how quickly, so I'm taking the shotgun approach. Dan -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 3:26 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Dan - May be a good Oracle Support question. I've had pretty good luck with them on really challenging recoveries. My suggestion would be to try again. Load the files again from tape, but allow recovery when the database comes up. Since the database was shutdown abort, Oracle will want to automatically recover the database when it tries to start. The recovery information is probably in the redo logs (good reason to back them up). Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 5:19 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Here's the scenario - A backup was done of a database that had been shutdown with the abort option. The redo logs (no archiving) are also backed up. The controlfiles have since been lost. Business request - Retrieve a schema that has since been dropped from the database. Attempted solution - restore the backups, open the db without performing recovery (resetlogs and readonly corruption allowed). Unfortunately, this resulted in an ORA-00600 when it attempted to read the SYSTEM datafile. Does anyone have any ideas of how to open this db so we can get the data out of the schema? We don't care if it is not consistent. All assistance is appreciated. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Fink, Dan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Steve Perry INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ji, Richard INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
