I have a book devoted to PostgresSQL at home. When I come home, I'll
post the information.
O'Reilly has Practical Postgresql, the full text of which is also available
online: http://www.commandprompt.com/ppbook/
I know there are a couple of others floating around as well.
But you're
]: Oracle vs
Mysql
At 03:29 PM 1/20/2004, you wrote:
I do indeed. Rumor was that rpt/rpf was written by
Larry himself.
Now I understand! I once applied for a job at Oracle, and got asked: What do
you think about RPT/RPF. My answer: Probably som hobby-project of one or
another developer, which
yup
Dick GouletSenior Oracle DBAOracle Certified 8i
DBA
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Re: Re[2]: Oracle vs MysqlAt 03:29 PM 1/20/2004, you
wrote:
On 2004.01.19 23:39, Jonathan Gennick wrote:
I used to use a SQL Module compiler. Not with Oracle though.
It's rare for me to run into someone else who likes that
approach. Actually, it's rare for me to encounter someone
who's even heard of it...
Jonathan, I've been around for a long time.
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Jonathan, I've been around for a long time. I've seen things like
DataLens for Lotus123, SQL*Calc, Easy*SQL, then there was an Oracle
Beat ya: Oracle Add-In for Lotus 123.
Using Ora*Net (Async), V4.1.4.
1987. And demoed to the press that same year.
g,dr
for different Operating Systems, is this true? Is it true with UDB?
From: Mladen Gogala [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2004/01/19 Mon PM 11:04:26 EST
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Oracle vs Mysql
It needs not to have the same capabilities, it needs to have
Mladen Gogala scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:
On 2004.01.19 23:39, Jonathan Gennick wrote:
I used to use a SQL Module compiler. Not with Oracle though.
It's rare for me to run into someone else who likes that
approach. Actually, it's rare for me to encounter someone
who's even
Ahhh.
Sql*Calc, Sql*Graph, Sqr EasySqr. Those were the good old days.
Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional
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Mladen Gogala scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:
On
Well, PostGreSql has all of those features, but handling 100GB? Not sure not sure
I'd trust it that far.
Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA
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I think he is talking
AMEN!!
Dick GouletSenior Oracle DBAOracle Certified 8i
DBA
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PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE:
Oracle vs MysqlIf MySQL
comes to have the same
Then here's a rare treat for you! I *loved* SQL mods in RDB. I could make
a program in MACRO, BASIC, FORTRAN, BLISS, Ada, DIBOL, or Mladen's favorite
COBOL, and could effortlessly have them do DB work. I also didn't have to
hunt thru all the source for a single SQL statement since they were in
Do you remember IBM System 3/10? RPGII flat files? 120 col. punch cards?
No hard drives?
My $0.02 worth,
Ken Janusz, CPIM
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Careful Mladen, your revealing your
The RPT RPF Oracle class was what made me go looking very quickly for a
batch Oracle tool. Then I found SQR. (This was all before PL/SQL and the
current versions of Oracle Reports). We bought it and the rest was history.
Why Oracle didn't buy SQR when they had a chance amazes me.
Tom
Title: Message
Most
people only use a fraction of Oracle's featuresand some are deceived
bythe Oracle Marketeerswho tell themthatthey NEED them
all. Maybe the 80/20 rule also applies to technology purchases... Especially
when the cost differential is huge.
My 4X4
pickup works just fine
I've got my GX21-9129-9 right here in front of me. It should be in a
museum...
I'll take Obscure Geek References for $800, Alex.
Rich
Rich JesseSystem/Database Administrator
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I do indeed. Rumor was that rpt/rpf was written by Larry himself.
On 01/20/2004 09:39:34 AM, Goulet, Dick wrote:
Careful Mladen, your revealing your age!! Bet you remember RPT
RPF
as well!!
Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA
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On 01/20/2004 08:04:33 AM, Thater, William wrote:
Mladen Gogala scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:
oh damn, have we been at this too long?;-)
Yes, we probably have. I must say that the spirit of Oracle Corp.
has changed significantly since the days of Geoff Squire, Chris Ellis,
Richard
Probably because they were dropping RPT RPF SQR smells a lot like it, YUCK!
Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA
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The RPT RPF Oracle class was what made me go
[snip]
120 col. punch cards?
You had a high-density model. Mine only had 80 cols, of which 72 were usable for my
goto-happy Fortran statements.
SF
No hard drives?
My $0.02 worth,
Ken Janusz, CPIM
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Sounds like the old Oracle vs. Ingress battles. Oracle won because it was
better at marketing. All detailed in the book The Difference Between God
and Larry Ellison. I can see
Careful Mladen, your revealing your age!! Bet you remember RPT RPF as well!!
Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA
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On 2004.01.19 23:39, Jonathan Gennick wrote:
I
On 01/20/2004 10:09:34 AM, KENNETH JANUSZ wrote:
Do you remember IBM System 3/10? RPGII flat files? 120 col. punch
cards?
No hard drives?
My $0.02 worth,
Ken Janusz, CPIM
I've never done anything with System/3. My first IBM was 3084
with MVS and IMS, running on 8M RAM. After an upgrade, it was
a
Tuesday, January 20, 2004, 9:19:44 AM, Goulet, Dick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
GD Well, PostGreSql has all of those features, but handling 100GB? Not sure not
sure I'd trust
GD it that far.
You know, I talked to someone at last year's MySQL
conference who was using MySQL to manage three
RPT was great stuff. In addition to SELECT statements it could do full
DML, DDL, and DCL (I think.) Like Unix it was just particular on who it
was friendly with. :-) Then there was RPT2C. Now there's perl.
Eschewing the pointy-clicky stuff.
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Tuesday, January 20, 2004, 9:34:25 AM, Jesse, Rich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
JR Then here's a rare treat for you! I *loved* SQL mods in RDB. I could make
JR a program in MACRO, BASIC, FORTRAN, BLISS, Ada, DIBOL, or Mladen's favorite
JR COBOL, and could effortlessly have them do DB work.
Yep!
On 01/20/2004 09:19:44 AM, Goulet, Dick wrote:
Well, PostGreSql has all of those features, but handling 100GB? Not
sure not sure I'd trust it that far.
Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA
Given the price, I believe that some testing would be warranted, don't
you think?
--
Inprocess actually.
Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA
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On 01/20/2004 09:19:44 AM, Goulet, Dick wrote:
Well, PostGreSql has all of those features, but handling 100GB?
YES!
Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA
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Do you remember IBM System 3/10? RPGII flat files? 120 col. punch cards?
No hard drives?
My $0.02 worth,
Ken Janusz, CPIM
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004, eric king wrote:
I think he is talking about 100GB database. Can PostgreSQL and MySQL handle
that size? We used MySQL in some of the web projects, but it just stores
small set of operational data and later on those data are moved to Oracle as
a permenant store. For small
The old IBM System3 machines used 120 col. punch cards. And initially they
had no HD's. Everything was done with cards and a reader/sorter. To
compile a program you took the code you wrote, punched it into cards and
then put it behind a stack of cards that was the compiler. The machine read
Tuesday, January 20, 2004, 12:44:43 PM, Daniel Hanks ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
DH nd to be fair, MySQL _does_ offer foreign key constraints (it used to not,
though), but only
DH (iirc) if you use the 'Innodb' table type.
My experience recently was just the opposite. I could create
foreign key
Back to MySQL and whether Postgres is the way to go,
I can recall editorials debating whether Unix/Oracle would ever be
industrial strength enough to support critical applications.
The point the book The Difference Between God and Larry Ellison tries to
make is that the technically superior
Huh???!?? What did you search for? I get many hits searching for
postgresql.
Rich
Rich JesseSystem/Database Administrator
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA
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On 01/20/2004 01:29:25 PM, DENNIS WILLIAMS wrote:
Back to MySQL and whether Postgres is the way to go,
I can recall editorials debating whether Unix/Oracle would ever be
industrial strength enough to support critical applications.
The point the book The Difference Between God and Larry Ellison
Tuesday, January 20, 2004, 1:29:25 PM, DENNIS WILLIAMS ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
DW I can recall editorials debating whether Unix/Oracle would ever be
DW industrial strength enough to support critical applications.
I admit to not being involved in databases that far back,
but I've read enough to
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Mladen Gogala wrote:
I have a book devoted to PostgresSQL at home. When I come home, I'll
post the information.
O'Reilly has Practical Postgresql, the full text of which is also available online:
http://www.commandprompt.com/ppbook/
I know there are a couple of others
What RPT and RPF exactly are? Are they some sort of reporting tool?
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RPT was great stuff. In addition to SELECT statements it could do full
DML, DDL, and DCL (I
Hence why Sql*Server is out there.
Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA
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Back to MySQL and whether Postgres is the way to go,
I can recall editorials debating whether
Jonathan,
The only reason MySql is known better is that big mouth equal to Bill Gates
in Finland. Otherwise PostGreSql is the much better product.
Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA
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Yupp. RPF=report formatter or some such.
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eric king
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What RPT and RPF exactly are? Are they some sort of reporting tool?
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Eric,
They were the precusors to Oracle reports. RPT was the report extraction
tool, and RPF was the report formatter.
Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA
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But, unless you have old diskettes... you'll never see them. They died with
the demise of v5.
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Yupp. RPF=report formatter or some such.
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eric king
Sent:
On 01/20/2004 03:29:33 PM, Goulet, Dick wrote:
Jonathan,
The only reason MySql is known better is that big mouth
equal to Bill Gates in Finland. Otherwise PostGreSql is the much
better product.
Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA
Dick, when you are talking about big
I know I used to set up RPT and do all sorts of complex updating things. At the State
and with things coming from mainframes, the data organization seemed to lend itself
well to RPT.
Since the organization was like of loops within loops, I could take the high order
update and then loop through
Dick, when you are talking about big mouth from Finland, you probably
don't refer to Pamela Anderson, also from Finland? The other person
from Finland, whom I will not mention except by the first name (Linus)
should be given credit for a wonderful OS that is successfully breaking
the MS
If Mr Torvalds needs a security blanket, I'd be happy to send him several. Yes he
crafted a wonderful OS I sincerely hope he knocks Billy Gates down to size. Seems
to be doing one heck of a job at it, even with SCO on MicroSlop's side. MS Anderson
appears headed for the twilight, thank GOD.
Rich
Amazon - Enter MySQL - 412 hits. The first screen of books are nearly all
devoted to MySQL.
Enter Postgres - 94 hits. None of the books on the first screen seem to
be devoted to Postgres, but just mention it incidentally.
Google - Enter MySQL - 15.6 million hits. Postgres -
Ahh. Re-read my post. The proper name of the product is postgresql and
not postgres. You should find 112 hits on books...
HTH! :)
Rich
Rich JesseSystem/Database Administrator
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA
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if Oracle is offshoring its develeoping of its database,
everyone
At 03:29 PM 1/20/2004, you wrote:
I do indeed. Rumor was that rpt/rpf
was written by Larry himself.
Now I understand! I once applied for a job at Oracle, and got asked: What
do you think about RPT/RPF. My answer: Probably som hobby-project of one
or another developer, which, after demonstration
I think he is talking about 100GB database. Can PostgreSQL and MySQL handle
that size? We used MySQL in some of the web projects, but it just stores
small set of operational data and later on those data are moved to Oracle as
a permenant store. For small set of data, MySQL is quite good, but it
Ryan,
It's postgres.org. I'm not sure how they generate the operating revenue they
need, but that's why they are not advertising like MySql AB is.
Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA
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To: Multiple
Sounds like the old Oracle vs. Ingress battles. Oracle won because it was
better at marketing. All detailed in the book The Difference Between God
and Larry Ellison. I can see it now -- MySQL, the Oracle of the free
databases.
Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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Sounds like the old Oracle vs. Ingress battles. Oracle won because it was
better at marketing. All detailed in the book The Difference Between God
and Larry Ellison. I can see
that matters.
Jared
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Sounds like
DENNIS WILLIAMS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sounds like the old Oracle vs. Ingress battles. Oracle won because it
was
better at marketing. All detailed in the book The Difference Between
God
and Larry Ellison. I can see it now -- MySQL, the Oracle of the free
Bzzzt. Oracle won because it
Monday, January 19, 2004, 11:04:26 PM, Mladen Gogala ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
MG A good compiler support
MG with something similar to long extinct SQL*Module (originally an IBM technology)
I used to use a SQL Module compiler. Not with Oracle though.
It's rare for me to run into someone else who
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Sounds like the old Oracle vs. Ingress battles. Oracle
can't beat them, join them...
:)
Cheers
Nuno Souto
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Hi,
I've been asked by management to explore the pros and cons of Mysql vs Oracle. The
database in question will be a web
based text and multimedia retrieval
On 01/14/2004 04:49:52 PM, Jesse, Rich wrote:
Expect to pay about the same for PostgreSQL support as you would for Oracle.
15% of the purchase price/year?
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Hi,
I've been asked by management to explore the pros and cons of
Mysqlvs Oracle. The database in question will be a web based text and
multimedia retrieval system. The size will be around 100 Gb.Can
someonelet me know the advantages of Oracle over Mysql or the problems we
can face
If you have the choice, look at PostgreSQL in addition to MySQL. From what
I've seen, it's more mature than MySQL.
My $.02,
Rich
Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA
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On 01/14/2004 12:44:25 PM, Jesse, Rich wrote:
If you have the choice, look at PostgreSQL in addition to MySQL. From what
I've seen, it's more mature than MySQL.
I second that. PostgresSQL supports transactions and uses perl as its
scripting language. From what little I read and saw (just a
what is DBI?
is postgre free? Is it like linux where you pay for support? I cant find any
licensing info on the website. Most shops dont need oracle, sql server,
sybase, or DB2.
Most applications are small. I was on a project where the government had an
Oracle EE license on windows. They didnt
1) DBI is a perl module to handle the communication with various databases.
2) Postgres is free. I believe that you can buy commercial support, but I don't know
where. May be Rich can jump in with that.
3) DBI is free and so is perl. I'm cheap easy, but not free.
On 01/14/2004 02:34:52 PM,
DBI is an extension to perl language which can then be used by perl to talk with
various databases. DBI stands for database interface. With DBI you also have to
load in a specific database driver which is called DBD. For instance for oracle you
have to install DBI and DBD::Oracle. Its really
I don't think MySQL is free for commercial application, for dev and test
purpose it is free.
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DBI is an extension to perl language which can then be used by perl to
I'm suspicious about using MySQL or Postgres with a database 100 gigabytes
in size.
(Especially, when their main website appeared to be down when I wanted to
check some of their recent references).
Anyway, if you have availability requirements which don't allow you to take
down your system for
i thought postgre was a for profit company? how do they generate revenues?
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1) DBI is a perl module to handle the communication with various
databases.
2) Postgres
There is a commercial arm of PostgreSQL (or at least a partner) for
businesses that require support. Surf on over to:
http://www.pgsql.com
Expect to pay about the same for PostgreSQL support as you would for Oracle.
I don't know of any support for DBI other than the Perl DBI mailing list
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i thought postgre was a for profit company? how do they
generate revenues?
Don't
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Hi,
I've been asked by management to explore the pros and cons
of Mysqlvs Oracle. The database in question will be a web based text and
multimedia retrieval system. The size will be around 100
:)
Thanks!
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Hi, Ross,
I've got some experience with both
1. You dont have transaction (until the very recent versions, at least)
2. You dont have fererential integrity (FK is declared
I think, you can design an application that aware of those non rollback tech
things and reverse the contain back properly, quite a lot of work need to be
done here.
regards,
Sinardy
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The comparisons look good for MySQL...
not bad for others, but better for
mySQL than some comments by some
folks on the list would have led me
to believe.
Anyone here have major gripes about
mySQL that oracle solved?
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You can't do subqueries in mySQL
You can't use derived tables in mySQL
The foreign key support is defined as not being Full, don't know what that
means.
Dave
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The comparisons look good
AFAIK on big thing 'missing' in mySQL is that it
has no journalling (transaction logging) capabilities.
So there's no transaction mgt.. rollbacks...etc..
if things bozo in the middle of a process.. you're dead.
Restore from last backup and hope for the best.
So you wouldn't want to use
Hi, Ross,
I've got some experience with both
1. You dont have transaction (until the very recent versions, at least)
2. You dont have fererential integrity (FK is declared but not enforced)
3. Dont have views
4. Noting like PL/SQL
5. Reader blocks writer
6. Weak type support, for example can put
Yeah, how about basic transaction support? Table locking is a problem when
the database/web site starts to experience a modest number of hits. We
migrate customers from MySQL to Oracle when there are performance problems
and they instantly disappear with Oracle.
MySQL is not ANSI SQL compliant
Certain things don't need transactions.
Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes.
Christopher R. Spence OCP MCSE MCP A+ RAPTOR CNA
Oracle DBA
Phone: (978) 322-5744
Fax:(707) 885-2275
www.mysqlsucks.com
mySQL is great for some things, not so great for other things. For what it
is, it is great in general.
I am not one to praise one and bash all the others, but I don't think mySQL
is the best for everything, let alone Oracle the same.
Do not criticize someone until you
Title: RE: Oracle vs. MySQL
- provides master-slave replication only. only 1 master, but i think up to 1000 slaves.
- uses only one port for transactions, so you can easily flood that port if you have large emounts of data
- no referencial integrity. that all has to be built into your product
True, but how can they(MySQL guys) call it a RDBMS if they don't
support transaction? Isn't the ACID is what the RDBMS is all about?
Richard Ji
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Certain things don't need transactions.
Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that
Anyone here have major gripes about
mySQL that oracle solved?
I would not dream of developing without foreign keys/referential
integrity. Oracle catches many of my programming mistakes as
constraint errors before they mess things up and waste a lot of time.
I don't get many constraint errors
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