RE: Development vs. Production DBA

2003-11-21 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
LOL -- developers deciding architecture design. Never really involved in implementing anything, all conceptual. I am what you call a production DBA, my personal bias on this is that leaving architecture decisions to developers could be a mistake, if you think long term. The Production DBA

Re: RE: Development vs. Production DBA

2003-11-21 Thread ryan_oracle
] Subject: RE: Development vs. Production DBA LOL -- developers deciding architecture design. Never really involved in implementing anything, all conceptual. I am what you call a production DBA, my personal bias on this is that leaving architecture decisions to developers could be a mistake

RE: RE: Development vs. Production DBA

2003-11-21 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
] Date: 2003/11/21 Fri AM 07:12:13 EST To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Development vs. Production DBA LOL -- developers deciding architecture design. Never really involved in implementing anything, all conceptual. I am what you call a production DBA

RE: RE: Development vs. Production DBA

2003-11-21 Thread Goulet, Dick
: Development vs. Production DBA LOL -- developers deciding architecture design. Never really involved in implementing anything, all conceptual. I am what you call a production DBA, my personal bias on this is that leaving architecture decisions to developers could be a mistake, if you think long term

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2003-11-21 Thread Thomas Day
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2003-11-21 Thread April Wells
Title: RE: RE: Development vs. Production DBA But if you make them stored procedures, you might be giving up some vestige of control. CAN'T give up control... April Wells Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA Corporate Systems Amarillo Texas /\ / \ / \ \ / \/ \ \ \ \ Few people really enjoy

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2003-11-21 Thread ryan_oracle
of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: RE: Development vs. Production DBA But if you make them stored procedures, you might be giving up some vestige of control. CAN'T give up control... April Wells Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA Corporate Systems Amarillo Texas

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2003-11-21 Thread Davey, Alan
Title: RE: RE: Development vs. Production DBA Just don't grant execute. ;-) - Alan Davey Senior Analyst/Project Leader Oracle 9i OCA; 3/4 OCP w) 973.267.5990 x458 w) 212.295.3458 -Original Message-From: April Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Development vs. Production DBA

2003-11-19 Thread Todd Boss
I don't know about a paper, but I've always made a distinction between these types of DBAs as well. Development DBA responsibilities: - initial DB design - data modelling, data dictionary creation - naming standards, datatype standards - sql development - working w/ front end developers, tuning

RE: Development vs. Production DBA

2003-11-19 Thread Stephane Faroult
George, Early involvement and advice are certainly in my view essential to the success of a project. However, concerning the creation of packages, etc. I fear I don't share your views. Involvement is justified if it adds value. If it's just adding another layer of red tape, forget about it.

RE: Development vs. Production DBA

2003-11-19 Thread Odland, Brad
Agree with Stephane on this. Finding a balance of productivity, trust and security would be the goal... -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 10:55 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L George, Early involvement and advice are certainly in my view essential to

RE: Development vs. Production DBA

2003-11-19 Thread Jared . Still
recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Development vs. Production DBA George, Early involvement and advice are certainly in my view essential to the success of a project. However, concerning the creation of packages, etc. I fear I don't share your views

RE: Development vs. Production DBA

2003-11-19 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
George - The earlier discussion was What is a Production DBA, and I found the links by Googling Oracle-l production dba. Excellent topic. Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 10:20 AM To: Multiple recipients of list

RE: Development vs. Production DBA

2003-11-19 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
As I moved from development to DBA, I am trying to keep up with pl/sql ... it is FUN !! Raj Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com All Views expressed in this email are strictly personal. QOTD: Any clod

Re: RE: Development vs. Production DBA

2003-11-19 Thread ryan_oracle
EST To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Development vs. Production DBA I will ditto Stephane's and Brad's opinions on this. If the DBA is a competent PL/SQL developer, then sure. If not, then don't try to write the PL/SQL. Being a competent PL/SQL

RE: Development vs. Production DBA

2003-11-19 Thread Niall Litchfield
Jared writes Being a competent PL/SQL developer is *much* more difficult than it was a few years ago. I can write PL/SQL all day if I can stick with stuff that is 5+ years old. :) A job with an ERP vendor awaits Niall -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: